The Bard Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 That's been coming. I worry about this game... It's good to bed new players in, BUT, you should do it with enough nous to help the younger players. Only Cahill has that nous.... everyone else is young with little experience of international success. As Tyldesley has said a load of their lot won the 2013 under 20 World Cup and they look like they know what they're doing together. Get Lallana on in midfield.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Just now, Rudolf Hucker said: Ill never understand why Umtiti decided to go to Barcelona instead of to us. I blame Ashton and LJ. Wrong DNA apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Good save that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Just now, The Bard said: That's been coming. I worry about this game... It's good to bed new players in, BUT, you should do it with enough nous to help the younger players. Only Cahill has that nous.... everyone else is young with little experience of international success. As Tyldesley has said a load of their lot won the 2013 under 20 World Cup and they look like they know what they're doing together. Get Lallana on in midfield.... I honestly don't think any of the last few England managers know there strongest team. Granted Southgate is new . But it constantly changes so much. Qualifiers or friendlies . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 We've woken up again. I like Bertrand - he's got to be at a Champions League club next season. Would like to see him tried in the Derrick Williams position, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_unreliant Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Watch how often England try to play out from the back, pass it round and round then back to Heaton who in the end wallops it up and gives it away. It happens match after match with England. France on the other hand can keep the ball and work their way up the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Unlucky there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 I really don't understand why commentators continue to blow smoke up the arse of John Stones. To me he always seems to have a mistake in him yet tonight the commentator remarked about "the consummate defending of John Stones...". Am I missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 He might pop up with the odd goal but if he doesnt score you would never know Dele Alli was on the pitch I just dont get the hype with him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Just now, robin_unreliant said: Watch how often England try to play out from the back, pass it round a nd round then back to Heaton who in the end wallops it up and gives it away. It happens match after match with England. France on the other hand can keep the ball and work their way up the pitch. Absolutely. That's why I would like Bertrand tried in a back 3 with a more attacking player at LWB. Just like us with DW and JB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Just now, Rudolf Hucker said: I really don't understand why commentators continue to blow smoke up the arse of John Stones. To me he always seems to have a mistake in him yet tonight the commentator remarked about "the consummate defending of John Stones...". Am I missing something? And literally as he said it he gave the ball away.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yardy Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Everything the Ox has tried tonight he has failed, one of the worst 45mins i have seen from a England player in recent years. I would rather Marlon Pack in centre mid than the ox... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Just noticed they have Kante in midfield. So they have Kante + Pogba vs Ox +Dire. That's going to tell.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Just now, yardy said: Everything the Ox has tried tonight he has failed, one of the worst 45mins i have seen from a England player in recent years. I would rather Marlon Pack in centre mid than the ox... For me the ox is a wide player. I know he's played central for Arsenal. But player with his pace and ability to beat a man. Stick him out wide . Like Saturday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Ed Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Just now, yardy said: Everything the Ox has tried tonight he has failed, one of the worst 45mins i have seen from a England player in recent years. I would rather Marlon Pack in centre mid than the ox... He must have one of the lowest pass completion % stats ever in this half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yardy Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Just now, Red Army 75 said: For me the ox is a wide player. I know he's played central for Arsenal. But player with his pace and ability to beat a man. Stick him out wide . Like Saturday Yes without doubt he is a wide player, he's nearly cost us a couple of goals tonight with sloppy passes and being out of position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yardy Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Just now, Mr Ed said: He must have one of the lowest pass completion % stats ever in this half. Would be nice to find out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Heaton unlucky again there. Piss poor defending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Not surprised. Unlucky Heaton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said: For me the ox is a wide player. I know he's played central for Arsenal. But player with his pace and ability to beat a man. Stick him out wide . Like Saturday Sees himself as a central midfielder - been shocking tonight Impressed with Kane's all round game The French have some young side - turning us inside out at the back For me Stones isn't a centre back - I'd be developing him in Diers position holding in front of back three / four Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Stones missed his tackle for the second goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Powder puff defence. Was that John Stones on the post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Ha ha Sterling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 We need to hook Alli for Lallana at half time. Get some leadership on the pitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 1 minute ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Sees himself as a central midfielder - been shocking tonight Impressed with Kane's all round game The French have some young side - turning us inside out at the back For me Stones isn't a centre back - I'd be developing him in Diers position holding in front of back three / four Kane been our best player. Very strong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yardy Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Pretty depressing to think we couldn't win a major international trophy (or even get close) with the golden generation and now we have this lot.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Just now, The Bard said: We need to hook Alli for Lallana at half time. Get some leadership on the pitch Leadership from Lalana ?????? Id suggest it's Ox that needs hooking not Ali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Sees himself as a central midfielder - been shocking tonight Impressed with Kane's all round game The French have some young side - turning us inside out at the back For me Stones isn't a centre back - I'd be developing him in Diers position holding in front of back three / four His only progression is towards the Championship. Needs to be left out until he shows some kind of defensive quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Just now, BobBobSuperBob said: For me Stones isn't a centre back - I'd be developing him in Diers position holding in front of back four I'd be developing him in a commissioner's position, holding open the front or back door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Just now, Rudolf Hucker said: Stones missed his tackle for the second goal. You answers my question Rudolf. To be fair it's on but I'm not really watching it. I've said it before, I'll say it again. If Stones is worth £50m, Flint must be worth at least that again. I honestly can't see how he's any better than your average championship, maybe league 1 defender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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