BS4 on Tour... Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 ....sacked. 8th place finish in Premier League and League Cup Final runners up. What exactly does the Southampton FC board expect? That sounds like a fantastic season to me.....do they really demand more than that?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eardun Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 12 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: ....sacked. 8th place finish in Premier League and League Cup Final runners up. What exactly does the Southampton FC board expect? That sounds like a fantastic season to me.....do they really demand more than that?! Expect goals is what a Saints fan told me. Only scored in 1 of last 7 matches at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 Lack of entertainment and rumours of fallouts with various players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted June 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 Just now, Northern Red said: Lack of entertainment and rumours of fallouts with various players. 8th best team in England - not enough?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaverface Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 47 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: ....sacked. 8th place finish in Premier League and League Cup Final runners up. What exactly does the Southampton FC board expect? That sounds like a fantastic season to me.....do they really demand more than that?! Personally I'm with you - unbelievable really. However playing devils advocate, didn't they sack Nigel Adkins and bring in Pochettino straight after Adkins got them promotion? Sometimes it takes bottle to push on, and not stick with managers for sentimental reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 From what I read it was more to do with the manager than the results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: 8th best team in England - not enough?! Evidently not! But then if they'd finished 16th but been more entertaining, I doubt they'd have been happy either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted June 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 6 minutes ago, beaverface said: Personally I'm with you - unbelievable really. However playing devils advocate, didn't they sack Nigel Adkins and bring in Pochettino straight after Adkins got them promotion? Sometimes it takes bottle to push on, and not stick with managers for sentimental reasons. No, Adkins wasn't sacked until January 2013 - so not 'straight after Adkins got them promotion' - they gave Nige nearly 6 months to give it a go.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 A lot of it is about entertainment for Saints fans. I agree with them. Why pay hundreds of pounds to watch defensive, dour football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipps69 Posted June 14, 2017 Report Share Posted June 14, 2017 Sadly it's becoming common place in England now, Watford have done similar & have done it for the last couple of seasons! It's hard to understand exactly what some clubs expect because it wasn't too long ago that both clubs were in The Championship and even lower in Southampton's case. And the trouble is that clubs & fans then wonder why managers & players don't show any sign of loyalty to their clubs!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 Job for Cotts ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanburyRed Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 6 hours ago, RedDave said: A lot of it is about entertainment for Saints fans. I agree with them. Why pay hundreds of pounds to watch defensive, dour football? Surely the board knew what they were getting with the (now ex) manager by watching him in his previous role @ Nice? No win in last 8, 1 goal in last 6 or 7 games. Not helped by loss to injury of Charlie Austin, good stadium, good crop of youngsters, good youth setup.....opportunity for someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpexile Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 44 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: Job for Cotts ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanker Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 32 minutes ago, BanburyRed said: Surely the board knew what they were getting with the (now ex) manager by watching him in his previous role @ Nice? No win in last 8, 1 goal in last 6 or 7 games. Not helped by loss to injury of Charlie Austin, good stadium, good crop of youngsters, good youth setup.....opportunity for someone. It won't be Lee Johnson, he'll be the next Arsenal manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 48 minutes ago, BanburyRed said: Surely the board knew what they were getting with the (now ex) manager by watching him in his previous role @ Nice? No win in last 8, 1 goal in last 6 or 7 games. Not helped by loss to injury of Charlie Austin, good stadium, good crop of youngsters, good youth setup.....opportunity for someone. Only if they can make a mediocre side top six overnight as apparently 8th best in the country isn't good enough. Madness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 15 minutes ago, bpexile said: Whoosh . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 Thomas Tuchel the ex-Dortmund manager is the early favourite. That would be some coup if they could get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myol'man Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 They'll be playing Pompey in the Championship within the next 5 years. Saints are a club with a very over inflated opinion of themselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 1 hour ago, BRISTOL86 said: Only if they can make a mediocre side top six overnight as apparently 8th best in the country isn't good enough. Madness. Are you willfully misreading explanations? It wasn't about finishing 8th, it was about style of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 Not overly surprised with this. Finished lower than the previous season, won less games, scored 18 goals less and finished with 17 less points. Whilst it would have been difficult to improve on the season under Koeman, I'm sure their board didn't expect that level of regression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 1 hour ago, BRISTOL86 said: Only if they can make a mediocre side top six overnight as apparently 8th best in the country isn't good enough. Madness. They finished 6th the season before under Koeman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 Go get him Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanburyRed Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 2 hours ago, BRISTOL86 said: Only if they can make a mediocre side top six overnight as apparently 8th best in the country isn't good enough. Madness. Exactly. Not sure what their expectations are but when they look at the teams above them, maybe with the exception of Everton (possibly), what do they expect? Delusional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reading Red UTC Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 Lots of neutrals are focusing on the position in the league. Note that they only finished 6 points ahead of 17th. If you compare with previous few seasons it is a step in the wrong direction. Combine that with, so I hear from a few Saints mates, really dull football (no goal at home in 540 mins) then this decision doesn't come as a surprise to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BanburyRed Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 7 minutes ago, Reading Red UTC said: Lots of neutrals are focusing on the position in the league. Note that they only finished 6 points ahead of 17th. If you compare with previous few seasons it is a step in the wrong direction. Combine that with, so I hear from a few Saints mates, really dull football (no goal at home in 540 mins) then this decision doesn't come as a surprise to me. Is this also not an indication of the Premier League being a mini league of 3? The top 6 or 7, then the 'middle' league, then the relegation fodder bottom 3 or 4. Saints finished top of that 'middle' league. Conversely, any manager between 8th and 17th should be fearing for their job. Pulis be warned for a negative boring style.... Like i said, it's about expectations. And what do Saints fans really expect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reading Red UTC Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, BanburyRed said: Is this also not an indication of the Premier League being a mini league of 3? The top 6 or 7, then the 'middle' league, then the relegation fodder bottom 3 or 4. Saints finished top of that 'middle' league. Conversely, any manager between 8th and 17th should be fearing for their job. Pulis be warned for a negative boring style.... Like i said, it's about expectations. And what do Saints fans really expect? You raise very good points. Saints are one of those teams in the "middle league" as you mentioned! These teams are quite aware that's it's unlikely that they'll win any silverware and, especially with saints, not be involved in a relegation battle. So entertainment factor becomes more important. The lack of that and as previously mentioned the decline in points tally have ultimately resulted in him losing his job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 Good decision by the sound of it. No club or set of fans should be content with negative, boring, low scoring football. The people's game is about entertainment - or at least the endeavour of it - whichever division you're in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 2 hours ago, Super said: Go get him Steve. Interesting to hear on talksport this morning they said that Southampton are looking for a new manager who will "buy in" to their long term project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipps69 Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 4 hours ago, Northern Red said: Thomas Tuchel the ex-Dortmund manager is the early favourite. That would be some coup if they could get him. Sky sources: Thomas Tuchel has ruled himself out of the Southampton job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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