Lrrr Posted July 18, 2017 Report Share Posted July 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Northern Red said: Ballance has broken a finger, likely out of the next Test. Probably a blessing in disguise. Talk of Stoneman, Westley or Malan replacing him. I'd go Malan personally, may only have been T20 but showed he had the ability at an international level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted July 18, 2017 Report Share Posted July 18, 2017 56 minutes ago, hodge said: Talk of Stoneman, Westley or Malan replacing him. I'd go Malan personally, may only have been T20 but showed he had the ability at an international level. Yeah I like Malan, looked the part in the T20 and has been consistently decent for a good few years now. Not seen anything of Westley but he seems to be highly rated. Stoneman has been on the fringes for a while now, I think he'll get the nod. Hameed is playing for Lancs 2nds to try and find some form as the CC is on a break for T20, got 110 today to go with 70-odd last week. No chance of him playing in the rest of this series as he'll need to get runs in the Championship to force his way back in but it wouldn't surprise me if he's in by the end of the summer, with a view to going to Australia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted July 19, 2017 Admin Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 14 hours ago, Northern Red said: Ballance has broken a finger, likely out of the next Test. Probably a blessing in disguise. Confirmed as out now What amazed me yesterday was it came to light the selecters don't actually go out and about watching any of the county games to see what players are playing like and on what sort of pitches they are playing . Selection is done from reading scores ON PAPER !! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted July 19, 2017 Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 11 minutes ago, phantom said: Confirmed as out now What amazed me yesterday was it came to light the selecters don't actually go out and about watching any of the county games to see what players are playing like and on what sort of pitches they are playing . Selection is done from reading scores ON PAPER !! It's mad isn't it? Somebody might get a big score but you can't tell from a scorecard what the bowling was like, how the pitch played, where they scored their runs. If they applied that policy back in the day then the likes of Trescothick and Vaughan would never have been picked as their domestic records were nothing special. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 19, 2017 Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 16 minutes ago, phantom said: Confirmed as out now What amazed me yesterday was it came to light the selecters don't actually go out and about watching any of the county games to see what players are playing like and on what sort of pitches they are playing . Selection is done from reading scores ON PAPER !! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted July 19, 2017 Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 So there has been a lot of talk about Englands batsmen not respecting test cricket. Is it not possible that they simply do not know how. Looking at the team from 10/11 ashes, there were a lot of batsmen I would have trusted to stand and play for several hours should they have needed to. The last Ashes down under really showed the naivety of not being able to leave a ball. We have Cook and Root who are good players, but are surrounded by players that I'm not sure know how to bat in a test, or adapt themselves to different pitches and scenarios. We seem to have a test side made up of players that'd be better suited to an easier or limited overs format where they can swing the bat more liberally at every ball. I'm starting to believe that we just are not that good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Looks like Westley is getting the nod with Malan also called up incase they want to play an extra batsman, Dawson retains his place in the squad despite being largely unspectacular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 The suggestion on the BBC is that Malan would bat at No.8 below Moeen, which seems unlikely. Suspect it's more likely he'd go in at 5 with everyone else dropping down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 At worst I think he'd bat below Bairstow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 I predict debut centuries before they forget how to bat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 4 hours ago, hodge said: Looks like Westley is getting the nod with Malan also called up incase they want to play an extra batsman, Dawson retains his place in the squad despite being largely unspectacular. Need to play the extra batsmen we don't need 6 bowlers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Super said: Need to play the extra batsmen we don't need 6 bowlers. I agree mate - if we need two spinners to tie up both ends just bowl Joe Root with Moeen. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmersonsRed Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 3 hours ago, Red Right Hand said: I agree mate - if we need two spinners to tie up both ends just bowl Joe Root with Moeen. Cook averages 7 as a spin bowler! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 1 minute ago, EmersonsRed said: Cook averages 7 as a spin bowler! Genuine all rounder our Alistair! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 How much do people think Root would bowl himself though? If he had decent faith in himself as an option would he have thought Dawson a necessity to start with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1ackbird Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 34 minutes ago, hodge said: How much do people think Root would bowl himself though? If he had decent faith in himself as an option would he have thought Dawson a necessity to start with? Dawson's a wired pick, welcome to the captaincy Joe... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 On 7/19/2017 at 11:20, Welcome To The Jungle said: So there has been a lot of talk about Englands batsmen not respecting test cricket. Is it not possible that they simply do not know how. Looking at the team from 10/11 ashes, there were a lot of batsmen I would have trusted to stand and play for several hours should they have needed to. The last Ashes down under really showed the naivety of not being able to leave a ball. We have Cook and Root who are good players, but are surrounded by players that I'm not sure know how to bat in a test, or adapt themselves to different pitches and scenarios. We seem to have a test side made up of players that'd be better suited to an easier or limited overs format where they can swing the bat more liberally at every ball. I'm starting to believe that we just are not that good. Leave the ball? The ball is there to be hit! It's the way I play.... Our 'TestTeam' has a number of excellent 'one day players', but is sadly lacking in the 'boring' necessities of Test Match cricket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted July 21, 2017 Report Share Posted July 21, 2017 9 hours ago, PHILINFRANCE said: Our 'TestTeam' has a number of excellent 'one day players', but is sadly lacking in the 'boring' necessities of Test Match cricket. Cook was left out of the one day side because it was felt he lacked the instincts to play aggressive shots. He took umbrage at that decision. No doubt that he's a top opening batsman tho but unfortunately he's the only one currently that can open. Trying to find someone to open with him is a real issue for England. From memory - Compton, Trott, Ballance and Jennings have all struggled in one way or another. There maybe others that I've forgotten as well. Any team will struggle if they find themselves 2 or 3 down before lunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted July 21, 2017 Report Share Posted July 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Robbored said: Cook was left out of the one day side because it was felt he lacked the instincts to play aggressive shots. He took umbrage at that decision. No doubt that he's a top opening batsman tho but unfortunately he's the only one currently that can open. Trying to find someone to open with him is a real issue for England. From memory - Compton, Trott, Ballance and Jennings have all struggled in one way or another. There maybe others that I've forgotten as well. Any team will struggle if they find themselves 2 or 3 down before lunch. Add Mike Carberry to that list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted July 21, 2017 Report Share Posted July 21, 2017 Robson, Lyth, Hales. There's loads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipps69 Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 With the rubbish weather that's due from today & all of the weekend, the draw has to be favourite for the 3rd test & at 3/1 with Sky Bet, it's well worth a bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 How is this guy still playing? Has proven in almost every innings he is not a test batsman! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Welcome To The Jungle said: How is this guy still playing? Has proven in almost every innings he is not a test batsman! He's a walking wicket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 7 minutes ago, Super said: He's a walking wicket. He did get out to a top, low catch. That said he should have left the delivery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 17 minutes ago, Robbored said: He did get out to a top, low catch. That said he should have left the delivery. Was a good catch but was just a matter of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 Just now, Super said: Was a good catch but was just a matter of time. Ha! 17 minutes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipps69 Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 Come on the rain, feel free to keep bringing them off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 Top Class Bowling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 Nice to see England digging in and battling for a change. Jennings is on borrowed time though, will probably get the next Test as it's only a week away, but will be out if he hasn't got a score by the end of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipps69 Posted July 27, 2017 Report Share Posted July 27, 2017 Happy with only 2/3 of a days play, keep that ratio up & that should be my bet in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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