reddogkev Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Based solely on his time with us last season, I'm highly dubious about whether he's decent enough for our team. He didn't impress me, but I accept he came half way during the campaign, had not played in England before, and clearly needed time to adapt. Any thoughts about how he might feature next season, and what might you expect from him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Think to get the best out of Hegeler, I think you would need either a central 3 in midfield or a back 3- he could certainly do a job in that instance. A 4-4-2? Probably not so much- though he would still be useful depth and versatility imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 I think he's pretty good tbf, definitely come on when we need to maintain the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Agreed that I don't think a 442 is ideal for him but I refuse to believe he's a bad player with the amount of Bundesliga appearances under his belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garland-sweden Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Think he will be good this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmersonsRed Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Fantastic passer, a good footballing brain (so many on here will dislike)!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Skin Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 14 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Think to get the best out of Hegeler, I think you would need either a central 3 in midfield or a back 3- he could certainly do a job in that instance. A 4-4-2? Probably not so much- though he would still be useful depth and versatility imo. Spot on, and he was still adjusting to the Championship. Reminds me of Seebok. Oozes class and has lots of time when possession. Hope we accommodate him, and he doesn't go the same way as Seebok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 27 minutes ago, reddogkev said: Based solely on his time with us last season, I'm highly dubious about whether he's decent enough for our team. He didn't impress me, but I accept he came half way during the campaign, had not played in England before, and clearly needed time to adapt. Any thoughts about how he might feature next season, and what might you expect from him? He is certainly good enough for us. Whether or not he fits into whatever system we focus on is the big question. Quality wise, he's one of the best members of our squad, but he certainly needs to do more to impact games. Big season for him coming up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brady bunch Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 For me he was top qaulity and I think he is a classy player, the problem was we lost quite a few of the games he played in. not sure how much it was related to him? I have high hopes for him this season, agree with much of what has already been said above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheddarReds Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Perhaps a good way to ease him in might be to chuck him in with Pack and Korey late on if we need more stability and a set of fresh legs wouldn't hurt? A couple who I go with have written him off but I still think there's a decent player in there somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 He looked a class player in his first match then, strangely, got worse with each match. He's played at a high level in Germany so he should be able to cope with the Championship. As to which position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jin Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 He played great as CB on his debut. Also liked him as a CM but then he wasn't really impacting games so much and as we all know, game time reduced. I'm really hoping he can show us what a good player he can be but that may depend on what formation we play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 He gave one of the worst performances I have seen against Fulham at home. I know many had bad games but he was on another level. shocked because he looked ok before that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 I'm amazed people are so positive about him. Apart from his first few matches in a back three (when he was no better than average), I thought he was dreadful every time he appeared. Slow, unable to win the ball, only playing the most straightforward of passes. He looked like a liability to me and I would have got rid of him in a heartbeat at the end of last season. But maybe he'll get better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Jury is still out for me. He looked excellent in his first couple of games and has experience of playing at a high level. On paper he is a quality player. However, I also agree with what others have said in that some games completely passed him by (Fulham at home springs to mind). Overall I think I expected more of him than what he has delivered so far. Hopefully with a good pre-season behind him he will step up next season and be a key player for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meh Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Not unless we are playing walking football - he is to urgency what Piers Morgan is to a listener. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 How much did we pay for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always Believesham Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 32 minutes ago, CityLew said: He played great as CB on his debut. Also liked him as a CM but then he wasn't really impacting games so much and as we all know, game time reduced. I'm really hoping he can show us what a good player he can be but that may depend on what formation we play? This was against Fleetwood in the cup, they were in form and we were in a rut but they were still in a division below I'm holding on to the hope that it took a bit of time for Wade Elliott to adapt and he turned out alright - Hegeler must have more to offer than what we have seen so far, he seems so slow to react sometimes it cannot be laziness it must be the way he plays That being said, he has shown good footwork under pressure at times but has covered over these with lethargic tackling and half hearted passing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redapple Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Reading at home he was dreadful. Fulham at home even worse. I think he was pretty poor against Cardiff as well but I got there late as forgot it was an early ko so I went for a run, which was more than he did before he was subbed off. Sell him . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Said this before, but when he first joined, I couldn't believe we were wasting a player who looked so comfortable on the ball at centre back & couldn't wait to see him in midfield. But once in midfield he was an absolute passenger & off the ball offered nothing. Might've been down to fitness but I'm not too sure. I wouldn't mind seeing him go back to centre back & competing with Flint/Wright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderbeans Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 He slowed our game down too much when we needed to attack faster on the break or even just in attacking phases. Would be better as a holding midfielder in a middle three or in a back three of maggs and wright if Flint is sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 LJ spoke about building a side around him, shortly after the season ended. I expect him to play a bigger part this coming season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 2 hours ago, redapple said: Reading at home he was dreadful. Fulham at home even worse. I think he was pretty poor against Cardiff as well but I got there late as forgot it was an early ko so I went for a run, which was more than he did before he was subbed off. Sell him . Funny that considering he didn't play in that game.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted June 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Interesting comments from all, consensus seems a mixed bag. Cheers for the responses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yardy Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Looks a quality footballer to me but i think the pace of the Championship took him by surprise, if he can adapt to it better this season he will be a big asset for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 5 hours ago, BRISTOL86 said: Agreed that I don't think a 442 is ideal for him but I refuse to believe he's a bad player with the amount of Bundesliga appearances under his belt. Gus Caesar Nicky Hunt Stern John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 2 hours ago, JamesBCFC said: LJ spoke about building a side around him, shortly after the season ended. I expect him to play a bigger part this coming season. Lee says a 'lot of things' James I wouldn't put too much weight on that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 42 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Gus Caesar Nicky Hunt Stern John I won't head a bad word against Stern John Seriously though think there's a good player in Hegeler. We were just in a mess at the time he came into the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londoner Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Outstanding against sheff wed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Cyril Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 At the risk of contributing to an interesting debate.... Should we choose the best system and pick the players around it.. ..or choose the best players and pick the system around them? Picking a system to accommodate the talented players would likely see more starting spots for Hegeler, Bryan, Tomlin and Magnussen.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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