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On ‎31‎/‎07‎/‎2017 at 21:55, BS4 on Tour... said:

Touchy when you get proved wrong...that's common, don't worry. Apologies if I missed out a word or two, but you have consistently posted on here words suggesting Celtic fans aren't political and don't get involved in violence....ten fines for political misbehaviour in five seasons and now the Sunderland incident make your words seem hollow....at least we let Rovers fans debate on here...pity your sad forum is so paranoid about 'them pesky 'teds' daring to indulge in similar banter and debate, so you just ban them....surely that's worse than being slightly mis-quoted on here?

ps - I hope your tinpot outfit get 'dicked' in every match .....and the comedy they consistently provide really does cheer up alot of people around here!

Can't be doing with people who doctor quotes. Suggests that they get their "news" from the Sun...

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On 8/5/2017 at 19:51, Esmond Million's Bung said:

Good news indeed.

Hopefully all the other wanchors in that film will now get sacked as well.

A mention of Lee's mother Lyn there as well. What the hell has she done to deserve the torment of this scum ?

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I don't doubt the good hearts and kind nature of the majority of Celtic fans, the problem is that both they and rangers are not clubs born of football, but politics sadly and this can never be escaped.

There is little hope for institutions of this nature.

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The fenians get what they deserve when they come to England. A club who's fans openly support the IRA and heap scorn on British soldiers are only ever going to endure hostility south of the border. Clubs who organise these friendlies must come to expect this.

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4 hours ago, SARJ said:

The fenians get what they deserve when they come to England. A club who's fans openly support the IRA and heap scorn on British soldiers are only ever going to endure hostility south of the border. Clubs who organise these friendlies must come to expect this.

I gave up with the whole Celtic/Rangers thing donkeys years ago. Both sides believe their own hype, their own justifications, and their own notoriety. Life is far too short. and is there to be enjoyed. If people wanna fight over a battle fought over 300 years ago (with no shortage of mercenary troops on both sides)..... I would suggest you looked to the future rather than stirring the hatred of the past

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4 hours ago, SARJ said:

The fenians get what they deserve when they come to England. A club who's fans openly support the IRA and heap scorn on British soldiers are only ever going to endure hostility south of the border. Clubs who organise these friendlies must come to expect this.

For you information, many thousands of these "fenians" have served in the British armed forces. We are a free country in part thanks to their sacrifice.

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21 minutes ago, RedZepperin said:

For you information, many thousands of these "fenians" have served in the British armed forces. We are a free country in part thanks to their sacrifice.

You keep avoiding that open celtic support of the Ira. The pro terrorist green brigade have been handed a part of the ground to spout their anti British racism and hate. no other club does similar.

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6 minutes ago, Trueredsupporte said:

You keep avoiding that open celtic support of the Ira. The pro terrorist green brigade have been handed a part of the ground to spout their anti British racism and hate. no other club does similar.

I think you're picking on the wrong poster.

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11 hours ago, Trueredsupporte said:

You keep avoiding that open celtic support of the Ira. The pro terrorist green brigade have been handed a part of the ground to spout their anti British racism and hate. no other club does similar.

I think this is the point to be honest. Whilst I can't get my head around why people down south travel to Belfast or Glasgow in support of Orangemen and/or Rangers if they have no family link to them, they are very much pro British.Celtic on the other hand, has a highly visible and it seems influential  anti British element. The many Celtic fans who consider themselves British and maybe fought in the services or have family who did, should give the likes of the Green Brigade the message to **** off back to Ireland.

Singing rebel songs from the 1920's is one thing. Celebrating the slaughter of Lee Rigby is on a different page all together.

For as long as the the pro IRA anti British bollox continues, the club will be hated by a lot of people south of the border who are actually indifferent to "the other" Glasgow club..

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12 hours ago, RedZepperin said:

For you information, many thousands of these "fenians" have served in the British armed forces. We are a free country in part thanks to their sacrifice.

Correct. Still doesn't change the fact that the majority of Celtic's support today still celebrates the IRA, militant Republicanism, deaths of British troops and offensive rebel songs.

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On ‎31‎/‎07‎/‎2017 at 22:18, Wanderingred said:

They just can't help themselves can they? I'd like nothing more than to see them go bust, just like Rangers did.

I am sorry to hear about Groundhoppers story. Hopefully the so called "fans" involved get banned from the stadium.. As for the lot making "contact" with FC Twente hooligans for a scrap. Grow up you bunch of muppets.

Don't some of our fans sing about Jill Dando or Aberfan and other vile songs not excusing them but 2 great clubs in Scotland both followed by vile fans 

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24 minutes ago, SARJ said:

Correct. Still doesn't change the fact that the majority of Celtic's support today still celebrates the IRA, militant Republicanism, deaths of British troops and offensive rebel songs.

Where do you get your figures from that the MAJORITY of Celtic's support celebrate the IRA and the deaths of British troops, my Irish great grandfather died in the disastrous campaign that was Gallipoli (thanks Churchill) beingof Irish stock I can promise you that a massive majority DO NOT celebrate the IRA, militant republicanism or the deaths of British troops, your claims are extremely offensive and have no foundation

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3 minutes ago, harrys said:

Where do you get your figures from that the MAJORITY of Celtic's support celebrate the IRA and the deaths of British troops, my Irish great grandfather died in the disastrous campaign that was Gallipoli (thanks Churchill) beingof Irish stock I can promise you that a massive majority DO NOT celebrate the IRA, militant republicanism or the deaths of British troops, your claims are extremely offensive and have no foundation

Harry mate, 2 things:

1.) To say my claims have no foundation are a joke. Watch any Old Firm derby. See the banners, look at the flags, hear the chants. The Old Firm is known worldwide for the Republicanism v Loyalist saga. Majority of Celtic fans I've encountered/work with share the "Up the 'RA" sentiments I've mentioned.

2.) I assume you're a grown mature man. So don't get 'offended' so easily by something you read online like all the other PC wimps of the 21st Century.

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4 minutes ago, SARJ said:

Harry mate, 2 things:

1.) To say my claims have no foundation are a joke. Watch any Old Firm derby. See the banners, look at the flags, hear the chants. The Old Firm is known worldwide for the Republicanism v Loyalist saga. Majority of Celtic fans I've encountered/work with share the "Up the 'RA" sentiments I've mentioned.

2.) I assume you're a grown mature man. So don't get 'offended' so easily by something you read online like all the other PC wimps of the 21st Century.

Your claims that a MAJORITY celebrate the IRA and the deaths of British troops is the joke,  again, where do you get these figures from, and please don't be so patronising about me having to read anything on line, I've forgotten more than most people know when it comes to Irish/ Catholic history, go and take your hatred and ignorance somewhere else

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23 minutes ago, harrys said:

Where do you get your figures from that the MAJORITY of Celtic's support celebrate the IRA and the deaths of British troops, my Irish great grandfather died in the disastrous campaign that was Gallipoli (thanks Churchill) beingof Irish stock I can promise you that a massive majority DO NOT celebrate the IRA, militant republicanism or the deaths of British troops, your claims are extremely offensive and have no foundation

The existence of the Green Brigade within the stadium needs no poll.  The majority of Celtic support condone, encourage and support that pro terrorist stance by allowing them to exist. Its tacit approval and celebration rolled into one.

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Just now, Cowshed said:

The existence of the Green Brigade within the stadium needs no poll.  The majority of Celtic support condone, encourage and support that pro terrorist stance by allowing them to exist. Its tacit approval and celebration rolled into one.

So when the East End sung that vile Aberfan song at Cardiff fans all other City fans condoned it by allowing them to sing it?

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1 minute ago, harrys said:

So when the East End sung that vile Aberfan song at Cardiff fans all other City fans condoned it by allowing them to sing it?

Which decade we talking about Harrys ?

I recall 73/74 .

If I have missed something recently then apologies in advance.

People are a bit more enlightened and the demographic of fans has by and large changed. 

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Just now, harrys said:

Agreed, a long time ago thank god, the most shameful thing in my 50 years of following City, I'm sat here feeling very uncomfortable just writing this

I know peole who sang it admit to being ashamed now.

Teenagers in the main, unthinking. I  think there's quite a difference with brain dead pissed up teens from an era where violence was always around the corner, and organised politically motivated adults in an otherwise controlled stadium environment.

Those ***** in Sunderland may or may not be political, but they were provocative and I sincerely hope they get smashed. 

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6 minutes ago, harrys said:

So when the East End sung that vile Aberfan song at Cardiff fans all other City fans condoned it by allowing them to sing it?

I am of any unaware of a structural organisation within Bristol City support that condones and supported terrorism. I am also unaware of any timeline stretching back ten years  where supporters have displayed huge banners in support of anti British terrorism at Ashton Gate.

Neither would be supported by the FC or its fans.

I am aware that both exist and thrive at Celtic. You did not answer that point. You cannot because the existence of the Green Brigade says it all.

The Green Brigade do not even approve of the defeat of Hitler.

 

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22 minutes ago, harrys said:

Agreed, a long time ago thank god, the most shameful thing in my 50 years of following City, I'm sat here feeling very uncomfortable just writing this

So, BCFC rehabilitated then?.

Celtic next?.

With all due respect that was a pretty poor comparison, but at least highlights that fans can be educated.

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9 minutes ago, Cowshed said:

I am of any unaware of a structural organisation within Bristol City support that condones and supported terrorism. I am also unaware of any timeline stretching back ten years  where supporters have displayed huge banners in support of anti British terrorism at Ashton Gate.

Neither would be supported by the FC or its fans.

I am aware that both exist and thrive at Celtic. You did not answer that point. You cannot because the existence of the Green Brigade says it all.

The Green Brigade do not even approve of the defeat of Hitler.

 

I can't comment on a small minority (green brigade) approval of the defeat of Hitler, vile if true. My earlier comment was aimed at the poster who stated that a MAJORITY of Celtic supporters celebrate the IRA and the death of British soldiers, this is simply untrue. Just for the record I am not a Celtic supporter but I am a Proud Catholic and all my family are Irish of which many ARE Celtic supporters 

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8 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said:

So, BCFC rehabilitated then?.

Celtic next?.

With all due respect that was a pretty poor comparison, but at least highlights that fans can be educated.

Thank you, I am now fully rehabilitated and over the counselling 

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1 minute ago, harrys said:

I can't comment on a small minority (green brigade) approval of the defeat of Hitler, vile if true. My earlier comment was aimed at the poster who stated that a MAJORITY of Celtic supporters celebrate the IRA and the death of British soldiers, this is simply untrue. Just for the record I am not a Celtic supporter but I am a Proud Catholic and all my family are Irish of which many ARE Celtic supporters 

Last post.

The Green Brigade have existed within Celtics support for overt ten years.

They have been rewarded by the FC  with their own section of the stadium.

These avowed anti fascists protest against an army that fought fascism in two world wars and against teams from Israel, a  Country that lost millions to the Nazis.

Celtics support allow these at best confused fools to be in the ground. The majority allow these idiots to celebrate murder and terrorism. They should be tearing down their banners and running them out the stadium. They clearly have significant backing amongst Celtic support, a majority even. 

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51 minutes ago, harrys said:

Your claims that a MAJORITY celebrate the IRA and the deaths of British troops is the joke,  again, where do you get these figures from, and please don't be so patronising about me having to read anything on line, I've forgotten more than most people know when it comes to Irish/ Catholic history, go and take your hatred and ignorance somewhere else

Oh Harry, poor Harry. If you choose believe that most at Celtic Park are not pro-Rep/IRA sympathizers than carry on doing so me old chum, ignorance is bliss as they say.

But please don't do the standard left wing thing of branding everyone ignorant or hateful when they disagree with your firmly held views. It's not hateful to state that Celtic do have a large pro-IRA following (including the green brigade), that's a sad fact.

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1 minute ago, Cowshed said:

Last post.

The Green Brigade have existed within Celtics support for overt ten years.

They have been rewarded by the FC  with their own section of the stadium.

These avowed anti fascists protest against an army that fought fascism in two world wars and against teams from Israel, a  Country that lost millions to the Nazis.

Celtics support allow these at best confused fools to be in the ground. The majority allow these idiots to celebrate murder and terrorism. They should be tearing down their banners and running them out the stadium. They clearly have significant backing amongst Celtic support, a majority even. 

Just out of interest does anyone have the same vitriol towards Rangers, whose fans have a huge following among Northern Irish terrorist groups,  constantly sing vile songs about the Pope and the glorification in the deaths of thousands of Irishmen over several centuries, or their previous positive discrimination of not employing a Catholic for over 100 years or is all that ok just because they wave the Union Jack?

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11 minutes ago, SARJ said:

Oh Harry, poor Harry. If you choose believe that most at Celtic Park are not pro-Rep/IRA sympathizers than carry on doing so me old chum, ignorance is bliss as they say.

But please don't do the standard left wing thing of branding everyone ignorant or hateful when they disagree with your firmly held views. It's not hateful to state that Celtic do have a large pro-IRA following (including the green brigade), that's a sad fact.

Oh sarg, poor sarg, you obviously have problems trying to back up your statements with facts, again, where do you get your figures from, reading the Daily Mail again?

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7 minutes ago, harrys said:

Just out of interest does anyone have the same vitriol towards Rangers, whose fans have a huge following among Northern Irish terrorist groups,  constantly sing vile songs about the Pope and the glorification in the deaths of thousands of Irishmen over several centuries, or their previous positive discrimination of not employing a Catholic for over 100 years or is all that ok just because they wave the Union Jack?

Harry's, there has been a lot of vitriol against Rangers on this thread, but this is a thread about Sunderland and Celtic and as somebody pointed out a couple of posts ago you are trying to use the socialist ploy of 'yeah but they are just as bad' and not attempting to answer or get involved in what this thread is actually about.

At least Miah for instance has acknowledged that there is a problem and has stated her disgust, why can't you? and wait for the next time Rangers fans transgress to vilify them?.

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