Aipearcey Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 35 minutes ago, Monkeh said: Read the sporting events act 1985its nothing to do with the club it's the law of this country Love how people keep quoting that it's law when its also law not to stand up during the match but the club have said they take a "relaxed approach" in these areas. I personally think standing adds to the atmosphere but understand that some people can't/don't want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBibs Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 I was fairly near to the bloke who was asked to leave for throwing the flare onto the pitch. From what I saw the flare landed near to him and he then threw it away and it landed on the pitch. He was involved in a long and heated discussion with a steward then at half time 3 or 4 police and a number of stewards came up to him and asked him to leave. He didn't bring the flare into the ground and was unlucky from what I saw that the flare landed near him, and as a result I assume he'll be banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: Wonder if a melted pitch has ever been used as a reason to call a game off? Pompei versus Herculaneum. 79AD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: Pompei versus Herculaneum. 79AD. What a game that was. Won't see the likes again. Real shame Pompeii went under. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coach Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 Just now, Bristol Rob said: What a game that was. Won't see the likes again. Real shame Pompeii went under. It was a real blast apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Mkelly said: The pitch is heavily invested in to ensure a high quality playing surface, my grounds team worked 14 hours today and will do the same tomorrow See the picture below. Not only does it ruin the integrity of the pitch it's also a massive risk if landed on a child. we are very much encouraging atmosphere and whole heartily suppprt section 82 and are working close with them to create something special we have identified the guys who threw the flare and can assure you that they will be banned and prosecuted Mark Flippin heck Mark. Get them a wider lawnmower. 14 hours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepUpLino Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 3 hours ago, Mkelly said: There will be an instant ban for any fans caught with Pyros in the stadium. please don't ruin what is otherwise a great atmosphere Really!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashdangate Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 I hope they search millwall fans you never know what they will be carrying might even be a coach sign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepUpLino Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 35 minutes ago, iamsober said: good and they deserve it Really you wet ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 Back in the 70s nearly everyone took flares to Ashton Gate. Nobody batted an eyelid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 Presumably those who have posted on here who believe flares and smoke bombs are able bodied and able to move if their asthma plays up. When the smoke permeates the disabled sections this is not necessarily the case. Sadly we seem to live in a society these data of I'm alright so did you. Flares and smoke bombs are not universally accepted across Europe. I have been to a number of continental games where the stewards and police have waded in when they have been let off - and I mean waded in quite prepared to crack a few skulls with batons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbo Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 8 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said: Back in the 70s nearly everyone took flares to Ashton Gate. Nobody batted an eyelid. You would only throw those on the pitch if you had your best y-fronts on though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 25 minutes ago, MrBibs said: I was fairly near to the bloke who was asked to leave for throwing the flare onto the pitch. From what I saw the flare landed near to him and he then threw it away and it landed on the pitch. He was involved in a long and heated discussion with a steward then at half time 3 or 4 police and a number of stewards came up to him and asked him to leave. He didn't bring the flare into the ground and was unlucky from what I saw that the flare landed near him, and as a result I assume he'll be banned. And did the person who actually did let it off step forward and own up or was he happy to let another fellow City fan take the blame? No, thought not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC&T Board Members Blagdon red Posted August 5, 2017 SC&T Board Members Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 43 minutes ago, Aipearcey said: Love how people keep quoting that it's law when its also law not to stand up during the match but the club have said they take a "relaxed approach" in these areas. I personally think standing adds to the atmosphere but understand that some people can't/don't want to. There is no law against standing up. The law merely says that certain grounds must provide only "seated accommodation". It does not say that fans have to sit. The law does say that taking pyro into football grounds is illegal. It's one of the quickest ways to get a long ban, as this factsheet from the FSF explains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 1 hour ago, WolfOfWestStreet said: Banned and prosecuted? Come on Mark So over the top. Sad really. Club should use a bit of common sense - first game of the season excitement, people been drinking all day - stuff happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: So over the top. Sad really. Club should use a bit of common sense - first game of the season excitement, people been drinking all day - stuff happens. Sympathise with this, except long before the excitement they decided to buy the flares and take them into the ground. Slightly more intentional and premeditated than a bit of over-exhuberance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 If its life bans then absolutely ott. If its a couple of games to learn a lesson then fine. Imagine gettibg a life ban for something petty like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redapple Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 2 hours ago, WolfOfWestStreet said: Banned and prosecuted? Come on Mark Completely OTT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 2 hours ago, Trueredsupporte said: doubt its a majority who would support fans bringing something illegal into then ground and throwing it on the pitch. Shouldn't be illegal ergo shouldn't have to throw it on pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fat Controller Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 Just now, 054123 said: Shouldn't be illegal ergo shouldn't have to throw it on pitch. But it absolutely is illegal and they have flouted that law. Just because someone disagrees with a law doesn't give them a right to disregard it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fat Controller Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 21 minutes ago, WolfOfWestStreet said: If its life bans then absolutely ott. If its a couple of games to learn a lesson then fine. Imagine gettibg a life ban for something petty like that. Then why did they take the risk of getting such a ban? Honestly what do you expect the club to do here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Maesknoll Red Posted August 5, 2017 Admin Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 1 minute ago, Chris_Brown said: But it absolutely is illegal and they have flouted that law. Just because someone disagrees with a law doesn't give them a right to disregard it. I doubt if there is a person in the country that hasn't broken some law or other, it does seem a bit OTT facing possible lifetime ban and time up the big house, just for a smoke canister, there are people who have been done for acts of violence who have received lesser punishments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamsober Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 1 hour ago, 'keepuplino' said: Really you wet ........ same to you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, Chris_Brown said: Then why did they take the risk of getting such a ban? Honestly what do you expect the club to do here? Use some common sense. Punishment proportionate to the offense. Geez you dont go down for life for nicking a packet of crisps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 2 hours ago, Mkelly said: Yes I can see that would merit a ban and prosecution. While the club is on the offensive for these vandals, could it also for example identify the culprit that wasted £3 million on Tomlin and sold him on for next to nothing, now that really offends me. Every day, most posters on here - including the killjoys - drive cars, knowing that they cause pollution and hence are harmful to others. They also know they could be involved in an accident where a child is killed. That is an unavoidable statistical fact, and yet every day you still take that risk. Puts into perspective the remote possibility that somebody could be caused serious harm from colored smoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trueredsupporter Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 1 hour ago, CotswoldRed said: Back in the 70s nearly everyone took flares to Ashton Gate. Nobody batted an eyelid. Wore flares maybe. thousands didn't take this pyro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 I don't necessarily agree with the life ban thing. Regardless of rights and wrongs though, surely it's not the clubs call? In the sense of the police, moreover the law. Even if the club had a different opinion, could they do much about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: I don't necessarily agree with the life ban thing. Regardless of rights and wrongs though, surely it's not the clubs call? In the sense of the police, moreover the law. Even if the club had a different opinion, could they do much about it? I'm afraid every misdemeanour is a life ban these days. The club doesn't have the same principles, however, when it comes to players. Like every other club. Life ban seems to be the default action without any proper chance for fans to defend themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: I don't necessarily agree with the life ban thing. Regardless of rights and wrongs though, surely it's not the clubs call? In the sense of the police, moreover the law. Even if the club had a different opinion, could they do much about it? The club have the right to refuse admission to anyone and the courts can issue a banning order. But they club decide who they let in, regardless of if they have a banning order or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 I haven't read through all the posts but as far as I'm concerned I thought it looked great from the West Stand, I assume most posted are moaning? Get a life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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