reddogkev Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Ok, we're only 2 league games in, so it is almost ridiculous to try to consider it seriously, but now we've won and lost a game, what do you think? I feel our squad is at the strongest it has been for many a year and, conversely, I do not consider the Championship to be at its usual strength this season. In other words, this might be a damn good season to have a crack at the top end of the table - although we need to win games we dominate for large periods. Do we have any chance, or still too soon for us this season? If you feel we won't have enough this year, would you say that SL should splash out for one more expensive, quality signing to improve our chances? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robson Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 No. Top half might be but we're short on quality to go further over 46 games. That's ok, this is a young squad and as long as we're nowhere near relegation and playing decent football I am ok for the moment. I am still unconvinced by LJ but the way the team approached the first three games was encouraging. Hopefully he will learn as much as the players do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityloyal473 Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Nope, nope, nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddrive Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 No. Not this season. I would hope top 12 and push on next season. But who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjam!n Ultra Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 :laugh: no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inactive user Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Genuinely think we're looking at top 2 if we can get and keep a head of steam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 1 minute ago, Rednwhiterob said: Genuinely think we're looking at top 2 if we can get and keep a head of steam. Well ask a stupid question I guess..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted August 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 1 minute ago, Rednwhiterob said: Genuinely think we're looking at top 2 if we can get and keep a head of steam. Wait a minute, is that genuinely serious? I was just about to comment on the 100% answer of - not a frikkin chance - and you've bucked the trend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 1 minute ago, reddogkev said: Wait a minute, is that genuinely serious? I was just about to comment on the 100% answer of - not a frikkin chance - and you've bucked the trend! Either a troll or a Johnson I'm going for a complete and utter Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 No, but it appears we are heading in the right direction and a lower top half finish should be a realistic aim for this season. Having said that, we all know how this division is unpredictable and any team that gets themselves on a prolonged good run of results can start to turn their focus to a top 6 finish. One of those COULD be us, but I don't think we will get that high. Yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Nope. Midtable, better than last year with no relegation slipperiness would be ok I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted August 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 1 minute ago, Bar BS3 said: No, but it appears we are heading in the right direction and a lower top half finish should be a realistic aim for this season. Having said that, we all know how this division is unpredictable and any team that gets themselves on a prolonged good run of results can start to turn their focus to a top 6 finish. One of those COULD be us, but I don't think we will get that high. Yet. Yep, also my view; I am expecting one of the most unexpected, exciting seasons of shocks and twists we've seen for many a year. Should be true entertainment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheshire_red Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 10 minutes ago, Rednwhiterob said: Genuinely think we're looking at top 2 if we can get and keep a head of steam. Lost, irrational Mackem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Textbook @reddogkev thread. In answer to the question - it's far too soon to say but who knows. If Huddersfield can do it that has to be the benchmark. Very unlikely though I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 I do not think top six is likely but I also do not think it is impossible. I agree there are few obviously strong teams this season and some of those who look strongest have started poorly. IF we can regularly play the way we have played in the first half of games for 90 minutes, IF our players stay fit and IF luck is on our side we have a chance. There are a lot of "ifs" there but I am hopeful we can finish closer to the top than the bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 7-14th I think. Would be happy with that if we're playing good football and show signs of young player developing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Cigar Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 I'd be extremely disappointed if we didn't improve on last season's 17th. To be honest, with the players we've got (and some are good, some average, none excellent), we should be aiming for 12th-14th as a minimum. Once we learn how to be ruthless, how to kill teams off, how to defend a lead, we'll be making progress. Some of the football we play is wonderful, but it's quite naive at times. Some of the best teams are happy to sit back, soak up pressure, and hit you on the break. We're not that team. Our style of play is also energy-sapping. This is why you need every player (strikers included) to be able to defend. There are some very talented players in that squad, with a year or two of Championship experience. If we're not comfortably mid-table after 23 matches, something's not right. We're lucky we have Wright playing the Flint type role. The figurehead, the bruiser. I'd also expect Korey and Pack to lead the midfield. As some have said, this league is not as strong as last year's. There's not a single team I'd be worried about playing. Confidence is a huge factor. Mentally, we were gone during that awful run of defeats last year, as well as all the games where we blew first half leads. Mental thoughness and a ruthless, clinical, streak is probably as important as talent in this division. Top 6? Not this year, but these players, with the right management and coaching, can certainly challenge for it in a year or two. Whether they're good enough to push for promotion remains to be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floatn Over Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Let's just get to 50+ points as soon as possible, shall we. A decent final position is possible but there are lots of issues that need to "click" into place for that to happen. If they did and we were up there, I'd be singing as loudly as anyone but........... I just don't want another ****** relegation scrap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Forgot to add I don't think SL should splash out on a costly new signing in the hope of guaranteeing top six any more than I think a guy in a Vegas casino should have one more go at the slot machines in case this is the time they pay out. Every club is gambling and it is far from clear whether one more signing would make a difference either way. We could finish top six without them or, more likely, we could make the signing and still miss out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastside Moonwalker Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 10th-12th would be ideal to be honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 I would snap your arm off for 12-14th and watching some decent attacking football, and hopefully getting a bit more solid at the back as the season progresses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 We will be nearer the bottom 6 than the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gl1 Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Top 16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 7 minutes ago, Fat Cigar said: I'd be extremely disappointed if we didn't improve on last season's 17th. To be honest, with the players we've got (and some are good, some average, none excellent), we should be aiming for 12th-14th as a minimum. Once we learn how to be ruthless, how to kill teams off, how to defend a lead, we'll be making progress. Some of the football we play is wonderful, but it's quite naive at times. Some of the best teams are happy to sit back, soak up pressure, and hit you on the break. We're not that team. Our style of play is also energy-sapping. This is why you need every player (strikers included) to be able to defend. There are some very talented players in that squad, with a year or two of Championship experience. If we're not comfortably mid-table after 23 matches, something's not right. We're lucky we have Wright playing the Flint type role. The figurehead, the bruiser. I'd also expect Korey and Pack to lead the midfield. As some have said, this league is not as strong as last year's. There's not a single team I'd be worried about playing. Confidence is a huge factor. Mentally, we were gone during that awful run of defeats last year, as well as all the games where we blew first half leads. Mental thoughness and a ruthless, clinical, streak is probably as important as talent in this division. Top 6? Not this year, but these players, with the right management and coaching, can certainly challenge for it in a year or two. Whether they're good enough to push for promotion remains to be seen. The difference between 17th and 14th and 12th last season, was 4 and 8 points. Less than 3 wins difference in a whole season. It's mad when you think about it. A few wins define a season, and whether a manager is any good or not. I'd like to think, we wouldn't go on a winless streak again. Are we a squad capable of 5 more wins than last season? If the answer is yes, then that would put us in comfortably in the top 10. Obviously a lot depends on injuries, form etc... but if we continue the way we are playing and creating chances, as well as tightening the defence...is 5 extra wins a reality? I think it possibly is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slack Bladder Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Top 24, without a shadow of doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCRED Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 9 minutes ago, spudski said: The difference between 17th and 14th and 12th last season, was 4 and 8 points. Less than 3 wins difference in a whole season. It's mad when you think about it. A few wins define a season, and whether a manager is any good or not. I'd like to think, we wouldn't go on a winless streak again. Are we a squad capable of 5 more wins than last season? If the answer is yes, then that would put us in comfortably in the top 10. Obviously a lot depends on injuries, form etc... but if we continue the way we are playing and creating chances, as well as tightening the defence...is 5 extra wins a reality? I think it possibly is. Anything is possible in this league, a few injuries can ruin it, bounce of the ball, Lady luck. There are so many ifs buts and maybes that can affect a team. We have dominated two games for significant periods and one we won and the other we should have based on chances created. If we acquire a ruthless streak then anything is possible, if we continue to be wasteful then we will in my opinion sit mid table. The playing style and new additions have certainly encouraged a lot of fans but it's a long season as we know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redapple Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Of course it's possible if a tad optimistic. I certainly think we're capable of beating anyone , and who knows if we get up ahead of steam like our promotion season anythings possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chivs Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 If we get a decent holding central midfielder with an ounce of pace then we will finish in the top 6 easily. We won't. And we won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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