AlrightMeBabber Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 I'd be happy with mid-table. I think we've approached first 2 games well and have lessons to learn from both games. The fact we went to Brum and didn't get turned right over I think is a positive, although they've had their problems it's a tough place to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Rich Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 1 hour ago, reddogkev said: Ok, we're only 2 league games in, so it is almost ridiculous to try to consider it seriously. I'd say you should of typed this bit and then taken your own advice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 The question is probably phrased in terms of the quality of players. In which case an outside possibility. But it is also the job of the coaches to get us there and that is where our major problems lie. Does anyone seriously think that being one up in opening moments of Saturday's game or even when at 1-1, if Harry had been managing us, we would have come away with no points? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTFiGO!?! Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Top 24. Really I just hope we do the basics properly, win the fixtures we would expect too and be in the next batch above the bottom six. I predicted 18th at the start, I'm quietly confident we may do a little better but not by much. I think the whole division will be closer than last season. Being beaten by a mediocre Brum side, not taking our chances and not defending well enough is no course for confidence - it seems a continuation of what we saw a lot of last season i.e/a hard luck story. Fair play though, we did dispatch of Barnsley with ease. There seems to be quite a bit of mis-guided (imv) optimism around, - I don't mind because it means I should clean up in the Prediction League I sincerely hope I'm wrong and would break your arm of for 14th! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
You Do The Dziekanowski Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Realistic aim is top 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 15 minutes ago, Chivs said: If we get a decent holding central midfielder with an ounce of pace then we will finish in the top 6 easily. We won't. And we won't. I do think this is our main priority as well Chivs. Don't think it will necessary make us top 6 though, but I don't think Korey and O'neil are the answer over the whole of a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkInChance Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheddarReds Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 46 minutes ago, spudski said: The difference between 17th and 14th and 12th last season, was 4 and 8 points. Less than 3 wins difference in a whole season. It's mad when you think about it. A few wins define a season, and whether a manager is any good or not. I'd like to think, we wouldn't go on a winless streak again. Are we a squad capable of 5 more wins than last season? If the answer is yes, then that would put us in comfortably in the top 10. Obviously a lot depends on injuries, form etc... but if we continue the way we are playing and creating chances, as well as tightening the defence...is 5 extra wins a reality? I think it possibly is. Good to see you back, Spud! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 49 minutes ago, Super said: We will be nearer the bottom 6 than the top. completely agree with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Exile Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 We'll need to grind out some narrow wins to get in the top half of the table, let alone higher than that. So it's a no from me. At the moment I'd characterise our side as enthusiastic and - in LJs words - at times "naive"...needs the grit and determination that I was expecting that G O'N was going to add last season. I don't see that on or off the pitch. Perhaps it will come with experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderingred Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Problem is, whilst the raw quality is there, we are nowhere near streetwise enough. And that goes for both the players and management. We are still naive, lacking in bite and nastiness. When we play well, we can blow away the opposition but its the even games that are the problem because we almost always end up losing them by the odd goal. Top six sides find a way to win those games when not playing well.. Mid table and bottom half sides find a way to lose after being the better side. We are still the latter at the moment but theres no reason why that can't change with a couple of additions and more experience from our younger players. This year though? Too soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Afternoon drinking has a lot to answer for !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamalagerdrinker Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Adenflint.jpeg.nonono Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Of course it is, what's the point in turning up if we have no ambition in promotion? OK we seem to be in a better place, but if we are to make the play offs we still have defensive issues that need to be sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Colby-Tit Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Top eight I reckon. Pessimistic bunch on here mind. We've got Bobby Reid FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 1 hour ago, reddogkev said: Yep, also my view; I am expecting one of the most unexpected, exciting seasons of shocks and twists we've seen for many a year. Should be true entertainment. I think what will be interesting also, is that whilst 1 or 2 clubs may fall adrift at the bottom, I can't see any team running away with the title and the promotion race, including all top 6 places, could be the closest for many seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 We'll be in the bottom 18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSSEL85 Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 I think we all have ambition for promotion but Im happy to see progress for now, if we end up 14th Id be happy with that. I dont see us as a top 6 team, in spells perhaps but on a consistent level I see us as a mid to lower half team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 6 minutes ago, Shtanley said: We'll be in the bottom 18. We are better than that. We'll be in the top 18 I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Possible yes. But about 18 other teams think so too. Of all those deriding - sure no one thought we could achieve it in 07/08 either. Likely .... I'd say not. I think we're 2 or 3 quality players away from being there and there are too many stronger teams. But we've shown before that on our day we can outplay the very best sides in the league. I just don't think we're yet at the point where we can have 'our day' consistently enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelCityRobin Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 I'm putting at least 60 points as the benchmark for this season. I think it's a reasonable demand for the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 12 minutes ago, SteelCityRobin said: I'm putting at least 60 points as the benchmark for this season. I think it's a reasonable demand for the team. I think 66 is possible. W17, D15, L14. Compared to last season's W15 D9 L22. 66 would leave us somewhere around 10th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YGBjammy Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Top 12 would be excellent progress, anything worse than 15th would be a disappointment IMO. Championship is such an unpredictable League though so genuinely anything could happen. But that's why it's the best league! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Doubtful. No, I'll say it's not possible. Best we can hope for is not to be below 18th at end of April 2018. The lack of pace in central defence and midfield leaves too wide open and as FF seems to concede longer shots too often, I think it will be another up hill struggle. Hope I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citytop22 Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 I think we will probably be in a scrap at the bottom of the table rather than top 6. Not sure the squad on paper is much better than last season but here's hoping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 28 minutes ago, Thatch35 said: You never know. But the squad is not stronger than last year....as of yet. New young players have arrived with no championship experience (or league one stars) this happend last season and what a struggle it turned out. Just got to wait now and see if the squad turns out to be stronger...that will be evident at the end im afraid. I also think the championship is stronger again. Just look at wolves...16mill on a midfielder...mental. Which players do you think we've signed this summer that we're League one stars and have no championship experience..? Baker= Championship experience Pisano=Serie A & B experience Famara=full international and already looks perfectly well equipped for Championship football. Eliasson= young & raw, granted, but was attracting interest from Lyon. Add to them, a host of younger players who now have championship experience from last season and I don't think we are looking weaker than last season. Far from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Let's just take a step back and consider after about 46 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnclosureSurge Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Shtanley said: We'll be in the bottom 18. 2 hours ago, You Do The Dziekanowski said: Realistic aim is top 21 I reckon we'll be in the middle 18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnclosureSurge Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 53 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said: Let's just take a step back and consider after about 46 games. I reckon we'll have a good idea after 45. Games. Not minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnclosureSurge Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 3 hours ago, Fat Cigar said: To be honest, with the players we've got (and some are good, some average, none excellent), we should be aiming for 12th-14th as a minimum. I'm interested that you don't see any of our players as 'excellent'. Of course, it's an entirely subjective concept - one man's excellence is another's average - but I would have said Korey Smith could plausibly be described as excellent by many people's standards. Perhaps excellence in this scenario could be seen as 'good enough to walk into most Champ teams'. I reckon Korey would be able to do that. Other than him, true, excellence is missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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