Bar BS3 Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 Can I just get something straight because I'm finding the mood of the forum a little confusing so far this season. Man I right in thinking that if we dominate and win a game, then the opposition isn't strong..? If we dominate a game for long spells but lose, narrowly, despite hitting the woodwork several times, then it's LJ's fault..? If we get out played by one of the best teams (on their day) in the division, with their manager stating how exceptionally well they played, in a fixture that we seldom get much from, but come away with a battling, last gasp point, then it's LJ's fault..? Can someone please provide a list of clubs that are of the required standard, so I know if beating them is to be applauded or ignored. Whilst at it, can that list be distributed to all 23 other teams, who clearly don't know the rules either and keep beating each other. Thank you, in anticipation of some clarity over this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Fox Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 Go to the games, City fans are great, on here there are a nucleus of miserable"..........., the rest are OK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 Oh great another thread created to have a go at those with alternative views to the prescribed 'blind support', with no backup evidence provided in defence of the football being displayed on the pitch. I was so missing these too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, Grey Fox said: Go to the games, City fans are great, on here there are a nucleus of miserable"..........., the rest are OK I agree. There is a significant disparity between the mood and expectations of the Club's support at large and the views of the malcontented minority on OTIB , which has become the ghost encarnate of the old enclosure circa 1960s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red Rich Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 16 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: Can I just get something straight because I'm finding the mood of the forum a little confusing so far this season. Man I right in thinking that if we dominate and win a game, then the opposition isn't strong..? If we dominate a game for long spells but lose, narrowly, despite hitting the woodwork several times, then it's LJ's fault..? If we get out played by one of the best teams (on their day) in the division, with their manager stating how exceptionally well they played, in a fixture that we seldom get much from, but come away with a battling, last gasp point, then it's LJ's fault..? Can someone please provide a list of clubs that are of the required standard, so I know if beating them is to be applauded or ignored. Whilst at it, can that list be distributed to all 23 other teams, who clearly don't know the rules either and keep beating each other. Thank you, in anticipation of some clarity over this. Give it a rest mate, you're getting boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 7 minutes ago, Big Red Rich said: Give it a rest mate, you're getting boring. Irony at it's best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted August 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 10 minutes ago, RumRed said: Oh great another thread created to have a go at those with alternative views to the prescribed 'blind support', with no backup evidence provided in defence of the football being displayed on the pitch. I was so missing these too. I refer you to exhibits A) vs Barnsley, B) vs Plymouth & C) vs much of the Birmingham game. Wuite happy with the football being displayed and quite happy with a draw last night despite of a not so good display. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted August 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 8 minutes ago, Big Red Rich said: Give it a rest mate, you're getting boring. Nah you're ok thanks. Block me if you find me boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud55 Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 15 minutes ago, Grey Fox said: Go to the games, City fans are great, on here there are a nucleus of miserable"..........., the rest are OK Would agree with that, the opinions on here are in no way representative of the fan base at large, we had people on here last season organising boycotts, protests etc, etc and none of them ever seemed to come to fruition, we have people guaranteeing that we would sell significantly less season tickets this season such was the displeasure towards LJ from the fan base at large, and yet we have sold basically the same as last season, indicating that they were seriously disconnected with the mood of the wider fan base. But we've had oh Barnsely doesn't count as they are dreadful, so what does that make Forest? worse than dreadful? then what does that make Brentford as they lost to Forest ? There is almost zero perspective from many on here on both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSSEL85 Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 30 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: Can someone please provide a list of clubs that are of the required standard, so I know if beating them is to be applauded or ignored. Whilst at it, can that list be distributed to all 23 other teams, who clearly don't know the rules either and keep beating each other. Uhhh Preston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeyed Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 Just to confirm.. if we play well then the players have performed amazingly, if we lose then LJ is to blame for poor tactics. At no point must praise be given to LJ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 43 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: Can I just get something straight because I'm finding the mood of the forum a little confusing so far this season. Man I right in thinking that if we dominate and win a game, then the opposition isn't strong..? If we dominate a game for long spells but lose, narrowly, despite hitting the woodwork several times, then it's LJ's fault..? If we get out played by one of the best teams (on their day) in the division, with their manager stating how exceptionally well they played, in a fixture that we seldom get much from, but come away with a battling, last gasp point, then it's LJ's fault..? Can someone please provide a list of clubs that are of the required standard, so I know if beating them is to be applauded or ignored. Whilst at it, can that list be distributed to all 23 other teams, who clearly don't know the rules either and keep beating each other. Thank you, in anticipation of some clarity over this. Results would suggest that we have been poor ever since our return to the Championship. 3 seasons on, who's fault is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 There's a good case for us all to switch to Real Madrid or Celtic, so we don't have bothersome opponents to spoil our plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAZ MICHAELS Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 I'm a tad confused too. At times it does seem like if we play well and don't win, then it's the result that matters, but if we play poorly and don't lose then it's the performance that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 57 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: Can I just get something straight because I'm finding the mood of the forum a little confusing so far this season. Man I right in thinking that if we dominate and win a game, then the opposition isn't strong..? I don't think there is anything controversial in that occassionally being the case. I think Barnsley could be one such occassion. They were dreadful. Sometimes teams do have off days, just as we will. More often than not though to dominate you must have performed well, and there's no getting away from the fact for 45 minutes we played very good stuff v Barnsley (understandably the second half was a non-event). Whether another opposition would allow us to play so well is another matter; that is the reservation. If we dominate a game for long spells but lose, narrowly, despite hitting the woodwork several times, then it's LJ's fault..? I would absolutely praise the initial set up v Brum. It was a highly impressive opening. But if you want the A+ for that first half, take the F for the second, because to have no answer to them, or semblence of countering their threat, was absolutely a failure. If we get out played by one of the best teams (on their day) in the division, with their manager stating how exceptionally well they played, in a fixture that we seldom get much from, but come away with a battling, last gasp point, then it's LJ's fault..? Absolutely not, we will get battered this year, we will probably lose by 3 or 4 goals at some point; it happens. But I refer back to the Birmingham comments... we can't allow games to run and continue like they are simulations. LJ needs to be more proactive and more reactive in games. It's a fair critique I feel. Can someone please provide a list of clubs that are of the required standard, so I know if beating them is to be applauded or ignored. Whilst at it, can that list be distributed to all 23 other teams, who clearly don't know the rules either and keep beating each other. Take each game as it comes fella. If it was a competitive, hard fought game, then just being close in it even if we lost might deserve applause... the flip side of that though is I find it hard to applaud to enthusiastically robbing a point. I am bloody glad for that point, but there's a post mortem to be had after a game like that. Thank you, in anticipation of some clarity over this. In my mind it's a concerning start. The points haul is very good all things considered, and we have shown some great football. But last season there was a sense of inevitability that going 1 up was not going to be enough. Who after Brentford equalised thought it was inevitable they'd score again... i'd wager most had that sinking feeling. My problem is we have very little versatility in the way we play and approach games. Until we are able to identify when to put the foot on the ball and manage games, and I think this comes from the sideline, we will struggle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 7 minutes ago, 29AR said: Thing is 29AR, you are a pretty balanced poster. I don't always agree which is fine- opinions etc, but you don't tend to be one of the overreacters, which is who I think @Bar BS3s post is aimed at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo1111 Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 At christmas the table wont lie. Even after 10 games tables can be misleading.... a la last season. People will swing in their moods until everyone has a good wedge of games under their belts then we shall see whats what. Until then you will get these extreme viewpoints. The truth is in the middle. I suspect we will have a slightly better season than last but only slightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 We were awful, couldn't string a pass together. The amount of balls that went to literally nobody was infuriating, no excuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted August 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 37 minutes ago, RUSSEL85 said: Uhhh Preston. You can't harp on about Preston but ignore Huddersfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: Thing is 29AR, you are a pretty balanced poster. I don't always agree which is fine- opinions etc, but you don't tend to be one of the overreacters, which is who I think @Bar BS3s post is aimed at. You facking what? Fancy a meet in the park before I have a dust up with Millwall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, 29AR said: You facking what? Fancy a meet in the park before I have a dust up with Millwall? I quite like dusting. I'll dust the porcelain, you polish the silver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 17 hours ago, LoyalRed said: We will be relegated before xmas It is posts like this that get peoples backs up, 10 minutes before the end (18 with injury time) in the third game. And the numerous others from people who had written the game off. Just have a look around page 13 of the match thread. Truly embarrassing from some of our 'fans'. But when you tell them anything like that you are a "happy clapper" even if you say the performance has been bad. Because you havent overreacted enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted August 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 16 minutes ago, 29AR said: But this is a reasoned, thought out response. You clearly enjoy it when things go well and raise valid questions when they don't go so well. No problem with that at all. It's the people clearly sat behind their keyboards, if not will things to go against us, then with a smug air of satisfaction that at least it's an opportunity to slate LJ, often contradicting their slating from the previous opportunity! If anyone expects us to have every game all our own way then they clearly don't understand this division. Of course, that's not to say their isn't room for constructive debate and questioning, as you have displayed above. The repeatative sniping and blaming LJ for no real other reason than it being LJ, is what gets boring and actually probably makes those of us who back him, do so even more stubbornly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 37 minutes ago, 054123 said: Results would suggest that we have been poor ever since our return to the Championship. 3 seasons on, who's fault is that? Ah, understand now. Johnson is to blame for the results in all 95 championship games since promotion despite a good 25-30 of those was an atrocious run under a different manager. And there was me judging Johnson by HIS time in charge (a top half record), what a fool I am! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC11 Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 26 minutes ago, Tammys Scan said: We were awful, couldn't string a pass together. The amount of balls that went to literally nobody was infuriating, no excuses. So what? Would you have taken a point before KO? I'm sure the majority of our supporter's would of. A point against one of the best footballing sides in the Championship away from home is a decent result regardless of how shit we were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 40 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: Ah, understand now. Johnson is to blame for the results in all 95 championship games since promotion despite a good 25-30 of those was an atrocious run under a different manager. And there was me judging Johnson by HIS time in charge (a top half record), what a fool I am! Um no. It was a genuine question. We have not been a competitive team since our return to this level. Why is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 You see we have now entered a phase where we keep resetting the clock and it's only been 3 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Exile Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, 054123 said: Um no. It was a genuine question. We have not been a competitive team since our return to this level. Why is that? The club's not being led by people of experience, of sufficient proven ability to move it forward. I can't understand why a man of SL's wealth has failed to recruit an off the pitch team who knows what's needed at this level. Everything flows from that, recruitment, results, attendances...and ultimately realistic hopes of a push for promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inactive user Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 2 hours ago, Bar BS3 said: Can I just get something straight because I'm finding the mood of the forum a little confusing so far this season. Man I right in thinking that if we dominate and win a game, then the opposition isn't strong..? If we dominate a game for long spells but lose, narrowly, despite hitting the woodwork several times, then it's LJ's fault..? If we get out played by one of the best teams (on their day) in the division, with their manager stating how exceptionally well they played, in a fixture that we seldom get much from, but come away with a battling, last gasp point, then it's LJ's fault..? Can someone please provide a list of clubs that are of the required standard, so I know if beating them is to be applauded or ignored. Whilst at it, can that list be distributed to all 23 other teams, who clearly don't know the rules either and keep beating each other. Thank you, in anticipation of some clarity over this. Bang on my friend. You Reds! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 36 minutes ago, BCFC11 said: So what? Would you have taken a point before KO? I'm sure the majority of our supporter's would of. A point against one of the best footballing sides in the Championship away from home is a decent result regardless of how shit we were. Yes I would've, I wasn't saying it was a bad point, just that we were useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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