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9 minutes ago, havanatopia said:

It is January 31st, 1858 and the world's largest ship is launched, sideways, from Napier Yard, Millwall.

Such were the technical difficulties of building such a large ship, 692 ft, that it was the very last of its kind from the J. Scott Russell leased yard at Napier. The ship was the SS Great Eastern designed by Isambard Kingdom Brunel; The maritime connection is a strong one between what is generally known today as the Isle of Dogs and Bristol. Much of the timber and concrete sub structure used for that famous launch remains today amongst the docklands housing developments that sprung up long after the Millwall docks, that came in 1860, and the thousands of terraced docker houses had gone. Millwall football club itself has not played in Millwall since 1910. The success of ship building forced them out and they have played in various locations of Bermondsey ever since. They even dropped their nick name 'The Dockers' and became the Lions as we know them today. 

Bermondsey was the most bombed part of London in WW2. The Germans called it Target Area G. It had previously been a very wealthy part of London with an Abbey that had rivalled Westminster with an estate that spread across many home counties and even as far as Somerset *. There was a history of faith on this site as far back as the 8th century when it was granted privileges by Pope Constantine for a monastry at 'Vermundesai' becoming the Priory of St Saviour attached to the French Abbey of Cluny in 1089 and well noted in the Domesday Book. Perhaps not so bizarrely for the time the Abbey was dissolved in 1537 by Henry VIII and the estate was acquired by Sir Thomas Pope (founder of Trinity College Oxford) who broke up the Abbey buildings and built a mansion for himself. Today, however, the Abbey and its original site, has been extensively dug by archaeologists. 

On January 7th, 2017 another long standing Bermondsey resident saw news of its possible fate plastered across the press. Millwall, already no strangers to moving, faced the real threat of being forced out by Lewisham Council so said the Daily Mail. Kent Live announced that Millwall fans are "not happy about the prospect of moving 50 miles into their county". While the Bermondsey land in question does not include the New Den it does engulf the ground and with a category 2 Academy, like our very own, the club would rightly be very fearful that the leasehold facilities they would lose nearby, such as training pitches, would deprive them of Academy 2 status. In short, their prized academy players would leave to local rivals. For this reason Millwall would have to move to preserve that status. In September 2016, the Labour run council approved plans for those CPOs as part of a mass regeneration project for Bermondsey. Both Bermondsey & Rotherhithe, under Southwark, and Lewisham councils are overwhelmingly Labour councillor run. 

More recently it appears they have won a stay of execution in the CPO battle and will, for now, be able to remain exactly where they are. So what was once famously known as the London Larder, maker of Garibaldis, and is often coined that again today with the famous Borough Market will, for now, have a football club in it. But the subterfuge and shenanigans lurk. A previous senior Labour councillor of Lewisham, Mushtak Malik, is CEO of Renewal the very company seeking the development. But enough of that for now. Maybe we will revisit this on another match day. 

Lets welcome Millwall fans today folks and hope their mad mad element stay away. We all know the vast majority of football supporters are decent folk. 

Enjoy the match.

* maybe later.

All fascinating stuff H , thank you .

They are a proper football club . Love'em or hate'em they remain close to their roots .

Famous players to have graced their club Teddy Sheringham and Keith Harris , their legendary top scorer and ventriloquist, now manager.

The club are famously known for the antics of their salt of the earth supporters who are largely misunderstood. 

This will be a test for us today make no mistake.Newly promoted clubs fight hard to hold onto what they achieved and we will need to be on our game to win.

 I think we'll have a bit too much class for them and predict a narrow home victory.

 

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31 minutes ago, havanatopia said:

It is January 31st, 1858 and the world's largest ship is launched, sideways, from Napier Yard, Millwall.

Such were the technical difficulties of building such a large ship, 692 ft, that it was the very last of its kind from the J. Scott Russell leased yard at Napier. The ship was the SS Great Eastern designed by Isambard Kingdom Brunel; The maritime connection is a strong one between what is generally known today as the Isle of Dogs and Bristol. Much of the timber and concrete sub structure used for that famous launch remains today amongst the docklands housing developments that sprung up long after the Millwall docks, that came in 1860, and the thousands of terraced docker houses had gone. Millwall football club itself has not played in Millwall since 1910. The success of ship building forced them out and they have played in various locations of Bermondsey ever since. They even dropped their nick name 'The Dockers' and became the Lions as we know them today. 

Bermondsey was the most bombed part of London in WW2. The Germans called it Target Area G. It had previously been a very wealthy part of London with an Abbey that had rivalled Westminster with an estate that spread across many home counties and even as far as Somerset *. There was a history of faith on this site as far back as the 8th century when it was granted privileges by Pope Constantine for a monastry at 'Vermundesai' becoming the Priory of St Saviour attached to the French Abbey of Cluny in 1089 and well noted in the Domesday Book. Perhaps not so bizarrely for the time the Abbey was dissolved in 1537 by Henry VIII and the estate was acquired by Sir Thomas Pope (founder of Trinity College Oxford) who broke up the Abbey buildings and built a mansion for himself. Today, however, the Abbey and its original site, has been extensively dug by archaeologists. 

On January 7th, 2017 another long standing Bermondsey resident saw news of its possible fate plastered across the press. Millwall, already no strangers to moving, faced the real threat of being forced out by Lewisham Council so said the Daily Mail. Kent Live announced that Millwall fans are "not happy about the prospect of moving 50 miles into their county". While the Bermondsey land in question does not include the New Den it does engulf the ground and with a category 2 Academy, like our very own, the club would rightly be very fearful that the leasehold facilities they would lose nearby, such as training pitches, would deprive them of Academy 2 status. In short, their prized academy players would leave to local rivals. For this reason Millwall would have to move to preserve that status. In September 2016, the Labour run council approved plans for those CPOs as part of a mass regeneration project for Bermondsey. Both Bermondsey & Rotherhithe, under Southwark, and Lewisham councils are overwhelmingly Labour councillor run. 

More recently it appears they have won a stay of execution in the CPO battle and will, for now, be able to remain exactly where they are. So what was once famously known as the London Larder, maker of Garibaldis, and is often coined that again today with the famous Borough Market will, for now, have a football club in it. But the subterfuge and shenanigans lurk. A previous senior Labour councillor of Lewisham, Mushtak Malik, is CEO of Renewal the very company seeking the development. But enough of that for now. Maybe we will revisit this on another match day. 

Lets welcome Millwall fans today folks and hope their mad mad element stay away. We all know the vast majority of football supporters are decent folk. 

Enjoy the match.

* maybe later.

Condensed Version

Millwall

They launch ships sideways from the German area G.

Abbey of Clancey is from there (wife of Peter of Crouch and neice of George of Clooney). Abbey has been visited extensively by Archaeologists.

City 2 - 0

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Back in the days before Millwall fans gained notoriety, the club produced two goalkeepers both of whom treated City fans to magnificent displays at The Gate.

Alex Stepney later to win a European Cup winners medal for Man U in 1967 and Bryan King who went on to play at Coventry City.

If you have another one as good as these in today's squad Millwall, please leave him to enjoy his Saturday in Bermondsey!

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1 minute ago, cidered abroad said:

Back in the days before Millwall fans gained notoriety, the club produced two goalkeepers both of whom treated City fans to magnificent displays at The Gate.

Alex Stepney later to win a European Cup winners medal for Man U in 1967 and Bryan King who went on to play at Coventry City.

If you have another one as good as these in today's squad Millwall, please leave him to enjoy his Saturday in Bermondsey!

I don`t there was ever a time before that! They were having their ground closed due to trouble before the First World War. I think they hold the record for having it shut more times than any other club.

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1 hour ago, havanatopia said:

It is January 31st, 1858 and the world's largest ship is launched, sideways, from Napier Yard, Millwall.

Such were the technical difficulties of building such a large ship, 692 ft, that it was the very last of its kind from the J. Scott Russell leased yard at Napier. The ship was the SS Great Eastern designed by Isambard Kingdom Brunel; The maritime connection is a strong one between what is generally known today as the Isle of Dogs and Bristol. Much of the timber and concrete sub structure used for that famous launch remains today amongst the docklands housing developments that sprung up long after the Millwall docks, that came in 1860, and the thousands of terraced docker houses had gone. Millwall football club itself has not played in Millwall since 1910. The success of ship building forced them out and they have played in various locations of Bermondsey ever since. They even dropped their nick name 'The Dockers' and became the Lions as we know them today. 

Bermondsey was the most bombed part of London in WW2. The Germans called it Target Area G. It had previously been a very wealthy part of London with an Abbey that had rivalled Westminster with an estate that spread across many home counties and even as far as Somerset *. There was a history of faith on this site as far back as the 8th century when it was granted privileges by Pope Constantine for a monastry at 'Vermundesai' becoming the Priory of St Saviour attached to the French Abbey of Cluny in 1089 and well noted in the Domesday Book. Perhaps not so bizarrely for the time the Abbey was dissolved in 1537 by Henry VIII and the estate was acquired by Sir Thomas Pope (founder of Trinity College Oxford) who broke up the Abbey buildings and built a mansion for himself. Today, however, the Abbey and its original site, has been extensively dug by archaeologists. 

On January 7th, 2017 another long standing Bermondsey resident saw news of its possible fate plastered across the press. Millwall, already no strangers to moving, faced the real threat of being forced out by Lewisham Council so said the Daily Mail. Kent Live announced that Millwall fans are "not happy about the prospect of moving 50 miles into their county". While the Bermondsey land in question does not include the New Den it does engulf the ground and with a category 2 Academy, like our very own, the club would rightly be very fearful that the leasehold facilities they would lose nearby, such as training pitches, would deprive them of Academy 2 status. In short, their prized academy players would leave to local rivals. For this reason Millwall would have to move to preserve that status. In September 2016, the Labour run council approved plans for those CPOs as part of a mass regeneration project for Bermondsey. Both Bermondsey & Rotherhithe, under Southwark, and Lewisham councils are overwhelmingly Labour councillor run. 

More recently it appears they have won a stay of execution in the CPO battle and will, for now, be able to remain exactly where they are. So what was once famously known as the London Larder, maker of Garibaldis, and is often coined that again today with the famous Borough Market will, for now, have a football club in it. But the subterfuge and shenanigans lurk. A previous senior Labour councillor of Lewisham, Mushtak Malik, is CEO of Renewal the very company seeking the development. But enough of that for now. Maybe we will revisit this on another match day. 

Lets welcome Millwall fans today folks and hope their mad mad element stay away. We all know the vast majority of football supporters are decent folk. 

Enjoy the match.

* maybe later.

Big win for City today.

Bag full of goals (3-5).

Second home win of the season, but the Millwall fans will not be happy.

Up the City.

AND another day without nuclear destruction :thumbsup:

 

tfj :winner_third_h4h:

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2 hours ago, havanatopia said:

It is January 31st, 1858 and the world's largest ship is launched, sideways, from Napier Yard, Millwall.

Such were the technical difficulties of building such a large ship, 692 ft, that it was the very last of its kind from the J. Scott Russell leased yard at Napier. The ship was the SS Great Eastern designed by Isambard Kingdom Brunel; The maritime connection is a strong one between what is generally known today as the Isle of Dogs and Bristol. Much of the timber and concrete sub structure used for that famous launch remains today amongst the docklands housing developments that sprung up long after the Millwall docks, that came in 1860, and the thousands of terraced docker houses had gone. Millwall football club itself has not played in Millwall since 1910. The success of ship building forced them out and they have played in various locations of Bermondsey ever since. They even dropped their nick name 'The Dockers' and became the Lions as we know them today. 

Bermondsey was the most bombed part of London in WW2. The Germans called it Target Area G. It had previously been a very wealthy part of London with an Abbey that had rivalled Westminster with an estate that spread across many home counties and even as far as Somerset *. There was a history of faith on this site as far back as the 8th century when it was granted privileges by Pope Constantine for a monastry at 'Vermundesai' becoming the Priory of St Saviour attached to the French Abbey of Cluny in 1089 and well noted in the Domesday Book. Perhaps not so bizarrely for the time the Abbey was dissolved in 1537 by Henry VIII and the estate was acquired by Sir Thomas Pope (founder of Trinity College Oxford) who broke up the Abbey buildings and built a mansion for himself. Today, however, the Abbey and its original site, has been extensively dug by archaeologists. 

On January 7th, 2017 another long standing Bermondsey resident saw news of its possible fate plastered across the press. Millwall, already no strangers to moving, faced the real threat of being forced out by Lewisham Council so said the Daily Mail. Kent Live announced that Millwall fans are "not happy about the prospect of moving 50 miles into their county". While the Bermondsey land in question does not include the New Den it does engulf the ground and with a category 2 Academy, like our very own, the club would rightly be very fearful that the leasehold facilities they would lose nearby, such as training pitches, would deprive them of Academy 2 status. In short, their prized academy players would leave to local rivals. For this reason Millwall would have to move to preserve that status. In September 2016, the Labour run council approved plans for those CPOs as part of a mass regeneration project for Bermondsey. Both Bermondsey & Rotherhithe, under Southwark, and Lewisham councils are overwhelmingly Labour councillor run. 

More recently it appears they have won a stay of execution in the CPO battle and will, for now, be able to remain exactly where they are. So what was once famously known as the London Larder, maker of Garibaldis, and is often coined that again today with the famous Borough Market will, for now, have a football club in it. But the subterfuge and shenanigans lurk. A previous senior Labour councillor of Lewisham, Mushtak Malik, is CEO of Renewal the very company seeking the development. But enough of that for now. Maybe we will revisit this on another match day. 

Lets welcome Millwall fans today folks and hope their mad mad element stay away. We all know the vast majority of football supporters are decent folk. 

Enjoy the match.

* maybe later.

Have a lovely framed "London Illustrated News" full page print/etching of "Great Eastern" during construction,'referenced as original name(Leviathan),with which she was christened during the failed first launch attempt-name changed hence considered to be 'unlucky..the attempted change to better fortune was sadly equally unsuccessful.

Today may well be an open affair with plenty of goals-here's hoping we edge it.

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13 minutes ago, hoxton casual said:

1-0 to City. Need a convincing perfomance to put Brentford behind us. Maybe Odwda will get a start? I assume Woodrow will come on for Famara after 65-70 mins.

We need to freshen it up with a couple of changes today and would give Callum the nod...famara does seem to visibly wilt after 70mins so definitely change for Woodrow,would do it earlier than 65 if 'it ain't happening.

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In respect of millwall and the reputation their fans have...is anybody really interested in them anymore? I mean is it the same reputation as a while ago, or will it likely be the same gesturing behind a police cordon etc before heading back to the station.

i have no first hand experience of the old days just genuinely interested in those that may have been their, if there is still a buzz when they head to Bristol?

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21 minutes ago, MC RISK77 said:

In respect of millwall and the reputation their fans have...is anybody really interested in them anymore? I mean is it the same reputation as a while ago, or will it likely be the same gesturing behind a police cordon etc before heading back to the station.

i have no first hand experience of the old days just genuinely interested in those that may have been their, if there is still a buzz when they head to Bristol?

I used to live on Winterstoke Road in the old days and always waited to leave for the ground after they had come down from Parson Street. The Bristol Rozzers were on overtime pay and must have enhanced their pensions as nearly as many of them as Millwall supporters. Cant remember any broken windows or anything as the police really kept them tight.

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24 minutes ago, MC RISK77 said:

In respect of millwall and the reputation their fans have...is anybody really interested in them anymore? I mean is it the same reputation as a while ago, or will it likely be the same gesturing behind a police cordon etc before heading back to the station.

i have no first hand experience of the old days just genuinely interested in those that may have been their, if there is still a buzz when they head to Bristol?

We used to meet up at the 'Try Again' off North St- very peaceful pub and would often get a small number of away supporters in there and no trouble and  a great way to chat to the 'opposition' as fellow supporters.

One saturday in Div3 ( JJ or TC era) a group of about 15-20 ( maybe more) Millwall were running down North St away from police and a group of about 5-6 burst into the Try Again, punched the nearest guy and ran out again. It happened so quickly that , I'm sad to admit, there was a deeply comedic element to it. No real injury and the guy who was fine got bought several drinks.

 

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3 minutes ago, robin_unreliant said:

According to the bbc preview we have had more shots on target against us than any other team in the championship. So we may well need to score a few to win this game. Hope BR can keep it up.

That's true of every game and has been for three seasons. And still the solution is as always....buy more strikers :blink: 

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2 hours ago, Red Right Hand said:

I don`t there was ever a time before that! They were having their ground closed due to trouble before the First World War. I think they hold the record for having it shut more times than any other club.

The 'Howling Roughs' of Millwall had their ground closed to fans following crowd trouble in 1920 then again in 1934 and 1950. 

55 minutes ago, Garland-sweden said:

Thanks for the reid havanotopia. We had luck on tuesday night and therefore I think we will continue with a win today. As you say Neo, Eliasson starting and Bobby to score. 2-0 City. Always believe, 

That lad is becoming well ingrained on the psyche I see. :) 

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