BobBobSuperBob Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 8 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: Yeah but that's the Championship isn't it. So unpredictable. It would be typical of both City and this league for us to struggle today and beat Villa (we can hope). They say ten games is normally a good barometer and if we're still mid table after ten I'll be happy. It's a results game and if we get sucked into another relegation scrap after 10-15 games then action will need to be taken. As somebody who doesn't always agree with your posts I can't disagree with this (My concern is the fixtures we've played compared to what's to come and the repeating various warning signs) Genuine question , ( as you are somebody that definitely doesn't 'knee jerk' tbf) If we are in the bottom 5 without any real evidence of progress after 10 ? 15 games ? What action would you take ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 1 hour ago, Red-Robbo said: Being unable to score against the bottom club and relegation favourites today shows how limited a side we are. The first 45 minutes of this season gave me real hope. I know we were facing Barnsley and their side full of youth players, but we looked sharp, crisp and dangerous. Today - apart from perhaps the first10 minutes of the second half we looked none of those things. Things have all gone downhill since that first half on the first day (if you don't count our win over Plymouth reserves) and - with the big teams due here shortly - we look like relegation zone regulars in waiting. I wasn't particularly impressed with any of the new boys today, and now it's indisputably "Johnson's team" he hasn't even got the excuse that we're "work in progress". One definition of work in progress is: "something that is being developed or suggested but that is not yet complete" The current City team is definitely not complete and it's definitely not developing. If anything, the team is getting worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 1 minute ago, pongo88 said: One definition of work in progress is: "something that is being developed or suggested but that is not yet complete" The current City team is definitely not complete and it's definitely not developing. If anything, the team is getting worse. Yep, more work in regress than work in progress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman85 Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 8 minutes ago, RumRed said: I disagree, action needs to be taken now. I see nothing that suggests we have improved since last season, how many players will we buy in Jan? Get shot now and give the new head coach a fighting chance. Action won't be taken. Even if we went down SL would keep LJ. All very frustrating. The club has so much potential but a being held back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gert Mare Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 We want long term managers. Living the dream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tears in rain Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 6 minutes ago, Cheesleysmate said: We want long term managers. Living the dream Don't exist in this league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BITW Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 3 hours ago, Raging_Robin said: What's the problem. 1 loss in 4, 3 points to 5th. The transfer window is still open with a big fee to come for Flint. Everyone on this forum seemed to be happy with a mid table finish at the beginning of the season, and that's where we are. The constant negativity is why this club will never succeed. Completely agree. Genuinely convinced certain people on here take some sort of pleasure from us playing poorly so they can have a meltdown. Poor performance today but reading this forum this evening you'd think we'd been spanked 4-0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gert Mare Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 Just now, Tears in rain said: Don't exist in this league They do here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tears in rain Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 Just now, Cheesleysmate said: They do here Haha well played! This current one shouldn't be though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gert Mare Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 8 minutes ago, Tears in rain said: Haha well played! This current one shouldn't be though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tears in rain Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, Cheesleysmate said: Problem is I think most clubs suffer from fans like these. My issue and many people's I imagine is that LJ don't know what he is doing if plan A fails. Redknapp, Clough, Warnock they all get it and adapt straight away. Against us (Cardiff last year, Birmingham end of season and the other week) they adapted to combat our strengths and it paid off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 37 minutes ago, RumRed said: I disagree, action needs to be taken now. I see nothing that suggests we have improved since last season, how many players will we buy in Jan? Get shot now and give the new head coach a fighting chance. Sack a manager after 4 games when you're two points off the playoffs We're not Leeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 32 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: As somebody who doesn't always agree with your posts I can't disagree with this (My concern is the fixtures we've played compared to what's to come and the repeating various warning signs) Genuine question , ( as you are somebody that definitely doesn't 'knee jerk' tbf) If we are in the bottom 5 without any real evidence of progress after 10 ? 15 games ? What action would you take ? I was calling for Johnson's head during the depths of the dismal run last year. IMO another season like the two before it is complete failure. So for me if I was Lansdown, if another relegation scrap is on the cards afer 10-15 games I would be holding my hands up and saying that I got it wrong and a change is needed. Would he do that though? Not sure. But would be ridiculous after 4 games when you're in the top half of the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: I was calling for Johnson's head during the depths of the dismal run last year. IMO another season like the two before it is complete failure. So for me if I was Lansdown, if another relegation scrap is on the cards afer 10-15 games I would be holding my hands up and saying that I got it wrong and a change is needed. Would he do that though? Not sure. But would be ridiculous after 4 games when you're in the top half of the table. Think that's pretty sensible / fair My concerns are , digging below the surface of 5 points and mid table as it stands , is that the indicators are that we are no nearer any consistency or progress (IMHO) and I also believe the recruitment has been )on the whole) very messy , misguided and hap hazard and I'm not sure it's a squad that somebody else could turn into a decent side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimrod Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 If any of you were happy sitting through that debacle today then fair play. Myself though, I'm not ever paying £29 to be entertained by that again. Easily pleased morons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Fleuriot Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 44 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: As somebody who doesn't always agree with your posts I can't disagree with this (My concern is the fixtures we've played compared to what's to come and the repeating various warning signs) Genuine question , ( as you are somebody that definitely doesn't 'knee jerk' tbf) If we are in the bottom 5 without any real evidence of progress after 10 ? 15 games ? What action would you take ? Appreciate you're not asking me, but I'd say 15 games to be able to justifiably pull the trigger if in the bottom 5 (and there isn't a horrendously bunched 6th-20th going on). If we had a different fixture list then I'd say 10 games is enough considering last season, but September is a horrendous set of matches and I think leeway (no pun intended) should be given for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 1 hour ago, BRISTOL86 said: Sack a manager after 4 games when you're two points off the playoffs We're not Leeds. It's not 4 games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habanero11 Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 I'm not that concerned about the manager and his tactics at the moment as he'll be gone after 10 games if we carry on like this. What does concern me is the absence of any real inspiration in the squad. At this level, we've always tended to have one or, if we're lucky, two players who you're certain will go on to bigger and better things - right now, I'm really struggling to see who fits that bill. Baker aside - and I hope I'm proven wrong - I don't think we're recruited well this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 4 hours ago, BITW said: Completely agree. Genuinely convinced certain people on here take some sort of pleasure from us playing poorly so they can have a meltdown. Poor performance today but reading this forum this evening you'd think we'd been spanked 4-0. Like everything, it's all to do with context. And that context is, the only way we would have beaten at home a very mediocre and poorly financed side was if we'd have nicked a goal against the run of play. I'm afraid today was dire. Millwall's second point at this level and a fairly easy one. Only one group of supporters was happy. No way to dress it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldlandReddies Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 Once Famara gets settled and up to speed with Championship football he will be a real threat and the goals will come. Seem to remember Kodjia took at least 10 games before he started hitting the net on a regular basis and he too was questioned by fans early doors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 21 minutes ago, OldlandReddies said: Once Famara gets settled and up to speed with Championship football he will be a real threat and the goals will come. Seem to remember Kodjia took at least 10 games before he started hitting the net on a regular basis and he too was questioned by fans early doors. Kodji scored 6 in his first 10 Championship games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldlandReddies Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 7 hours ago, Jack Dawe said: Kodji scored 6 in his first 10 Championship games. Yep, you are spot on. Just checked and he scored 1 in his next 15 ! Maybe it was that period i was thinking of. Certainly remember City fans doubting him at some stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 On 8/19/2017 at 17:03, Raging_Robin said: What's the problem. 1 loss in 4, 3 points to 5th. The transfer window is still open with a big fee to come for Flint. Everyone on this forum seemed to be happy with a mid table finish at the beginning of the season, and that's where we are. The constant negativity is why this club will never succeed. I'm flattered you think we make that much difference! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 21 minutes ago, Raging_Robin said: Am I still talking "bollox"? Played 6 lost 1. I am happy clapping still.... "clap, clap, clap". Great away win, 9th in the league and playing some decent football. Few more games to go, but here is some actual reality and facts my friend. Villa 0-0 Reading 0-1 COYR's How tragic, just enjoy the win mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 Ffs. Why do people do this when we win a game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastonboy Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 Wow. Someone has sand in their vagina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderingred Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 Villa was actually 1-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redcityman Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 6 minutes ago, Super said: Ffs. Why do people do this when we win a game? A better question may have been , why do people do this when we win or when we lose! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastonboy Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 8 minutes ago, Raging_Robin said: Funny that, look through the thread and see what abuse I got for saying we were doing ok. It's not ok for me to fight back now with facts though. Very odd. It is, and for what it's worth I agree with you - I think we are actually close to being a very good team - it just strikes me as odd when people bump old threads to prove a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 Still on track for 15th. Comfortable survival is the key this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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