The official Bristol City FC v Aston Villa FC match day thread

[Up The City!]

2 minutes ago, winterbournered said:

Terry's reaction tells me it was a pen. No reaction on the first two, that third one, pulled arm straight away, hands went up and nervous look at the ref. 

The ref bottled it because of who it was.

[chipdawg]

1 minute ago, winterbournered said:

Terry's reaction tells me it was a pen. No reaction on the first two, that third one, pulled arm straight away, hands went up and nervous look at the ref. 

It was a penalty. You can't hold your arms out like a scarecrow and claim no advantage. We were the better team for most of that match and Terry looked bang average for me

[Hellfire Corner]

Quote just now on sky " Bristol City developing nicely" - I totally agree.

Great effort from the lads against an uncompromising bunch. Yes, still work in progress, but maximum points for effort.

 

[joe jordans teeth]

1 minute ago, Luxo Jr. said:

And that didn't happen. On two, the ball struck Terry's hand at pace when he couldn't move it away, the third hit his hand when he was clearly trying to move it away. No pen x3.

I said unnatural position mate which is correct 

[Fordy62]

5 minutes ago, Newquay-Red said:

John Terry's hand had more touches of the ball than Cauley Woodrow

You joke. But it had three more touches than Eliasson!

[winterbournered]

Decent enough performance. 

Really need a midfielder who can play the ball about. Seriously lacking there. 

[nebristolred]

2 minutes ago, Tom Fleuriot said:

He clearly doesn't flail his arms around like that when he's running with the ball. They're in a natural position. He knows exactly what he's doing, he's been doing it for years, and it's absolutely handball. 

You've said a lot without saying anything. He's mid tackle, why would your arms be the same as when you're running with the ball? Is that how you play?

[JamesBCFC]

13 minutes ago, nebristolred said:

Doesn't make it right. 99% of football fans and many referees wrongly implement the handball rule. That's not a pen.

Villa gained an advantage by the direction change of the ball after it struck his arm which were in an unnatural position.

 

Letter of the law says penalty.

 

 

That said a draw was fair.

[JackofromSanJavier]

12 minutes ago, BCFC_Mike said:

How was it not a handball? Intercepted the ball with his arm, which was in the air, not down by his sides. 

As we used to say in the old days, "Come on Ref, he had the lace out twice there"

[Super]

3 minutes ago, DaveInSA said:

I like the back four. 

The midfield is lightweight.

The front two never got any service.

We need a midfielder. Before the end of the Xfer window. And a good one too.

Agree with that. Back four were very good tonight. Disappointing going forward though.

[Luxo Jr.]

1 minute ago, joe jordans teeth said:

I said unnatural position mate which is correct 

You said "above his head". And it would be an unnatural position if you weren't running. 

[Tears in rain]

6 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said:

Good game fair result but we could have won it if the ref had done his job on the octupus.

Let's get octopus trending 

[nebristolred]

1 minute ago, JamesBCFC said:

Villa gained an advantage by the direction change of the ball after it struck his arm which were in an unnatural position.

 

Letter of the law says penalty.

That said a draw was fair.

Mate please know what you're talking about before saying something. Letter of the law (if we're being specific) says 100% no penalty. It has to be 100% deliberate if we go by the letter of the law, but none of us do, and no ref's do either.

This thread just going to prove that 99% of football fans have no idea.

[Tom Fleuriot]

1 minute ago, Luxo Jr. said:

Pretty sure the rules say you have to move your hand towards the ball, and then it has to be deliberate. On two, the ball struck Terry's hand at pace when he couldn't move it away, the third hit his hand when he was clearly trying to move it away. No pen x3.

Here you go. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/rules_and_equipment/4524354.stm

[Wolf Island]

2 minutes ago, nebristolred said:

You've said a lot without saying anything. He's mid tackle, why would your arms be the same as when you're running with the ball? Is that how you play?

Penalties don't come more blatant than this. Ref bottled it.

[joe jordans teeth]

1 minute ago, Luxo Jr. said:

You said "above his head". And it would be an unnatural position if you weren't running. 

It's unnatural if your running as well surely 

[Cotham Brow Red]

Irrespective of JT's cheating a good solid workout against a team that will end up there or there abouts is a massive boost. Lads can have a good break and come again with confidence after the internationals. Well done City 

[The Nest Egg]

1 minute ago, Fordy62 said:

You joke. But it had three more touches than Eliasson!

You're not wrong- I do however think Eliasson should have been put on earlier when we were knocking on the door. Pato had started to tire long before he was subbed

[redandy1]

We don't seem to possess any threats to the opposition defence. 

[nebristolred]

1 minute ago, Tom Fleuriot said:

Here you go. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/rules_and_equipment/4524354.stm

That link simply backing up the fact that it isn't handball mate.

[BCFC Grim]

What does Korey Smith offer? Stick Brownhill in his position in the middle with Pack and stick a proper winger out wide. Not a bad performance, but can't help but feel dissapointed.

[Fordy62]

I think "OK" sums up tonight nicely. 

The back four were excellent and Villa got a point thanks to a lucky deflection. 

Shout out for Frankie too. Another point to him. 

[AJgEEZa]

Gents, we were robbed (sort of :laugh:) I thought we played well and there were 3 handballs. 2 were ball to hand, one not so much. It was a penalty. 

[BCFC Rich]

Its law 12 - should be able to find that online. It's quite clear that this isn't handball having had a look at it again. 

[Luxo Jr.]

1 minute ago, Tom Fleuriot said:

Here you go. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/rules_and_equipment/4524354.stm

Right, so the ref clearly decided the movement of his arm wasn't to deliberately hit the ball with his hand. No pen.

[Tom Fleuriot]

Just now, nebristolred said:

That link simply backing up the fact that it isn't handball mate.

Only if you think Jon Terry stands with his arms like that when he isn't expecting a shot or cross, mate. 

[deadredfred]

Fair result that. Could have nicked it, but on balance of play, have to say a point apiece is ok. 

I think we played very well in parts against a side full of very good players. 

We bossed it for long periods, but they also had their fair share at times too. Shame about the handball calls from the ref. 2 would have been incredibly harsh, but the last one was nailed on for me. Alas the John Terry effect. 

Brave of LJ to roll the dice at the end with Eliasson and COD. Not sure Eliasson touched the ball? Woodrow neither, but he had zero service.

Best player: Reid/Pato. Thought they both did the right thing at the right time, just needed a bit more quality in final third. Reid was everywhere. 75 mins he chased back 60 yards to make a tackle and was playing sweeper at times in last 10.

Not sure where Brownhill went for large parts though?

All in all, solid point. Would have taken that before the game. Great to see a consistent performance across the 90 against a side who,  with their playing resources, really ought to be competing. 

On to the next with more confidence for me. 

 

[steveybadger]

7 minutes ago, cityexile said:

Worked hard for that, and possibly about right. Thought Villa shaded the second half, but at the end of the day needed a lucky goal to draw. We hit the post, and in another day could have got a penalty. Much better effort than Millwall, but second home draw in a row.

Their goal - not lucky too? 

Oops sorry pl ignore!!!

[chipdawg]

Brief match report (1st time I've seen us this season)

Defensively very good, midfield (predictably) uncreative, lacking penetration in the final third. We were the better team for most of the match, need more of a threat in the box. Diedhiou clearly has something but needs more support. Reid is transformed, Paterson was wasteful, Brownhill looks like he wants to play in the middle. So make it happen LJ and get Eliasson on earlier

[Tom Fleuriot]

Just now, Luxo Jr. said:

Right, so the ref clearly decided the movement of his arm wasn't to deliberately hit the ball with his hand. No pen.

Yes. I believe the ref was incorrect.