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Phileas Fogg

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Quick quiz question / opinions before I forget and answer is bugging me !

 

Last night MA alluded to making a couple of signings influenced by fan opinions which he admitted may have been a mistake

Tomlin was clearly one , but anyone an idea / opinion who was the other ?

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4 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

Quick quiz question / opinions before I forget and answer is bugging me !

 

Last night MA alluded to making a couple of signings influenced by fan opinions which he admitted may have been a mistake

Tomlin was clearly one , but anyone an idea / opinion who was the other ?

Matthews

 

If so, just goes to show that the management team DO know better than the fans after all!

 

JOHNSON IN

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20 minutes ago, EmersonsRed said:

Almost like there are a few of us *ahem* who have been saying it all along:)

Come back to us when there's evidence *ahem*

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27 minutes ago, RedEyez said:

Bids for Bobby Reid has to be a massive lie cos he's not good enough :whistle:

Were they substantial bids? Presumably not.

If they were bids of any real substance, why would one not be accepted - SL has said all players have their price and we shouldn't become too attached to individual players after all.

The assumption must be that although BR's early headline making form (naturally) attracted plenty of interest, the bids were still all at a fairly low level, hence rejected.

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3 minutes ago, RedEyez said:

Matthews

 

Thanks

:facepalm:

Says it all that I'd forgotten about him !!!!

I bet the day he went into training without those two he felt twice as relaxed and had a smile on his face 

Think they should also take a 'due diligence' slap though - I expressed concerns over LT when we were looking like signing him permanently and that was merely what I'd read and heard about him as a football fan

They are professionally employed in the game and have hundreds of contacts and sources available to them

They made a bad call / gamble on both LT and AM and if I'm honest I thougt the fan influence mention was either a very honest admission of their mistakes or an attempt to dilute the blame - to be fair it was a brief mention and difficult to ascertain which

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55 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said:

I live 15 minutes walk away from AG but that doesn't mean it was convenient for me to go at 7pm on a Thursday.

I've been to several Q&A's before, notably one with GJ, SL and CS, and found the panel to be so well prepared, and such polished speakers that they easily warded off criticism and in fact really searching questions were rarely asked or if they were, not fully explored. The intimacy of the room meant the panel seemed to charm the few dozen or so fans.

To my mind these occasions, though useful, need to be held at such time when masses of fans have assembled at AG anyway, i.e. on the lunchtime of a Saturday matchday, or a pre season open day.

Apart from that, were the fan base at large emailed about the Q&A ( I know it was advertised on the OS) or was the poor turnout, as commented on by a couple of attendees, actually the intention and quite a relief?

The idea that some comments should be 'secret', or not disclosed by those present is very odd. No chance of this happening anyway, but why make the comments in the first place if you're only happy for a few score fans to know about them?

 

50 minutes ago, Robin Ashton said:

So, those who went and aren't revealing the 'sensitive information' are officially ITK...

No not ITK or part of a select few.

The way things were put across was we are trusting you and we would like you to repay that trust. And I don't see a problem with that. Hardly anything groundbreaking anyways.

It was nice they did that as it shows what sort of people they are. 

I'd be frustrated if I didn't attend as would want to know but at the same token I would also understand these tiny snippets were said in confidence. 

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41 minutes ago, EmersonsRed said:

Evidence we're in the right hands, or that I've been saying it all along?

Personally I think that's a tad  OTT Emerson's

I think some get carried away at either end of the scale , I have

Just my opinion - I think we are a bit like a racing car that's been prepared and we are just off the grid waiting to see how the engine and set up is going to actually perform

i can see , for various reasons why SL appointed and has stuck with Lee and even I can start to see that if he continues to learn quickly and progresses the journey could be quite exciting 

He could also still crash and burn in the short term

If I'm honest - I still  don't take to MA - I'm sure that he is ideal with dealing with agents - In sure he'd be a very successful agent himself - I hope that he doesn't have too much influence in a lot of the footballing matters , Spends too much time selling up his own credentials for me

Recruitment still concerns me - the question of have we a head of restlruitnent wasn't answered , LJ did refer to Mervyn Day at one moment

It appeared that LJ is prominent in identifying targets (The story of Elliasson was interesting) which wasn't the original plan as I understand 

MA alluded to our recruitment set up had changed but didn't go into detail - My hunchbis that MA and LJ have been forgingnon themselves together with the analytical department

The last summers recruitment has been focused and the best of Lees three IMHO

Is this  because Lee himself is driving the recruitment ?

MA talks well , but you ending up listening without learning anything and I hope his knowledge and help to Lee is as good as his words

In contrast Lee , certainly recently , comes across as genuine , and honest 

If I had to back MA or LJ I know which one I'd back !

Im very much jury's out with Lee but going upwards in my belief in him

He certainly won't fail  through lack of desire or effort

Ultimately he has to show some progression / consistency with performances and points now for me , not ripping up the Championship - just clear signs that we are stabalising and progressing  

Hes has all the tools , toys , backing , plenty of recruitment ,and the coaching staff he wanted

Hes managed to survive the errors and problems of last season and in theory should be wiser and better prepared this time round with lessons apparently learned across the whole set up

i like what we are doing / trying to do with our U23 recruitment , we just need to start heading in the right direction with the first team 

He has a clear ethos / plan / way of playing in his head and having a plan and following is a good base

Whether it's a good plan or are recruitment successfully correlates with that ethos , only results will tell us

Lee clearly believes in his ethos and believes we are close to being successful with it - Again only time and results will tell whether he's excitingly correct or naive / misguided

:fingerscrossed: 

Interesting / exciting times if nothing else !

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35 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

Thanks

:facepalm:

Says it all that I'd forgotten about him !!!!

I bet the day he went into training without those two he felt twice as relaxed and had a smile on his face 

Think they should also take a 'due diligence' slap though - I expressed concerns over LT when we were looking like signing him permanently and that was merely what I'd read and heard about him as a football fan

They are professionally employed in the game and have hundreds of contacts and sources available to them

They made a bad call / gamble on both LT and AM and if I'm honest I thougt the fan influence mention was either a very honest admission of their mistakes or an attempt to dilute the blame - to be fair it was a brief mention and difficult to ascertain which

Thing is fans would have slaughtered them for not bringing Tomlin back after how well his loan spell went, I think most fans can accept why we bought him and was just a case we didn't get the same player we had on loan. 

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8 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

Personally I think that's a tad  OTT Emerson's

I think some get carried away at either end of the scale , I have

Just my opinion - I think we are a bit like a racing car that's been prepared and we are just off the grid waiting to see how the engine and set up is going to actually perform

i can see , for various reasons why SL appointed and has stuck with Lee and even I can start to see that if he continues to learn quickly and progresses the journey could be quite exciting 

He could also still crash and burn in the short term

If I'm honest - I still  don't take to MA - I'm sure that he is ideal with dealing with agents - In sure he'd be a very successful agent himself - I hope that he doesn't have too much influence in a lot of the footballing matters , Spends too much time selling up his own credentials for me

Recruitment still concerns me - the question of have we a head of restlruitnent wasn't answered , LJ did refer to Mervyn Day at one moment

It appeared that LJ is prominent in identifying targets (The story of Elliasson was interesting) which wasn't the original plan as I understand 

MA alluded to our recruitment set up had changed but didn't go into detail - My hunchbis that MA and LJ have been forgingnon themselves together with the analytical department

The last summers recruitment has been focused and the best of Lees three IMHO

Is this  because Lee himself is driving the recruitment ?

MA talks well , but you ending up listening without learning anything and I hope his knowledge and help to Lee is as good as his words

In contrast Lee , certainly recently , comes across as genuine , and honest 

If I had to back MA or LJ I know which one I'd back !

Im very much jury's out with Lee but going upwards in my belief in him

He certainly won't fail  through lack of desire or effort

Ultimately he has to show some progression / consistency with performances and points now for me , not ripping up the Championship - just clear signs that we are stabalising and progressing  

Hes has all the tools , toys , backing , plenty of recruitment ,and the coaching staff he wanted

Hes managed to survive the errors and problems of last season and in theory should be wiser and better prepared this time round with lessons apparently learned across the whole set up

i like what we are doing / trying to do with our U23 recruitment , we just need to start heading in the right direction with the first team 

He has a clear ethos / plan / way of playing in his head and having a plan and following is a good base

Whether it's a good plan or are recruitment successfully correlates with that ethos , only results will tell us

Lee clearly believes in his ethos and believes we are close to being successful with it - Again only time and results will tell whether he's excitingly correct or naive / misguided

:fingerscrossed: 

Interesting / exciting times if nothing else !

Is this something that can be divulged, or something the club wanted to be kept off social media?

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3 minutes ago, hodge said:

Thing is fans would have slaughtered them for not bringing Tomlin back after how well his loan spell went, I think most fans can accept why we bought him and was just a case we didn't get the same player we had on loan. 

Have to be honest I wouldn't have signed him hodge , but accept I was in a sceptical minority , and agree the noise had we not signed him and then struggled

maybe whatever we financially with Tomlin might be money / a lesson well lost / learnt in the long run

You get a definite vibe that we are now following the due diligence / right DNA philosophy rather than just talking about it which I think may have been the case  

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On a broader note.

Thanks to those who did go for letting us know what they can.

 

Yes, it's a little frustrating that some information is witheld at the clubs request, but the fact those on here who went have gone with that means the club will be more likely to do such an event again, even if it is only once or twice a season. 

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11 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

Have to be honest I wouldn't have signed him hodge , but accept I was in a sceptical minority , and agree the noise had we not signed him and then struggled

maybe whatever we financially with Tomlin might be money / a lesson well lost / learnt in the long run

You get a definite vibe that we are now following the due diligence / right DNA philosophy rather than just talking about it which I think may have been the case  

Agree, I never really warmed to Tomlin. I thought he came across as rather stupid and I hated all his ridiculous teasing tweets 'if everyone buys a Loyal Love hat, I'll sign' which people actually took seriously..

All those interviews where he jokes about replacing Flint as the 'face of Bristol' might have actually had more significance in hindsight. I got the impression he saw himself as a much bigger player than the club.

I made allowances for that because I thought his talent was just about worth it - but in hindsight it was a poor decision to sign him.

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6 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

Have to be honest I wouldn't have signed him hodge , but accept I was in a sceptical minority , and agree the noise had we not signed him and then struggled

maybe whatever we financially with Tomlin might be money / a lesson well lost / learnt in the long run

You get a definite vibe that we are now following the due diligence / right DNA philosophy rather than just talking about it which I think may have been the case  

What I found interesting was the building a team of the season from the in the scouting software, question would be are these players, Knockaert for example the players who come out top once we've applied the filters to the data for key performance indicators we're looking for or a type of player LJ is interested in etc.  

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Against Huddersfield while he was on loan, after that wonder goal the all stadium was singing sign him on, so would have been real out cry if we didn't sign him on 

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27 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said:

Is this something that can be divulged, or something the club wanted to be kept off social media?

I don't think it's sensitive James and was going to cover it when I typed up my notes but in essence LJ explained that he was sat in bed in his lap top , looking for a Knockhart type player who he had wide right in his chosen Championship eleven

The software they use will look at Knockhart and throw up similar players (Totally football manager like) in a list with name , age , club , etc

Using Knockhart attributes  up came amongst a list incl players at top European Clubs and way out our league was Elliasson ( And interestingly Jamie Patterson)

Lee explains he then uses Scoutmaster ? Software to call up 8 mins or so clips of a Elliasson 

Likes what he saw , gets the analysyst to look at him - They go through 10-12 games analysing and clipping every touch

They then give this to Lee who consults JM / DH etc

Lee likes the look and contacts Mervin Day to get 'eyes on'

All agree with LJ , LJ gets Elliasson watched in person , incl hy himself 

Initial queries made about availability / price / would player be interested

MA suggested we got Elliasson because we got two weeks ahead of the market on this one 

Appeared  to have been a process instigated and driven by Lee himself , literally started sat in bed on his lap top , albeit with consultation and use of others views and data etc through the process

 

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3 minutes ago, hodge said:

What I found interesting was the building a team of the season from the in the scouting software, question would be are these players, Knockaert for example the players who come out top once we've applied the filters to the data for key performance indicators we're looking for or a type of player LJ is interested in etc.  

May be crossed wires as I wasnt there, but from another post I got the impression LJ put down what he thought was the best 11 in the Championship, and used the scouting software to find similar from that, rather than building the best team from the software (apologies if I misread your post).

So Knockaert was the best in his position in LJs opinion, so a search was conducted using what was known about him style and attribute wise, which is where Eliasson cropped up.

 

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3 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said:

May be crossed wires as I wasnt there, but from another post I got the impression LJ put down what he thought was the best 11 in the Championship, and used the scouting software to find similar from that, rather than building the best team from the software (apologies if I misread your post).

So Knockaert was the best in his position in LJs opinion, so a search was conducted using what was known about him style and attribute wise, which is where Eliasson cropped up.

 

Would be going against the grain then, most clubs use the recruitment/scouting software to find players who fit their style or find players ie strikers who match the KPI's their looking for such as conversion rate, shots on target etc and then look at the players who come out on top once the filters have been applied. 

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1 hour ago, EmersonsRed said:

Evidence we're in the right hands, or that I've been saying it all along?

Evidence is that your faith is justified, I hope it is.

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12 minutes ago, SDBS36 said:

Against Huddersfield while he was on loan, after that wonder goal the all stadium was singing sign him on, so would have been real out cry if we didn't sign him on 

Yes, but they could easily have said something like 'his wage demands were too great, he wanted £30k a week and we weren't going to pay that' then everyone would have understood.

But sometimes you just have to make the mistakes to learn how to do the right things. I doubt if we will get caught like that again anytime soon.

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1 hour ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

I agree the club is in a healthy position - thanks to Lansdown's largesse. I agree his strategies are now being implemented thanks to all his management employees "singing from the same hymn sheet".

This is all much better than most of the 40 odd years I've been watching. 

But whether these strategies and all this polished talk actually bear fruit on the football pitch... well, I'll wait and see.

Can we finally become a solid, competitive, serious Championship side? We've not managed that since the mid 1970s. I have my doubts about the ability of the current coaching and playing staff to achieve that but will be very happy if those doubts prove to be misplaced.

Here's hoping.  

 

We are all hoping for consistent positive results but as you say whether LJ is the right man to deliver, only time will tell.

That said, I'm encouraged by the improved infrastructure and staffing structure within AG  and I can't ever remember having that feeling before.

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20 minutes ago, hodge said:

What I found interesting was the building a team of the season from the in the scouting software, question would be are these players, Knockaert for example the players who come out top once we've applied the filters to the data for key performance indicators we're looking for or a type of player LJ is interested in etc.  

I took itv(And just my understanding / interpretation) that

Lee knows how he wants to play 

Then picks his ideal eleven at Champuonship Level - from what he wants / likes in a player in the various positions he wants to improve

He then calls up Knockhart and then uses the software to find similar matches in attributes 

(Rather than inputting attributes settings / filters to identify players -(though he may tinker with this as well) -  he uses Knockhart as a template basically )

He will also know what attributes he wants prioritises and can then filter out from the list or by common sense (i.e. Players status / current club / wages)

Quite simple really - very football manager - the list that came up included some real 'names' who are way out of our league even in our dreams - Elliasson appeared to be an obvious one to have a nose at because of where he was playing , his age and relatively low value

Of course that is only the start of a process and it appears s that due diligence , even looking at whether player has a wife / girlfriend , social media use etc all being looked at

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2 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

I took itv(And just my understanding / interpretation) that

Lee knows how he wants to play 

Then picks his ideal eleven at Champuonship Level - from what he wants / likes in a player in the various positions he wants to improve

He then calls up Knockhart and then uses the software to find similar matches in attributes 

(Rather than inputting attributes settings / filters to identify players -(though he may tinker with this as well) -  he uses Knockhart as a template basically )

Quite simple really - very football manager - the list that came up included some real 'names' who are way out of our league even in our dreams - Elliasson appeared to be an obvious one to have a nose at because of where he was playing , his age and relatively low value

Of course that is only the start of a process and it appears s that due diligence , even looking at whether player has a wife / girlfriend , social media use etc all being looked at

Fair enough, interesting approach and does leave a lot to be done in due diligence to make sure they are the same type of player. And yes all sorts goes into players when recruiting them, you have a huge list of non performance data that teams look at, do they speak the language, what are they like in the dressing room (if you know someone who has played with them), attitude on the training ground, where are they from, do they have any immediate family near your club etc. Clubs may not go through all of it but you can guarantee lots of clubs will go through a checklist that includes some or most, as you said with social media some players get a tick if they have a lot of followers and are active as it will then help promote the club. 

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7 minutes ago, hodge said:

Fair enough, interesting approach and does leave a lot to be done in due diligence to make sure they are the same type of player. And yes all sorts goes into players when recruiting them, you have a huge list of non performance data that teams look at, do they speak the language, what are they like in the dressing room (if you know someone who has played with them), attitude on the training ground, where are they from, do they have any immediate family near your club etc. Clubs may not go through all of it but you can guarantee lots of clubs will go through a checklist that includes some or most,

as you said with social media some players get a tick if they have a lot of followers and are active as it will then help promote the club. 

But more to do with getting a vibe about the player , their interests , priorities and lifestyle

If you have Instagram - have a look at Pisanos

Comes across that he has two massive passions that totally dominate his life

His wife and children

and his football -

Looking at his page says so much about him

Tick

Tick

Tick

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3 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

But more to do with getting a vibe about the player , their interests , priorities and lifestyle

If you have Instagram - have a look at Pisanos

Comes across that he has two massive passions that totally dominate his life

His wife and children

and his football -

Looking at his page says so much about him

Tick

Tick

Tick

That's interesting - did they use him as an example? We'd never sign JET now based on that!

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11 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said:

That's interesting - did they use him as an example? We'd never sign JET now based on that!

No they just mentioned even looking at any social media

Been noticing Pisanos really nice posts (Think latest is thanking supporters and over the International break it was all his obvious pride / love for his family with days out and his daughters first day at school)

Comes across as a top bloke

Spookily I chatted to JM about him and JM  was full of good words about him as a player and character - said when he met him he told LJ 'We've got to sign him) 

Says he's good to have around the squad and his type gives us a robustness as he loves a challenge ! But then  we'd noticed that ! :laughcont:

Pisano keeps saying 'it's so f****^* fast' (The Championship) with a big grin on his face !!

Great signing by looks and sounds of it !

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3 hours ago, RedM said:

Yes, but they could easily have said something like 'his wage demands were too great, he wanted £30k a week and we weren't going to pay that' then everyone would have understood.

But sometimes you just have to make the mistakes to learn how to do the right things. I doubt if we will get caught like that again anytime soon.

True but with what looked like low price signings everyone was waiting that one marquee signing

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3 hours ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

I don't think it's sensitive James and was going to cover it when I typed up my notes but in essence LJ explained that he was sat in bed in his lap top , looking for a Knockhart type player who he had wide right in his chosen Championship eleven

The software they use will look at Knockhart and throw up similar players (Totally football manager like) in a list with name , age , club , etc

Using Knockhart attributes  up came amongst a list incl players at top European Clubs and way out our league was Elliasson ( And interestingly Jamie Patterson)

Lee explains he then uses Scoutmaster ? Software to call up 8 mins or so clips of a Elliasson 

Likes what he saw , gets the analysyst to look at him - They go through 10-12 games analysing and clipping every touch

They then give this to Lee who consults JM / DH etc

Lee likes the look and contacts Mervin Day to get 'eyes on'

All agree with LJ , LJ gets Elliasson watched in person , incl hy himself 

Initial queries made about availability / price / would player be interested

MA suggested we got Elliasson because we got two weeks ahead of the market on this one 

Appeared  to have been a process instigated and driven by Lee himself , literally started sat in bed on his lap top , albeit with consultation and use of others views and data etc through the process

 

Where as Neil Warnock knows what it takes to get out of this league and uses his knowledge and experience. 

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6 hours ago, cityfan said:

The most impressive thing about last night was Lee Johnson.

He is very affable, engaging, relaxed, humorous and in my opinion, very detailed and knowledgeable on the game.  I think City were right to keep him in his job last year and he appears to me, the consummate professional with a wise head on his shoulders. I'm sure he knows how to deal with the players as well as the press. You only had to listen to him and some of the situational events he used as examples to understand this.

There was a lot of discussion around risk/reward in the decision making process and a significant amount around data to help improve the decision making process, prior to watching a player and then sitting down with a player to see if indeed, they are a good fit for the club.  It struck me how much football is now business, not just at board level as is always spoken about, but definitely at Manager and Assistant Manager level and with the coaching staff too. His role is developing fast and if he was in industry, outside of football, then you would say that his knowledge and ability to deliver is high.  Clearly the managers role has changed tremendously over the last 5+ years and the commitment and understanding required to execute this job is immense.  Equally, he is lucky (if that is the right word) to be able to perform this role in what I think is a very exciting work place with serious headroom for upside and a massive amount of personal satisfaction.  What a great job to have!

He is a young man (36) and in my eyes is 100% a good fit for the clubs aspirations going forward and the way those aspirations are being channelled. I hope they run these events quarterly as it was a very interesting forum and educational too.  You come away with appreciation and recognition which is far better than just moaning about results.  Few people in life win all of the time.

Had City wanted the nearest thing to a guarantee for success then they should have hired Neil Warnock when Lee's father lost his job. There is no denying Warnock's success rate, but I am assuming that personalities didn't gel even though Warnock publicly declared he would liked to manage City.  Would that have mattered though for a £100 million Premier League Jackpot?

Regardless and as with all business, it is a journey and progression in line with expectation, opportunity and reality is the name of the game. Lee Johnson in charge, based on what I observed last night, looks like progression to me.

 

I still think we should have appointed Warnock after Cotterill. We could have brought someone like Johnson in to develop with him. 

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6 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said:

One has to wonder what the real point in it is though PF, when only 50 people turn up. Is it even worth the time of LJ/MA? I remember Lansdown and GJ doing a couple in the Dolman exhibition hall where several hundred people attended. What exactly is the benefit in a q & a which is barely publicised beforehand and then receives little or no media attention afterwards, therefore we are relying on being told by those that were there what happened. Why was the rugby one streamed on social media but not ours? There has always been live tweeting from Adam of the previous ones with SC, SOD etc... 

I'm afraid it does come across a little as simply a box ticking exercise. Or possibly protecting the current manager from being exposed?

To be honest @Kid in the Riot I was disappointed in the numbers and disappointed in myself for not turning up. I didn't go purely because I thought it would be too busy and difficult to get involved. Hopefully the good  feedback on here will encourgae more people to  a similar event, they may have tried to control numbers by the way it was advertised. There is a group of supporters on here though who constantly claim  that the club is not communicative with the average fan, so I think the club should be applauded for using any forum they can to improve that image.

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3 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said:

He's still here. And was at the event last night.

He should have been leading the event and there would have been relevant questioins forwarded.

50 odd people will be used as an excuse to close the event down. Should never be an event.

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6 hours ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

;)

Likewise your good summary and good explanations about the slides and video have been fairvand well made - 

What struck me last night is the non public story of last season would make a very interesting read - the off pitch issues clearly had a marked effect and combined with obvious mistakes which , I've noticed LJ is beginning to recognise and address (Mentioned again last night about 'over coaching') may explain the mid season car crash

I came away believing that he desperately wants to succeed and will do everything he can to do so (I do wonder whether all the 'toys' complicate matters at times , especially as a young learning manager)

I'm not totally sold that we have all the right staff to maximise both coaching and recruitment to make the plan / ethos a success but we are trying to follow a plan professionally 

I also came away thinking that JMs appointment (Which I was very sceptical of) was actually a very good one that seems to have had a positive effect for Lee

I do have the feeling that it may not be any middle ground with Lee - You can see that because he's young and keen to utilise modern technology and , I'd suggest still on a massive learning curve , that if he hangs in there and develops any progress may be quite exciting and suddenly hit some heights

I can still see there is a chance that he may crash and burn before that but I dont see 5 yrs mediocrity with him - think it may be one or other !!!! 

Im certainly curious about the revolution and modernisation of the club 

The harsh reality though lies in results and think we will all know where we are, on the pitch in another ten games or so

Couldn't make last night but reading this I wish I could. Fair to say you have been very unconvinced by him in the past. He must have been really convincing last night. Shame if it doesn't get broadcast as it could do him wonders. 

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20 hours ago, shelts said:

Really enjoyed tonight . Massive thank you to the club for putting on the night. More of a feel for what the club are trying to achieve and the way they have to go about it. All four spoke very well as you'd expect. 

Not really, I met Dean Holden at the Bath Half Marathon and he came across as awkward, shy and not very confident. Mind you I think we'd lost just about every game since he arrived at the time so no wonder his confidence was low. 

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16 minutes ago, bristolcitysweden said:

People not really interested don't need an event.

The next one is in Sweden! Maybe at your house Tommy? :) 

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I would loved to have gone but I'm laid up a long way from Brizz. Whatever people think short of SL that was a good turnout by the club, hopefully next time the room will be packed. 

As much as I was peed off by the events of last season there are signs of a brighter future. The notable kids are making impacts and I fully expect to see a couple back in January.

the AF situation is dead for now and we can all concentrate on the league if you can pardon the pun. 

Was the secret information that we are going to win tomorrow ?

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18 minutes ago, bristolcitysweden said:

People not really interested don't need an event.

You keep saying this despite people explaining the reasons they couldn't attend. I had family commitments, hope that was a good enough reason for you and I bet I'm not alone. Work, travel, illness are all valid reasons too. Do you really think people who spend a lot if time on here aren't interested in the club? 

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17 minutes ago, redapple said:

Not really, I met Dean Holden at the Bath Half Marathon and he came across as awkward, shy and not very confident. Mind you I think we'd lost just about every game since he arrived at the time so no wonder his confidence was low. 

I wasn't at the Bath half so can't comment . Last night he did what he had to do and came across well. Quite obvious the wrong setting for him, chatting at the end he was far more relaxed 

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4 minutes ago, RedM said:

You keep saying this despite people explaining the reasons they couldn't attend. I had family commitments, hope that was a good enough reason for you and I bet I'm not alone. Work, travel, illness are all valid reasons too. Do you really think people who spend a lot if time on here aren't interested in the club? 

People did not turn up because they new it was a politically correct rigged up event. With Adam Baker as moderator it would have been given a go.

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9 minutes ago, bristolcitysweden said:

People did not turn up because they new it was a politically correct rigged up event. With Adam Baker as moderator it would have been given a go.

I love your niche interests - a desire to live specifically on a 'steep' street and a deep admiration for Adam Baker

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I think it's a disgrace that this event clashed with The Flyers first pre-season friendly! :P

Its the kind of event I'd have like to go to.  Interestingly the Flyers Season Card holders have an event on Monday to introduce the players, sponsors etc.  I'm gonna go to that.

Thanks to all who went and shared the Q&A in some great detail.  I like that some of you gave been very honest, because I know your views!

Perhaps the small attendance helped the evening?  Well done you bunch who took the time and effort.

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2 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said:

Could you make the text a bit bigger, I couldnt read it :thumbsup:

You're going to be popular :whistle: !

:laughcont:

And you may realise in a few decades how helpful large text can be :P

:ill:

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12 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

You're going to be popular :whistle: !

:laughcont:

And you may realise in a few decades how helpful large text can be :P

:ill:

Your post (and my quote) take up half the page on my phone, and about a minute to scroll through. Oops.

 

Looking forward to the rest :laughcont:

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