Fordy62 Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 Now, let me start by saying that I hope this thread goes down in fokelore alongside "Matt Smith is awful". I suppose part of me decided to write it at half time because I'm hoping it might come back to bite me on the arse. However, I'm into watching my third or forth game this season and I've seen Fammy do nothing. Nothing at all. It's almost like we're playing with ten. Now I know it's going to take time for him to adapt to the Chamionship, but we can't just keep playing with essentially 10 men. Someone else has got to have a go at starting. He isn't effecting the game at all. He's not doing the running that Taylor does, or being a big lump like Đurić (I do accept they're both injured!). So he big question is... a storming second half versus Reading aside, when will LJ have the balls to rest him? by the way, I'm certainly not writing him off, merely suggesting he's earned the right to be dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Grim Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 Shock horror, another big fee paid that looks like it isn't going to work out. Lansdown really has got money to burn hasn't he. Yes I realise early days, but I wouldn't pay a million for him on current form. Come on score so I can eat some humble pie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayOutWest Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, BCFC Grim said: Come on score so I can eat some humble pie. Does more than just score. He is putting himself about and tying to link up play. He looks a bit isolated up top. But compare like for like. I don't think Famara, is playing any worse or better than Bobby Reid. Or Patterson, Or Smith, Or Brownhill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 13 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: Now, let me start by saying that I hope this thread goes down in fokelore alongside "Matt Smith is awful". I suppose part of me decided to write it at half time because I'm hoping it might come back to bite me on the arse. However, I'm into watching my third or forth game this season and I've seen Fammy do nothing. Nothing at all. It's almost like we're playing with ten. Now I know it's going to take time for him to adapt to the Chamionship, but we can't just keep playing with essentially 10 men. Someone else has got to have a go at starting. He isn't effecting the game at all. He's not doing the running that Taylor does, or being a big lump like Đurić (I do accept they're both injured!). So he big question is... a storming second half versus Reading aside, when will LJ have the balls to rest him? by the way, I'm certainly not writing him off, merely suggesting he's earned the right to be dropped. I think he does a lot that doesnt appear in the stats we see. There have been a couple of goals scored that came from his pressure forcing an error, someone else capitalises and Diedhiou doesnt get the goal or assist, but plays an important part. That said he could have probably contributed a bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 Well obviously he needs more time to be fully judged, and I know you're not writing him off. There's definitely a case to rest him but I think the management want to break him in quickly, partly down to a lack of options. LJ discussed him during the QnA and said, like Kodjia, it will take him a while to adapt. With his fee he was always going to come under scrutiny. Think our system lends itself to forwards getting a bit isolated unless we're dominating. Would like to see him in a 433 with Eliasson and Leko eventually, might get the best out of him. Hopefully lots more to come from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 19 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: Now, let me start by saying that I hope this thread goes down in fokelore alongside "Matt Smith is awful". I suppose part of me decided to write it at half time because I'm hoping it might come back to bite me on the arse. However, I'm into watching my third or forth game this season and I've seen Fammy do nothing. Nothing at all. It's almost like we're playing with ten. Now I know it's going to take time for him to adapt to the Chamionship, but we can't just keep playing with essentially 10 men. Someone else has got to have a go at starting. He isn't effecting the game at all. He's not doing the running that Taylor does, or being a big lump like Đurić (I do accept they're both injured!). So he big question is... a storming second half versus Reading aside, when will LJ have the balls to rest him? by the way, I'm certainly not writing him off, merely suggesting he's earned the right to be dropped. Sadly it's become an all to familiar story with this manager. He has wasted so much money on players it's hard to believe. He has to be the most well supported manager financially in our history and he has done absolutely nothing to improve this squad. He really is a poor forward. Even players who need time to bed in show some signs of making an impression... I've seen nothing so far from this guy that says to me he will become a player worth £5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 It's a bit of a worry . Needs a couple of goal. Taking time to settle maybe too long for some . Kodja settled in quicker so people will draw comparisons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted September 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 I think it's fair to say that LJ has a big decision to make. A big one, but I'd say it was an easy one We saw more from Leko in 5 minutes that we've seen from Fammy for many games. I just hope he has the humility to start Leko and ignore Fammy's price tag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distortia Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 Too early to judge IMO. He's also displayed that he's a talented footballer, despite the fact he doesn't look a 'natural goalscorer'. We aren't struggling for goals as a team which is the main thing, as he contributes well for the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 He didn't really get a full pre-season because international commitments and when I have seen him he has looked "leggy". I think he will come good, but of course the usual suspects will say he is a waste of money because Lee Johnson signed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayOutWest Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 50 minutes ago, Andy082005 said: Sadly it's become an all to familiar story with this manager. He has wasted so much money on players it's hard to believe. He has to be the most well supported manager financially in our history and he has done absolutely nothing to improve this squad. Sorry Andy, completely disagree. This is the first time, I think this squad looks comfortable at this level. We have competition for all positions on the field, we have options on the bench. 3 points, clean sheet and we look like we belong in this league. Stevo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxo Jr. Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 If a player plays very well in another league and then struggles in a similar league, it doesn't mean the player is worse. There's a multitude of things that could be going wrong - he might not be settled yet, he might not be getting enough service, he might not have enough fitness yet, and still getting used to how to play against defenders in this league. To call him a waste of money now is downright stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie BCFC Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Fordy62 said: Now, let me start by saying that I hope this thread goes down in fokelore alongside "Matt Smith is awful". I suppose part of me decided to write it at half time because I'm hoping it might come back to bite me on the arse. However, I'm into watching my third or forth game this season and I've seen Fammy do nothing. Nothing at all. It's almost like we're playing with ten. Now I know it's going to take time for him to adapt to the Chamionship, but we can't just keep playing with essentially 10 men. Someone else has got to have a go at starting. He isn't effecting the game at all. He's not doing the running that Taylor does, or being a big lump like Đurić (I do accept they're both injured!). So he big question is... a storming second half versus Reading aside, when will LJ have the balls to rest him? by the way, I'm certainly not writing him off, merely suggesting he's earned the right to be dropped. An interesting one. I think he does put a lot of work in and hold up play from what I've seen is good. However for £5m you'd expect him to score more and set up a couple more considering his playing style. I still think it's too early to judge so will see in a couple of months and see what he does in the coming games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 Give the guy chance for goodness sake. He ain't a Kodjia or Abraham - has other attributes which are supporting a half-decent start to the season!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antman Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 i think we have yet to figure out how to play to his strengths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastred Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Fordy62 said: Now, let me start by saying that I hope this thread goes down in fokelore alongside "Matt Smith is awful". I suppose part of me decided to write it at half time because I'm hoping it might come back to bite me on the arse. However, I'm into watching my third or forth game this season and I've seen Fammy do nothing. Nothing at all. It's almost like we're playing with ten. Now I know it's going to take time for him to adapt to the Chamionship, but we can't just keep playing with essentially 10 men. Someone else has got to have a go at starting. He isn't effecting the game at all. He's not doing the running that Taylor does, or being a big lump like Đurić (I do accept they're both injured!). So he big question is... a storming second half versus Reading aside, when will LJ have the balls to rest him? by the way, I'm certainly not writing him off, merely suggesting he's earned the right to be dropped. I totally agree i was unimpressed with him pre season and I thought he was awful against Brentford, especially when he was paying so deep and out of position he was almost playing left back at times! I appreciate he needs time to get used to the pace and aggression of the league compared to France, however unlike Tammy and dare I say it Kodja, he doesn't appear to quickly learn and adapt in order to succeed I really want to be wrong and I'm hoping he will come good, because a £5m dud isn't something we can afford .....I will get my tin hat!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 We win away at Reading, so some people have to find something to moan about! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted September 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: We win away at Reading, so some people have to find something to moan about! So you disagree we looked completely lightweight up front until Leko came on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 I said this maybe Villa game but I don't see the hold up play some of you are talking about. Sure he does it from time to time but I think Bobby does this better at the moment. Fam has to work on his close control. Loses it in tight spaces. Add that to the lack of even being in the position to score and I'm a bit worried. Not writing him off because I'm sure he's a good player. He wouldn't have gotten this far if he wasn't. Also fair enough I think he offers a presence when on the pitch. Defenders definitely worries about him. That was clear when he came off. Just feel he needs to keep grinding because the league is unforgiving. Hopefully by games 11-12 he'll start figuring it out. Any longer than that and it's more than a worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie BCFC Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: So you disagree we looked completely lightweight up front until Leko came on? Tbf Diedhiou is a tank so maybe not lightweight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, Antman said: i think we have yet to figure out how to play to his strengths. Question is - what are his strengths? For a solid guy he doesn't use is build and strength effectively enough. He's not a speedster either and ( as yet) doesn't seem to have a goal poachers sixth sense. He's played six games and hasn't impressed so far but I doubt LJ will leave him out yet. He'll get 10 games I reckon by which time Taylor might be fit again, That said if he bags a goal or two on Tuesday all will be forgiven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 11 minutes ago, Loosey Boy said: Give the guy chance for goodness sake. He ain't a Kodjia or Abraham - has other attributes which are supporting a half-decent start to the season!!! Your not welcome on otib if you don't have a knee jerk reaction after a few games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 6 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said: I said this maybe Villa game but I don't see the hold up play some of you are talking about. Sure he does it from time to time but I think Bobby does this better at the moment. Fam has to work on his close control. Loses it in tight spaces. Add that to the lack of even being in the position to score and I'm a bit worried. Not writing him off because I'm sure he's a good player. He wouldn't have gotten this far if he wasn't. Also fair enough I think he offers a presence when on the pitch. Defenders definitely worries about him. That was clear when he came off. Just feel he needs to keep grinding because the league is unforgiving. Hopefully by games 11-12 he'll start figuring it out. Any longer than that and it's more than a worry. I agree. I remember fondly the days when we used to complain of our strikers missing chances. A key worry for me is Fammy is not even getting those. He is kind a jack of all trades at the moment up front, but not really master of any of them; running the channels, holding up play etc. Works hard for sure, and have to hope it comes good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, cityexile said: I agree. I remember fondly the days when we used to complain of our strikers missing chances. A key worry for me is Fammy is not even getting those. He is kind a jack of all trades at the moment up front, but not really master of any if them; running the channels, holding up play etc. Works hard for sure, and have to hope it comes good. A heskey sort of player you mean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Grim Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 7 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: So you disagree we looked completely lightweight up front until Leko came on? We won, therefore we can only look at the positives, no need to talk about areas that we need to improve on........duh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 I'll give my opinion when he's had time to adapt to his new surroundings and a different type of football to that played in France. By that I mean not making a judgement until about this time next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyolly Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 Definitely not after 6 league games that's for sure! He's shown great commitment, touches of skill and as others have said brings more to the team than being an out and ourt target man or goal scorer. I don't think LJ would have a problem resting him either if he thought it was the best thing for the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingswoodactor Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 Maybe he needs Eliasson and Leko bombing down the wings whipping in crosses? Probably more of a threat in the air? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsy62 Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 we are stronger at the back but not great up top we look like we can grind out results Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmersonsRed Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 11 minutes ago, Malago said: I'll give my opinion when he's had time to adapt to his new surroundings and a different type of football to that played in France. By that I mean not making a judgement until about this time next year. Those days are long gone, for footballers and managers. Instant impact is needed nowadays, especially when this sort of fee was paid for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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