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brizzlelou

Frank de Boer

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Story going around that he's now been sacked! Absurd! How can any manager be expected to make a change in 4 games when given nothing to Spend!? 

Expect Hodgson to come in with his youthful, continental style that Parish was oh so desperate for.

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Dead man walking along with Bilic although the Hammers have a track record of giving their managers some time . No goals and points isn't great for Palace and the season is still in it's infancy but how long do you give it with all the money that is at stake?

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, shelts said:

Dead man walking along with Bilic although the Hammers have a track record of giving their managers some time . No goals and points isn't great for Palace and the season is still in it's infancy but how long do you give it with all the money that is at stake?

 

 

 

Bilic is definitely the next to go. 

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poor start to the season, prem clubs are scared to death to go down now because of the huge money involved at the top of the game,

Roy will save them no doubt

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3 minutes ago, shelts said:

Just been sacked and Roy Hodgson confirmed tomorrow . Crazy times 

Wonder if he'll do a press conference in person.

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Stupid appointment and that is not just me saying it after the event.  Nothing wrong with trying to move to a better style of football and I admire the ambition but if you do it you HAVE to get the appointment correct.

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18 minutes ago, RedDave said:

Stupid appointment and that is not just me saying it after the event.  Nothing wrong with trying to move to a better style of football and I admire the ambition but if you do it you HAVE to get the appointment correct.

I think it was their orange chairman who said when Pardew was in charge (it can't have been Pulis or Allardyce) that they did try to change their footballing philosophy but struggled to adapt so switched back.  

Some clubs would be wiser to accept their lot at a certain level and play football accordingly.  Besides there's nothing shameful about defending well and hitting opponents fast on the break.  It is quite different to the Tony Pulis brand of football.  

Frank de Boer always seemed like a daft decision for Palace.

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Absolute joke - they didn't deserve to lose against Burnley !

If we were say 15 games into the season, they had 15-20 points on the board and they lost their last 4 matches - would he be sacked then?! I would guess not

Poor decision I think as he is a good young manager with plenty to offer. You don't see teams sacking players for starting poorly because they need time to adjust to a new league (Diedhou for example)

Like @Port Said Red has pointed out - I don't see how you can blame the manager for losing a game where statistically you were dominant but the players haven't done what they're paid to do in order to win the match. It's bonkers!

 

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Against Burnley there was one massive defensive cock up after 3 minutes and for the next 87 minutes they fluff their lines in front of goal over and over again. That's hardly De Boer's fault.

The best thing he can do now is join a new club and go on to have a successful career elsewhere.

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Just heard a Palace fan on TalkSport saying it was the right decision because they simply cannot afford to lose PL status and with no points and no goals the writing was on the wall.

Shortly after another Palace fan said it too early early to sack the manager and that the players had let him down.

Danny Murphy said that almost certainly the senior players would have been approached by the chairman for their view and maybe that was a big factor in the decision............

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Difficult one this one. Not the decision itself, but who to blame!

- De Boer for thinking he could play the Ajax way with the players at his disposal and one window, whilst realising the risk of not being able to change them overnight 

or 

- Parish for appointing a manager and falling for the "I can make Palace like Ajax" spiel. 

I wonder if De Boer will go to Ajax in a Jif(fy)!!!!!!

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Can't really see why you'd appoint someone with the brief of wholesale changing the way the club is run from top to bottom including the playing style and then only give them four games.  It's utterly insane and an admission that the board were not honest with themselves about what they wanted and the risks involved - that's incompetence on their part.  I hope they get relegated anyway, never like them.

 

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Get the feeling he tried doing too much over the course of one summer/window, still stupidly early however the first team to lose all 4 games without scoring since what, the 30's? Think Southampton go about manager appointments the best way, they have their philosophy and style of play and then look to appoint a manager who shares their outlook.

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Typical modern football mentality, four games in and they panic, if this bad run was mid season he would survive. Palace were dominant against Burnley, and unlucky....what am I talking about?... dislike them, hope they get relegated!!! 

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1 hour ago, shelts said:

Just been sacked and Roy Hodgson confirmed tomorrow . Crazy times 

Palace to go down, if Woy is the answer the question must be wrong.

whether you ageee or disagree about Johnson keeping his job last season it's a positive for our club that the board backs their man 

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1 hour ago, Super said:

5 games. Is that how long a manager gets these days?

Testimonial after 2 games, a gold watch after 4 and a pension after 5 games these days! :)

 

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7 minutes ago, BanburyRed said:

Can someone tell me the question where the right answer is considered to be Roy Hodgson?! Oh dear.

Which former Bristol city manager went on to have a very good career abroad but an underwhelming one in the U.K., including being poor for England and also gets ridiculed for a speech impediment?

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Lunacy. They're hardly premiership bigshots are they? Any team outside the top 4/5 can expect to lose 4 on the trot in that division at some point. Going by what I saw yesterday, some of the players need to leave, not the manager.

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Where is Steve Coppell

Shortest-serving full-time managers in English football
Name Games in charge Time in charge
Frank de Boer (Crystal Palace) 4 (2017) 77 days
Les Reed (Charlton) 7 (2006) 40 days
Bob Bradley (Swansea) 11 (2016) 84 days
Chris Hutchings (Bradford) 12 (2000) 141 days
Paolo di Canio (Sunderland) 12 (2013) 175 days

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41219627

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They battered Burnley by all accounts and watching the highlights they missed numerous sitters. You also cant allow for players making hopeless mistakes leading to goals

That said, he didnt have the players at his disposal to make such a big overhaul to their playing style - thats either completely niaive or he was under the impression he had the time to work with it.

To go and sack him and appoint Hodgson just makes Parish's comments silly. Palace for the drop IMO

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8 minutes ago, chowie said:

Where is Steve Coppell

Shortest-serving full-time managers in English football
Name Games in charge Time in charge
Frank de Boer (Crystal Palace) 4 (2017) 77 days
Les Reed (Charlton) 7 (2006) 40 days
Bob Bradley (Swansea) 11 (2016) 84 days
Chris Hutchings (Bradford) 12 (2000) 141 days
Paolo di Canio (Sunderland) 12 (2013) 175 days

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41219627

And where is Brian Clough (Leeds)?

Shoddy stats.

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37 minutes ago, chowie said:

Where is Steve Coppell

Shortest-serving full-time managers in English football
Name Games in charge Time in charge
Frank de Boer (Crystal Palace) 4 (2017) 77 days
Les Reed (Charlton) 7 (2006) 40 days
Bob Bradley (Swansea) 11 (2016) 84 days
Chris Hutchings (Bradford) 12 (2000) 141 days
Paolo di Canio (Sunderland) 12 (2013) 175 days

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41219627

 

29 minutes ago, Drew Peacock said:

And where is Brian Clough (Leeds)?

Shoddy stats.

These stats  are for the Premiership only

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1 hour ago, daored said:

Palace to go down, if Woy is the answer the question must be wrong.

whether you ageee or disagree about Johnson keeping his job last season it's a positive for our club that the board backs their man 

Time will tell with LJ. Must confess I like Woy 

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Roy Hodgson :blink:

Blimey that would cheer you up as A Palarse fan !!!

How uninspiring / depressing !!!

 

 

Still , not my favourite club ,so maybe getting what they deserve

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35 minutes ago, Drew Peacock said:

And where is Brian Clough (Leeds)?

Shoddy stats.

Pre 1992 that  though -  wasn't it

Football didn't actually start properly until 1992

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36 minutes ago, Drew Peacock said:

And where is Brian Clough (Leeds)?

Shoddy stats.

Ah, but Cloughie was at Leeds before proper football, i.e. the premier league, started.

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34 minutes ago, Super said:

You're going to have to go some to beat Leroy but that could be said about every record.  

With ever improving technology, training methods and education I believe that one day a manager in football will be out of his post in under ten minutes!

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41 minutes ago, Nibor said:

Can't really see why you'd appoint someone with the brief of wholesale changing the way the club is run from top to bottom including the playing style and then only give them four games.  It's utterly insane and an admission that the board were not honest with themselves about what they wanted and the risks involved - that's incompetence on their part.  I hope they get relegated anyway, never like them.

 

Another deluded London club.  Will hopefully be getting turned over by us soon on their way down to meet Charlton in League 1. 

 

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3 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Difficult one this one. Not the decision itself, but who to blame!

- De Boer for thinking he could play the Ajax way with the players at his disposal and one window, whilst realising the risk of not being able to change them overnight 

or 

- Parish for appointing a manager and falling for the "I can make Palace like Ajax" spiel. 

I wonder if De Boer will go to Ajax in a Jif(fy)!!!!!!

 

Get the cheque book out since he's already here in the UK and offer to make him in charge of the whole academy setup from top to bottom, with new training facilities hopefully being announced sometime soon, and a push to cat 1 status.  - soak up all the local talent and try to make BCFC a team with a number of local talent where people know they can come and have a good chance of first team football, good coaching even if it means using us as a stepping stone to better things.

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de Boer was hopelessly out if his depth in the premier league - also out of his depth in seria A.

I can't say I'm surprised he got his marching orders - no points or goals after his first four games on the trot?  

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