Fordy62 Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 5 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: One for @JulieH ? Allow me to answer for @JulieH. I'm not sure it's a fair question to ask her. It's a decision that's been made well above her rank and maybe if she were to give her truthful feelings on the matter, it could lead to some professional embarrassment both for her and those who made the decision. It seems a bizarre decision I don't recall seeing the likes of before. Very odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 **** me . If we played the rovers. Kick off would be 8am on a Monday morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stortz Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 6 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: One for @JulieH ? No doubt she'll come out with the usual bollocks to placate us, remember the Metrobus bullshit last season? The police did this to Everton and Liverpool recently iirc, the clubs told the police to do one and the game went ahead at 1730.Why are A+S able to dictate to us like this when Merseyside police- at a far bigger game- can't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 12 minutes ago, RedRaw said: Obviously Friday night's are 'Rozzers on the Razzle' night.......... They don't want to get their uniforms dirty stopping football fans fighting when they can perve at young women drunk down town on a Friday while sat in their vans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dollymarie Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 8 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said: Majority of people. How do you know that. It's been handled diabolically by the police. I was meaning on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beezey Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 I'm struggling to understand this, A&S can't provide enough PSU resources then why haven't they put it out for mutual aid from other forces. For those that don't know it's where other forces share resources and provide staff for key events. I'd love to know A&S reasoning for not back filling resources via mutual aid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 7 minutes ago, kivsy said: Very poor , if the West Midlands can handle villa, wolves, West Brom , Walsall etc. Plus all the visiting fans coming from all over the country ! Little Avon and Somerset can't cope with city v Cardiff. ? They have a lot more officers. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_police_forces_of_the_United_Kingdom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 4 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: Allow me to answer for @JulieH. I'm not sure it's a fair question to ask her. It's a decision that's been made well above her rank and maybe if she were to give her truthful feelings on the matter, it could lead to some professional embarrassment both for her and those who made the decision. It seems a bizarre decision I don't recall seeing the likes of before. Very odd. While respecting what you say. Perhaps the person who made the decision should be made embarrassed over it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 A Friday night game in dark November was always going to be harder to police given the friction between the two clubs. I guess other Police forces also Police Friday games, but maybe not between teams who really don't like eachother and with the added hassle of bonfire weekend too. I see Sky has now opted for Wolves v Fulham on that Friday instead, a much less risk match I would think. Im not sticking up for anyone here, I love Friday night games and hate noon ones, and the club has lost a lot of money but from a pure protection point of view, and that is the job of the Police, you can understand why they have made that decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 Obviously though because Bristol City Council and the SAG are a top secret organisation we can't hear the full reasoning. Mark Kelly: "Several of the points made at the recent extraordinary SAG meeting were hugely out of context and while we, both Ashton Gate Stadium and Bristol City, respect the input of the Police on matchdays, we feel this decision is wholly unnecessary." Let's hear it, @JulieH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 11 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: Allow me to answer for @JulieH. I'm not sure it's a fair question to ask her. It's a decision that's been made well above her rank and maybe if she were to give her truthful feelings on the matter, it could lead to some professional embarrassment both for her and those who made the decision. It seems a bizarre decision I don't recall seeing the likes of before. Very odd. Thanks. I think it's important for us to know, what we can. If she's hamstrung by those above, that's on them and not her. Ideally we would get a bit more explanation on the reasons why- let's see... @Robbored Yeah more than likely made by a bigwig. @Stortz Good question that. Hence why I reckon we should get some answers on it. @JamesBCFC Agree fully. Definitely seems unprecedented though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 8 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said: **** me . If we played the rovers. Kick off would be 8am on a Monday morning And on a Thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 This all smacks of a bit of political point scoring to me given the Government v Police dispute currently going on. A&S trying to prove a point whilst not risking any critical services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 For **** sake @Fordy62 ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, Vincent Vega said: And on a Thursday. Are there many Monday mornings on Thursdays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: Are there many Monday mornings on Thursdays? In the world of the A&S police force i believe there are 8 every month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 8 minutes ago, Dollymarie said: I was meaning on here Well Reading that I disagree with what you say about majority. Reading what the police lady said was quite interesting though. Either way it's a cock up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Grim Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 Bunch of clowns! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 8 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Thanks. I think it's important for us to know, what we can. If she's hamstrung by those above, that's on them and not her. Ideally we would get a bit more explanation on the reasons why- let's see... @Robbored Yeah more than likely made by a bigwig. @Stortz Good question that. Hence why I reckon we should get some answers on it. Definitely seems unprecedented though. We tend to be bound by our press offices on these things. I'd be surprised if she were any different. Especially on matters like this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 The police had already moved it from a 3pm KO to 12 noon, there was no way they would then agree to a 7.45pm Friday night was there. I personally think it should go back to 3pm and be done, although then I guess the original argument of drinking before the match and Policeing in the dark afterwards would stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 It'll be the usual bollocks from A&S police. "can't ensure safety" blah, blah......despite the club picking up the tab . Red Raw is right - Friday night is the police piss up night.........and those on duty ogling the pissed up babes in town..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTBLUE Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 Surely everone has noticed that at recent, bigger games shall we say,that we seem to be using Devon and Cornwall police to boost the police numbers at the games.I think I saw on the telly the other night that A and S have lost 750 police officers since 2011,so a bit of point scoring is obviously going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderingred Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 I hope that those living outside of the Bristol area haven't already made travel arrangements, or if they have they are able to make changes. How much money will this cost the club, now that it's not on sky? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 8 minutes ago, Robbored said: It'll be the usual bollocks from A&S police. "can't ensure safety" blah, blah......despite the club picking up the tab . Red Raw is right - Friday night is the police piss up night.........and those on duty ogling the pissed up babes in town..... Not standing up for the changes and farce and some views expressed by posters on here ,but But - after your. 'usual B******s' big statement the (usual) incorrect / inaccurate 'b******x' from you The Club only 'Pick up the tab' for officers deployed inside the stadium , not the ones delpoyes outside and in City Centre to prevent or react to disorder If you're going to come out with profound criticism, at least get your facts right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 I don't know why everyone is having a go at Avon & Somerset Police they are a highly reputable force IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 12 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: We tend to be bound by our press offices on these things. I'd be surprised if she were any different. Especially on matters like this! Fair enough, that kind of figures. Would be nice to get a reaction/better explanation but I fear what you say will come to pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanemochi Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 27 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said: **** me . If we played the rovers. Kick off would be 8am on a Monday morning Or behind closed doors. Joke of a decision from A&S police Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 11 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: I don't know why everyone is having a go at Avon & Somerset Police they are a highly reputable force IMO Wrong. They're a bunch of clowns... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 14 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Not standing up for the changes and farce and some views expressed by posters on here ,but But - after your. 'usual B******s' big statement the (usual) incorrect / inaccurate 'b******x' from you The Club only 'Pick up the tab' for officers deployed inside the stadium , not the ones delpoyes outside and in City Centre to prevent or react to disorder If you're going to come out with profound criticism, at least get your facts right Bob......wtf are you on about? Do still believe that the club didn't receive all those letters of apology?........jeez... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 14 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Not standing up for the changes and farce and some views expressed by posters on here ,but But - after your. 'usual B******s' big statement the (usual) incorrect / inaccurate 'b******x' from you The Club only 'Pick up the tab' for officers deployed inside the stadium , not the ones delpoyes outside and in City Centre to prevent or react to disorder If you're going to come out with profound criticism, at least get your facts right Do you want to read the statement from the club and have another go at that. The club offered to pick up the tab for any officer deployed at the stadium - this includes the surrounding area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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