Red Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/10/01/evertons-7m-masterstroke-should-tempt-toffees-to-follow-up-inter/ What would we be entitled to ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 So if he moved, would we get a percentage of any money over the £11m initial fee or are the bonuses taken into account? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 4 minutes ago, Red said: http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/10/01/evertons-7m-masterstroke-should-tempt-toffees-to-follow-up-inter/ What would we be entitled to ? No idea! Wasn't the deal weighted on success at Villa, 11mil rising to 15mil or something? As for what is he worth now... impossible to say, assuming that if he does get sold Villa will want a significant return on him I could see him being too costly for most clubs to consider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 It'll take Premiership defenders less than 5 minutes to realise that his left foot is just for standing on (and that there's nothing wrong with his wrist) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 3 minutes ago, Rudolf Hucker said: It'll take Premiership defenders less than 5 minutes to realise that his left foot is just for standing on (and that there's nothing wrong with his wrist) And it only takes one stride up the pitch to get him offside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garland-sweden Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 Think Kodjia is a good player, rather see him in Everto than in Villa, our division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 It's possible that any sell on fee was renegotiated when we signed Baker, therefore we might not get what we on this forum think we will. Baker for £2.5 M (if that is correct ?) is looking a steal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 I think it has been club policy for a number of years now to insert a sell on clause into all transfer aggreements. 20% I would hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 21 minutes ago, The Gasbuster said: It's possible that any sell on fee was renegotiated when we signed Baker, therefore we might not get what we on this forum think we will. Baker for £2.5 M (if that is correct ?) is looking a steal. I read (probably on here)that we signed Baker for £400k, but wrote off all/some of Kodjia’s after deals. At the time wasn’t one of them related to him getting 20 goals that he missed by 1 goal? All speculation I’m afraid. It wouldn’t surprise me if Baker was cheaper than reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 16 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I read (probably on here)that we signed Baker for £400k, but wrote off all/some of Kodjia’s after deals. At the time wasn’t one of them related to him getting 20 goals that he missed by 1 goal? All speculation I’m afraid. It wouldn’t surprise me if Baker was cheaper than reported. Stockhausen said it was £400k as they were desperate to get players off the wage bill for FFP purposes. No mention of any write off as far as I recall. Nobody wanted the players they wanted shot of (Richards and the like) so they were over a barrel. I wouldn't be surprised therefore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ealing Robin Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 I have it on very good authority we paid more than 2.5m for Baker. As we were not the only club in for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 22 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I read (probably on here)that we signed Baker for £400k, but wrote off all/some of Kodjia’s after deals. At the time wasn’t one of them related to him getting 20 goals that he missed by 1 goal? All speculation I’m afraid. It wouldn’t surprise me if Baker was cheaper than reported. To be fair I'd class that as good business if it were true, can anyone see Villa getting more than 20m for him? £9m profit max, 20% being £1.8m from it as most likely. Getting Baker stands as the better deal as we can sell Baker too down the line for a greater amount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 4 minutes ago, hodge said: To be fair I'd class that as good business if it were true, can anyone see Villa getting more than 20m for him? £9m profit max, 20% being £1.8m from it as most likely. Getting Baker stands as the better deal as we can sell Baker too down the line for a greater amount. Would rather see Baker here for a long time than make a load of dosh from selling him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 3 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said: Would rather see Baker here for a long time than make a load of dosh from selling him. Same to an extent, if we're talking stupid money again (ala Kodjia) then you need to accept we will sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 22 minutes ago, WR5 said: I have it on very good authority we paid more than 2.5m for Baker. As we were not the only club in for him. So is Kodjia’s £4m worth of clauses still in situ then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ealing Robin Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 10 minutes ago, Davefevs said: So is Kodjia’s £4m worth of clauses still in situ then? No idea on that one i'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonM88 Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 3 hours ago, Davefevs said: So is Kodjia’s £4m worth of clauses still in situ then? I read that we’ve already got some of the money, fairly early last season. International and double figures in the league related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red white and red Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 Let's face it, nobody on here actually knows what is in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 To answer the question, for Villa to consider selling him, he'd probably have to go for at least £25m. If we didn't waive anything for Baker then that would mean a 10-14m profit and I'm assuming we get a % of that. 10% is 1-1.4m 25% is 2.5-3.5m. With his age and lack of any top flight experience, it's hard for me to see suitors at that price. Personally, I'm a believer in the guys talent. I think he could cut it for Everton and would give them what they need. I am also not the one who would have to shell out a large sum for him at 27-28 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 14 hours ago, chinapig said: Stockhausen said it was £400k as they were desperate to get players off the wage bill for FFP purposes. No mention of any write off as far as I recall. Nobody wanted the players they wanted shot of (Richards and the like) so they were over a barrel. I wouldn't be surprised therefore. That doesn't really stack up though, does it..? They replaced Bakers wage with John Terry's!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 8 hours ago, Bar BS3 said: That doesn't really stack up though, does it..? They replaced Bakers wage with John Terry's!! Except it was the other way around. Signing Terry on a reported £80k a week meant their financial situation got even worse. The plan was to offload players they didn't want to cover the cost but since nobody wanted the likes of McCormack, Richards and Elphick given their big wages - not to mention the reputation of at least two of them - they had to move Baker out when they would rather have kept him. Bruce certainly made it clear he didn't really want to sell Baker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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