KevP Posted October 13, 2017 Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 One word for him tonight......predictable. There are other rude ones of course...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted October 13, 2017 Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 v poor ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted October 13, 2017 Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 Not a great night . All of the midfield and attackers were extremely poor at attacking . Back five did what they had to do . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whale Eye Beef Hooked Posted October 13, 2017 Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 1 hour ago, joe jordans teeth said: Lee just said the same but also said we needed a early goal then why chop and change Because he was flying in training. It's a squad game over a season. If you was the manager and a fringe player was bang on it in training then surely you would throw him into a game where the opponent was always going to park the bus where you need someone to unlock the defence This was always going to be drab. We will do better against the better teams by hitting them on the counter attack and ther are more "better" teams than poor teams in this league. Move on to the next game and be glad we kept another clean sheet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Posted October 13, 2017 Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 Eliasson had a poor game tonight, but I thought our other attacking players (Paterson, Reid, Diedhou) were all below par as well. There were too many wrong decisions and we often struggled to keep the ball under control when we got into the final third. Leko looked lively when he came on but there was no end product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishpondsred Posted October 13, 2017 Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 Yes Eliasson was poor tonight - including his corner delivery. Am confident there is more from him in the future though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SedRA Posted October 13, 2017 Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 22 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said: Waay over the top His crossing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Skin Posted October 13, 2017 Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 Replacing Eliasson with Leko was wrong call. Both are inexperienced and relying on them was a bit naive by LJ Think we should have started with either Leko or Eliasson, and if that wasn't working that bring on Callum who can be relied on to carry the ball or get a free kick. Felt sorry for the strikers tonight. No real service from the wings, and to be fair to Burton they snuffed out anything through the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted October 13, 2017 Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 Just now, RedSA said: His crossing? Clever. shall we write him off then? After all he's 20 what is it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SedRA Posted October 13, 2017 Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 Just now, AppyDAZE said: Clever. shall we write him off then? After all he's 20 what is it ? Exactly. If he can't produce on his debut he never will, we all know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted October 13, 2017 Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 Don't think having Bailey Wright as a right back helps him as he never overlaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted October 13, 2017 Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 1 hour ago, MichaelRobartes said: Was COD injured? Strange decision to drop him. Not really. Maybe LJ thought he might contribute an assist or a goal. Obviously he didn't and, I agree, was disappointing tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted October 13, 2017 Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 31 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Rubbish. Flint was absolutely outstanding, even trying to make play when others around him couldn't. Wright did nothing wrong either,. They were best two of the bunch but their job is to defend and as Burton offered no serious threat they had licence to play in a more attacking manner. Point is they shouldn't have needed to. The other 8 outfield players were poor as a whole. It occurred to me that the midfield lacked creativity with Smith and Brownhill largely anonymous. Diedhiou was playing up top on his own with Reid dropping back in to help in midfield. It was slightly better when Pack came on. But...despite it being a disappointing game at least City didn't lose it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman85 Posted October 13, 2017 Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 1 hour ago, old_eastender said: Leko at least tried to beat his man, Eliasson just checked out all the time. Very disappointing. To be fair no City player managed to get quality crosses in, even Bryan on the few occasions he got forward only gave their goalie catching practice. Pato, Leko etc all persistently failed to get their crosses past the first defender. As others have said needed better movement and really missed Taylor, also strange the COD never got a look in even off the bench. Woodrow offered nothing and Reid was lost when pushed back into midfield. Add to this Diedhiou often letting the ball bounce off him 2 yards and hardly surprising their keeper was virtually untested. No lack of effort, but a real lack of quality. I genuinely think we are better away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted October 13, 2017 Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 Thought he was better than Leko if Im being honest. The latter looked like he was playing for himself and completely broke our pattern. Edit: First time I have seen them both play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted October 13, 2017 Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 2 hours ago, Shtanley said: Was better than Leko that's not saying much, very disappointed with him tonight did as many bad things as good, hopefully a blip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted October 13, 2017 Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 Difficult for wingers who rely on pace when the opposition set up two banks to defend, they have to beat two defenders to get a ball in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted October 13, 2017 Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Whale Eye Beef Hooked said: Because he was flying in training. It's a squad game over a season. If you was the manager and a fringe player was bang on it in training then surely you would throw him into a game where the opponent was always going to park the bus where you need someone to unlock the defence This was always going to be drab. We will do better against the better teams by hitting them on the counter attack and ther are more "better" teams than poor teams in this league. Move on to the next game and be glad we kept another clean sheet Surely if you are a manager you get the game won with trusted players and then chuck him on,you really don't buy the "he was flying in training" bull crap do you. If it would have been Cardiff at home he wouldn't of started.Good username by the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne allisons tongues Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 Burton were defending so deep, he couldn’t use his pace to get past the fb or have a ball played into the channel for him to run onto. Same think for Leko who at least tried to run at people but seemed to be a bit greedy and could of played some balls in box eArlie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 Nothing like an international break and a manager of the month syndrome to check the momentum. I don't think it is fair to single out one player when it seems most were less sharp than they were 2 weeks ago. Burton were probably the best team we could have played; an off night but against a team that had no idea how to get through the City defence. Notwithstanding what seemed like a rank amateur of a Referee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Northski Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 I only wondered why the rest of the team weren't passing to him, until they eventually did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whale Eye Beef Hooked Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 6 hours ago, joe jordans teeth said: Surely if you are a manager you get the game won with trusted players and then chuck him on,you really don't buy the "he was flying in training" bull crap do you. If it would have been Cardiff at home he wouldn't of started.Good username by the way Of course I do They said before the game he was flying in training so why wouldn't I believe it If one of my players was bang on it in training then yes I would put him in. It's slightly different if they're is s game sat tue sat because you then generally pick a team based on the performance in those games but after a break you can only go on training performance. If he comes in and scores a hatricjk LJ is a genius if he is poor then LJ is battered That is football I suppose. Hindsight is a wonderful thing I looked at the team at the start and was pleased so I'm not going to knock him because we didn't win. Burton will do that to s lot of teams this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SedRA Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 1 minute ago, Whale Eye Beef Hooked said: Of course I do They said before the game he was flying in training so why wouldn't I believe it If one of my players was bang on it in training then yes I would put him in. It's slightly different if they're is s game sat tue sat because you then generally pick a team based on the performance in those games but after a break you can only go on training performance. If he comes in and scores a hatricjk LJ is a genius if he is poor then LJ is battered That is football I suppose. Hindsight is a wonderful thing I looked at the team at the start and was pleased so I'm not going to knock him because we didn't win. Burton will do that to s lot of teams this year Despite their two 4-0 defeats home, that was their third clean sheet in a row away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gert Mare Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 If he was flying in training then it has to be a confidence thing, not a problem with ability. However, I am not a great believer of gaining confidence through cameo appearances. It hasn't worked for a number of our imports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 10 hours ago, stephenkibby. said: Yeah sounds like we have a real lack of quality in the side. Despite being beat only once this season. Eliasson not going to cut the mustard. Woodrow, can we send him back? Diedhiou couldn't trap a bag of cement. That's three 0/0 away results for Burton so was never going to be a given just because weve hit the top six. Just because we couldn't break them down tonight doesn't mean we lack quality, time will tell on that lets see how were preforming in the next six weeks. If were still up around the top six come the new year, then it's time to maybe get excited and for sure this time there will be a couple of class incomings. Just can't see why the 0/0 tonight should take anything away from results in the last few weeks. Well, let's hope he never comes up against Seamus Coleman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1891 B.C. Sweden Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 11 hours ago, joe jordans teeth said: Maybe we should just stay away from everybody Swedish I wish you good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 Seemed to be on a different wavelength to the fullback all night, going long when it was made to come short for an overlap and vice versa. Odd game to give him a start and didn't cover himself in glory (then again who did last night?) but hopefully he'll come back stronger for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 To single our Eliasson and Leko when there was so many poor performances is odd. I don't think Dieudhiou covered himself in glory either. Woodrow was anonymous when he came on. Even Joe was poor in the first half, although he was our best outlet in the second when they decided, bizarrely, to play no one on their right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickolas Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 If we continue to be strong at home then there will be many more teams defending like this. Đurić is the perfect answer to those tactics where we can go more direct and play off of him. This is plan B which LJ has said weve never really had to use this season. Tbh, i think the games v Leeds etc will be more easy to win as they’ll come down to atleast attempt to win thus leaving more space for our attacking play. The likes of Millwall, Burton and Bolton will use those tactics at almost every away ground this season so its nothing we probably wont see again. Only thing we probably failed to do last night was use Flint up top for final 10 to see if he had a similar effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 Wide men din't do a thing last night. Eliasson still learning the League and Leko wanted to come deeper and cut inside when we needed to stretch the pitch. Odowda may have been the better option but I wanted Eliasson and Leko to be given a go so I can't moan too much. LJ said after they have both been very good in training , just a bad night for them. I really think if Piasno plays , the winger plays slightly differently. He'll push the winger up and overlaps more naturally , going to be hard for LJ when he's fit, be tough to drop any of the back 4 but for me he'd start. Wright has the shirt and will hard to dislodge though. I think LJ did make an error in bring on Woodrow , admittedly this is hindsight though I was surprised , I though Taylor may have been the option I was surprised he wasn't on the bench. Difficult choices for Johnson and with the 2 loanees it's hard to pick the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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