whale Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 So.... The red card! First thought was that Taylor was headbutted and for some reason got sent off for it. After talking it over with others, we thought maybe it was because Taylor was the aggressor (although in itself I don't think that's a red card offence). Having watched the replay. (2m57), http://www.skysports.com/football/bristol-c-vs-leeds/374767, I can't see where Taylor's red has come from. Any thoughts? Any chance of it being rescinded? Yes, I know it wasn't a factor in our defeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dredd Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 Got to appeal it. Not sure it can be violent conduct if he’s not done anything to the player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 I’m convinced he slipped as he ran towards him and bounced off the Leeds player. Don’t actually think either deserved a red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EstoniaTallinnRed Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 LJ says they will appeal, the video shows he did nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Tomarse said: I’m convinced he slipped as he ran towards him and bounced off the Leeds player. Don’t actually think either deserved a red The Leeds player definitely ducked his head in a downward movement, it looked like a clear butt to me, should have been a red and a yellow IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_eastender Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 1 minute ago, EstoniaTallinnRed said: LJ says they will appeal, the video shows he did nothing. Good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 I'll give Taylor 8.5 for technical merit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wilksi Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 LJ confirmed Taylors nose is broken. He moved towards the player, but from my seat right in front of it,the Leeds players definetly nutted him. Taylors should be overturned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 He has squared off, but that it not in itself a red card offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hinsleburg Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 Was right in front of me, Taylor reacted badly to the tackle (not sure why as it was cynical but not dangerous...?) but only went to square up to him and didn’t put his head in. Berardi leant in and caught him clean, whilst not a massive movement any intent with the head can do damage and Taylor’s injury proves that, Berardi deserves longer than 3 games! Taylor, whilst stupid, didn’t deserve a red and needs to be appealed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 As others have said looking at the replay looked like Taylor was definitely up for an agro head to head but the Leeds player nutted him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slack Bladder Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 7 minutes ago, cityexile said: He has squared off, but that it not in itself a red card offense. My thoughts exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otib118 Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 Taylor should have been booked for squaring up but there bloke 100% deserved his red for butting him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 Pretty sure the only offence for which he could have been sent off in that situation is violent conduct. Looking at the incident, unless there was something we couldn't see in the handbags afterwards, all that has happened is the ref bottled it under pressure from Leeds. It ought to be easy to get in rescinded. I expect the Leeds player will get an extra couple of games too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 Glad he got sent off, I’d have been calling for an opposition player to have been in the same situation. Only seems fair to apply my reasoning to our player too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, RumRed said: Glad he got sent off, I’d have been calling for an opposition player to have been in the same situation. Only seems fair to apply my reasoning to our player too. You'd have been wrong, then ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 12 minutes ago, RumRed said: Glad he got sent off, I’d have been calling for an opposition player to have been in the same situation. Only seems fair to apply my reasoning to our player too. Good idea. Let's bring in a new rule... it is a red card offence to be assalted on the field of play. No, seriousy. I agree with Johnson, looks like a borderline football / assault thing. Absolute shocker and from a bloke with a track record apparently. Needs stamping out before the guy turns into Ben Thatcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC11 Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 Thing that gets me every time I see a headbutt on a football pitch is, if any of us nutted someone on the street or wherever, guarantee we’d be charged with ABH at the very least, whilst footballers get a 3 match ban..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evander Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 i know we want to stick up for matty but it was a dive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 1 minute ago, evander said: i know we want to stick up for matty but it was a dive The bit where the Leeds player went through the back of him or the bit where he got headbutted and had his nose broken? Perhaps he went to ground quickly after the headbutt but I'm fairly sure (not least from the photo above) he was entitled to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evander Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 it was a foul but headbutt really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 Just now, evander said: it was a foul but headbutt really? When you put your forehead into someone else's face hard enough to break their nose I don't think there's any other word for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 21 minutes ago, evander said: i know we want to stick up for matty but it was a dive So what did he do, smack himself in the nose after he went down? Give your head a wobble mate - I expect you`d hit the deck if someone in the pub nutted you so hard it broke your nose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evander Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 why was mattys face there be honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 Just now, evander said: why was mattys face there be honest I imagine because he was pissed off about being scythed down from behind. Not the right thing to do but it's not really relevant to whether or not what the Leeds player did was a headbutt is it? Being provoked (and I disagree that was what happened) has never been an excuse that gets you out of a sending off for violent conduct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 Just now, Nibor said: I imagine because he was pissed off about being scythed down from behind. Not the right thing to do but it's not really relevant to whether or not what the Leeds player did was a headbutt is it? Being provoked (and I disagree that was what happened) has never been an excuse that gets you out of a sending off for violent conduct. I think you might find you are arguing with a . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, evander said: why was mattys face there be honest Is a valid point. He didn’t run up to him to make friends and he got close enough to get butted. Inciting the issue is the only reason I can think of that we might fail in an appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: Is a valid point. He didn’t run up to him to make friends and he got close enough to get butted. Inciting the issue is the only reason I can think of that we might fail in an appeal. A very strange statement indeed, would you say the same to a victim who confronts somebody only to get stabbed for instance?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SedRA Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 16 minutes ago, evander said: why was mattys face there be honest Most people's faces are on the front of their head, to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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