MC RISK77 Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 What a season we are having this far...4th place and a fantastic cup run and Lee now looking every bit the highly rated young manager many pundits suggest he is. i can’t help thinking that last season and in particular the losing run was the best thing that could have happened to him. It takes real guts and resilience to stand your ground when pretty much 90% of the crowd wanted him gone during that period. Turning round and seeing a banner sayin o’drisvoll save us must have been a particular low point. however the confidence lansdown showed in him must be a fantastic feeling in a climate where most teams would have got shot of him. i think he has clearly learnt from that and is now benefiting from the experience. still early days but he takes all the plaudits from me 10/10 this season from transfers...team set up..tactics and communicatio with the fan base. i really hope he can take us places this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJS Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 I would disagree about the 90% wanting him out. It seemed a lot when you came onto this forum but many had a feeling he would come good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 Immense credit also to SL. Loyalty is a very rare thing in football nowadays and I for one am pleased we showed more of it than most other clubs would have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 I think for the most part- those who wanted him out were relatively muted in the ground itself. I know this forum is a good cross-section but the only real time- and we don't know how many stayed away during the awful run. However, the only notable time at home I feel the crowd really turned was after the 2nd Fulham goal IMO. Also, there was resigned exodus of people getting up and leaving after the 3rd v Cardiff- following a similar scenario v Reading in past League home game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 19 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: I think for the most part- those who wanted him out were relatively muted in the ground itself. I know this forum is a good cross-section but the only real time- and we don't know how many stayed away during the awful run. However, the only notable time at home I feel the crowd really turned was after the 2nd Fulham goal IMO. Also, there was resigned exodus of people getting up and leaving after the 3rd v Cardiff- following a similar scenario v Reading in past League home game. This forum bares very little resemblance to the crowd at Ashton Gate on a matchday! I like the forum but out matchday support were a real credit last season. The polar opposite of the moronic drivel posted by many on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 27 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said: Immense credit also to SL. Loyalty is a very rare thing in football nowadays and I for one am pleased we showed more of it than most other clubs would have. Although SL had the final say in the matter, only one board member voted to keep LJ last season and it wasn't Lansdown, So to say SL deserves praise for showing loyalty isn't strictly true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, The Horse With No Name said: Although SL had the final say in the matter, only one board member voted to keep LJ last season and it wasn't Lansdown, So to say SL deserves praise for showing loyalty isn't strictly true. Was it? That does surprise me. JL presumably then or am I misreading things totally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 1 minute ago, Red Right Hand said: Was it? That does surprise me. JL presumably then or am I misreading things totally? No. maybe someone ITK can confirm but both Lansdowns were ready to pull the trigger, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 I think next season could be the peak. We need to hold onto most of this group and really go for promotion in the 2018-19 season. The potential is undoubtedly there and Johnson would be making steady progress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyInWeston Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 18 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: This forum bares very little resemblance to the crowd at Ashton Gate on a matchday! I like the forum but out matchday support were a real credit last season. The polar opposite of the moronic drivel posted by many on here. Too true, it seems many on here view this as the Bristol City complaints department! The support last season were a real credit to sticking behind the team in a bad run. Dont get me wrong, I do like a larf by some of the moaners on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellfire Corner Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 17 minutes ago, The Horse With No Name said: Although SL had the final say in the matter, only one board member voted to keep LJ last season and it wasn't Lansdown, So to say SL deserves praise for showing loyalty isn't strictly true. Is that your opinion or a fact? If a fact, how do you know that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finbarr_in_z Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 "I will boo" Hold on. That's so last season.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 7 minutes ago, Hellfire Corner said: Is that your opinion or a fact? If a fact, how do you know that? A fact as told by an employee in the inner sanctum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellfire Corner Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 1 minute ago, The Horse With No Name said: A fact as told by an employee in the inner sanctum. Ok thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 Wanted him to succeed, didn’t see it happening, so wanted him out....even though I never want that to happen to any manager. Definitely proved he’s capable of learning (and quickly)....nothing worse than stubbornness. He’s actually gone back to his beliefs and principles, which he tossed out the window last season. In the main, he’s recruited for that 442 he wants to play. Think others have said that out and out wingers haven’t done it this season, but I think LJ likes the hard-working type, capable of drifting in on either foot (Pato and COD, even Brownhill early in season). Its working. Long May it continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 17 minutes ago, mozo said: I think next season could be the peak. We need to hold onto most of this group and really go for promotion in the 2018-19 season. The potential is undoubtedly there and Johnson would be making steady progress Are we not really going for promotion in 17/18? I am easily fooled you know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 20 minutes ago, REDOXO said: Are we not really going for promotion in 17/18? I am easily fooled you know! I'm sure every club in the world is, but realistically most won't. It feels to me (you might disagree?) that the experience and confidence gained by our young squad could equip them to be at the required level next year, but that they're not up to it yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyInWeston Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, mozo said: I'm sure every club in the world is, but realistically most won't. It feels to me (you might disagree?) that the experience and confidence gained by our young squad could equip them to be at the required level next year, but that they're not up to it yet? I'd rather us strengthen in Jan and next Summer before trying for promotion this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 12 minutes ago, CrazyInWeston said: I'd rather us strengthen in Jan and next Summer before trying for promotion this season. So we are not going to try for promotion this season, which games have they decided to lose do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyInWeston Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, 1bristolcity said: So we are not going to try for promotion this season, which games have they decided to lose do you think? I just think its too early, sure we may have in the cup beaten 3 teams in said league, but I just feel we need extra strength or we'd go right back down. Hey, I'll be very happy to admit I'm wrong if we go up and stay up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 I would be more than happy to follow Bunley's path - Go up, come back down (as fully expected), then go back up and stabilise. All done without changing their manager / head coach once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 29 minutes ago, mozo said: I'm sure every club in the world is, but realistically most won't. It feels to me (you might disagree?) that the experience and confidence gained by our young squad could equip them to be at the required level next year, but that they're not up to it yet? Not sure Mozo. We look good value for fourth most weeks. The problem is offers. Bryan must be on the radar of every side out of the big five as is Brownhill. Keeping players is key to next season and who we bring in. I don't think SL is thinking this is a dress Rehearsal for another year. If we are good enough we will stay up there. That's what Sheff Utd and Cardiff will be thinking. The division favorites are largely struggling so why not us. Bugger me if Wolves have played a better team than us on the night I will be amazed. Think Big. Is my thoughts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 5 minutes ago, REDOXO said: Not sure Mozo. We look good value for fourth most weeks. The problem is offers. Bryan must be on the radar of every side out of the big five as is Brownhill. Keeping players is key to next season and who we bring in. I don't think SL is thinking this is a dress Rehearsal for another year. If we are good enough we will stay up there. That's what Sheff Utd and Cardiff will be thinking. The division favorites are largely struggling so why not us. Bugger me if Wolves have played a better team than us on the night I will be amazed. Think Big. Is my thoughts I'll pass on that offer, if it's all the same to you Oxo - no matter how big you are thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon79 Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 1 hour ago, The Horse With No Name said: No. maybe someone ITK can confirm but both Lansdowns were ready to pull the trigger, I'm confused ( not difficult! ). But SL was ready to pull the trigger, but then only one member of the board wanted LJ to stay & that swayed his opinion in the other direction? COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Rich Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 29 minutes ago, CrazyInWeston said: I just think its too early, sure we may have in the cup beaten 3 teams in said league, but I just feel we need extra strength or we'd go right back down. Hey, I'll be very happy to admit I'm wrong if we go up and stay up. You might be right - but the extra money from being up and parachute payments would mean the players we can recruit within FFP would change massively. I not saying I think we'll go up this season but the squad we would have if we don't go up and keep out players and add to them for a go at promotion compared to the one you would have even if relegated from the prem would be huge. Better to go up come down and then go for promotion again than hope we keep our best players in the summer and try and build on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 39 minutes ago, Simon79 said: I'm confused ( not difficult! ). But SL was ready to pull the trigger, but then only one member of the board wanted LJ to stay & that swayed his opinion in the other direction? COYR As I understand it, the decision had to be unanimous, and it wasn't quite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsontour Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 Absolutely bull... Sorry, but if SL wanted LJ gone, LJ would be gone. Unanimous decision my arse. Your “source” is, I’m afraid either a bulls***** or a sh**tstirer. Under what circumstances does a privately owned business with a majority shareholder require anything other than the majority shareholder to make a management change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red Planet Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 2 hours ago, The Horse With No Name said: Although SL had the final say in the matter, only one board member voted to keep LJ last season and it wasn't Lansdown, So to say SL deserves praise for showing loyalty isn't strictly true. How many on the board ? Seven or eight I think. So, if only one voted to stick with LJ - how come he was not sacked ? This statement is obviously rubbish. SL has supported LJ consistently since he became Head Coach and it is now coming good. With regard to last season, yes it was dreadful in the last few weeks of 2016 and early 2017 but if you care to check my posting record you will find me supporting LJ throughout and I always thought he would come good. As the OP says, he had the guts to get through that nightmare and is much stronger as a result. We are now seeing a settled management team, a squad now almost entirely chosen by Lee who are developing a great understanding between them, and the best of the youngsters (particularly Reid) developing into superb players. Feels good today after a great win away at Sunderland. OH - and we are home to Man U just before Christmas. Happy days ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 27 minutes ago, redsontour said: Absolutely bull... Sorry, but if SL wanted LJ gone, LJ would be gone. Unanimous decision my arse. Your “source” is, I’m afraid either a bulls***** or a sh**tstirer. Under what circumstances does a privately owned business with a majority shareholder require anything other than the majority shareholder to make a management change? How about if that board member was the Chairman? Would that make a difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, The Horse With No Name said: How about if that board member was the Chairman? Would that make a difference? SL categorically stated in that interview that it was his decision alone whether LJ stayed… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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