Sparkz 76 Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 https://www.101greatgoals.com/news/lee-tomlin-goal-cardiff-not-count/amp/ see the horrible tellytubbie had a goal disallowed for kicking the ball from keepers hand in all fairness the goalie did toss the ball first. Seeing I hate Tomlin I would say no goals thoughts anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 According to the rule they quoted it's not allowed anymore (97). George Best was definitely a goal though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fat Controller Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Didn't Akinbiyi try that once? Except he headed it out of the keepers hand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 13 minutes ago, REDOXO said: According to the rule they quoted it's not allowed anymore (97). George Best was definitely a goal though Tomlin makes George Best look like a model professional who took his fitness seriously! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pride of the west Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Of course it's not a goal. If it was then everyone would be doing it and the scores will be 10 all by half time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Rich Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Can't say I 100% knew about the rule change. But what is clear in the video is the Keeper absolutely did he knows it's going to be disallowed - doesn't panic just waits for the ref to take action. It's also clear Warnock and Tomlin do not know the rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Love how Warnock is spitting feathers at the official. Presumably he called to apologies once he realised the referee had correctly applied the laws of the game.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Warnock clearly acknowledged this is not allowed and didn't challenge it after the match. Much as I dislike him, he was fair on that. The rule has been clear for decades. When a keeper throws the ball in the air to kick it, you can't intercept it. Everybody knows that - except Tomlin and a handful of Cardiff fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkz 76 Posted October 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Did Warnock want a walk in goal remember that at Palace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Quite obviously not allowed. Just shows how thick Tomlin is that he even thinks he can do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol_Badger Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Typical bitter post... grow-up. I enjoyed watching Tomlin whilst he was here and he clearly wasn't the right fit for what LJ wanted. Move on.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldlandReddies Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Really dont care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKM Len Posted October 30, 2017 Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 13 hours ago, Sparkz 76 said: https://www.101greatgoals.com/news/lee-tomlin-goal-cardiff-not-count/amp/ see the horrible tellytubbie had a goal disallowed for kicking the ball from keepers hand in all fairness the goalie did toss the ball first. Seeing I hate Tomlin I would say no goals thoughts anyone? I would just say no goal. He was never gonna get 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted October 30, 2017 Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 11 hours ago, Bristol_Badger said: Typical bitter post... grow-up. I enjoyed watching Tomlin whilst he was here and he clearly wasn't the right fit for what LJ wanted. Move on.... He clearly was a disruptive influence and a thug move on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellfire Corner Posted October 30, 2017 Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 40 minutes ago, Monkeh said: He clearly was a disruptive influence and a thug move on I can see where you are coming from with “disruptive influence” but “thug?” If he’s found guilty, then I would agree and he would deserve everything he gets, but what about innocent until proved guilty? Maybe there are other instances of thuggish behaviour on record that I don’t know about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted October 30, 2017 Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 I remember Henry doing this for Arsenal years ago, it wasn’t allowed then. Tomlin knew it wasn’t allowed either. Worth a go though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted October 30, 2017 Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 41 minutes ago, Negan said: I remember Henry doing this for Arsenal years ago, it wasn’t allowed then. Tomlin knew it wasn’t allowed either. Worth a go though. How is it worth a go when it’s clearly not allowed? Just shows how thick Tomlin is. Literally nobody does this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted October 30, 2017 Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 53 minutes ago, David Brent said: How is it worth a go when it’s clearly not allowed? Just shows how thick Tomlin is. Literally nobody does this. Well if the ref didn’t see what happened or decided to give it then it would have been worth the go. If he didn’t mouth off he wouldn’t have been booked so wouldn’t have gained or lost anything in doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted October 30, 2017 Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 3 hours ago, Negan said: Well if the ref didn’t see what happened or decided to give it then it would have been worth the go. If he didn’t mouth off he wouldn’t have been booked so wouldn’t have gained or lost anything in doing so. Well he should have been, because the actual act of kicking the ball from the keepers hands is a caution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted October 30, 2017 Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 55 minutes ago, MarcusX said: Well he should have been, because the actual act of kicking the ball from the keepers hands is a caution. He didn’t kick the ball from the keepers hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted October 30, 2017 Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 12 minutes ago, Negan said: He didn’t kick the ball from the keepers hand. But the rules state that until the ball hits the ground or the keeper kicks it, it is classified as in his hands, which is why it is illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted October 30, 2017 Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 28 minutes ago, Negan said: He didn’t kick the ball from the keepers hand. https://www.fifa.com/mm/document/afdeveloping/refereeing/law_12_fouls_misconduct_en_47379.pdf Page 23 and 25, The ball is under the keepers control it's a foul and a indirect free kick, is a yellow card because he mouthed off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted October 30, 2017 Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 Listen folks and let me give you the definitive answer to this particular senario. The law very clearly states that if a player who happens to play for Colin ****** attempts to score when the keeper is in posession of the football... it is grossly unfair if any resulting goal is disallowed. ON the other hand... if the player happens to be playing AGAINST Colin, that player and club are cheats, a disgrace, should never play football again etc etc etc Quite clear really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkz 76 Posted October 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 23 hours ago, Bristol_Badger said: Typical bitter post... grow-up. I enjoyed watching Tomlin whilst he was here and he clearly wasn't the right fit for what LJ wanted. Move on.... Calm down buddy if you love Tomlin that’s up too you don’t go for a drink to Leicester he might assault you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulton Red Posted October 30, 2017 Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 I didn’t realise till the highlights show on Saturday that the ball is counted as being int the keepers hands even when released to kick. so how does it work when they take the ball to the edge of the box and kick it from their hands? More often than not they are outside the box when they kick the ball but nearly never see a free kick given against the keeper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 17 hours ago, Paulton Red said: I didn’t realise till the highlights show on Saturday that the ball is counted as being int the keepers hands even when released to kick. so how does it work when they take the ball to the edge of the box and kick it from their hands? More often than not they are outside the box when they kick the ball but nearly never see a free kick given against the keeper? if the ball bounces once the keeper has released then its in play, Thats the key, if tomlin had taken the ball off of the keepers foot as it bounced then it would of been a valid goal, so if the keeper carries the ball to the edge of the box, throws it up for a goal kick slightly outside the box, it is still classed in the keepers control until the first bounce, once that happens its fair game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 23 hours ago, Negan said: He didn’t kick the ball from the keepers hand. Come on, don't be silly - it doesn't matter. The whole motion of dropping/throwing the ball to be kicked is one action and cannot be impeded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 On 30/10/2017 at 06:48, Monkeh said: He clearly was a disruptive influence and a thug move on Like Bradley Orr? who was rightly loved at the club despite doing bird and clumping Louis Carey on the pitch once as I recall . LJ was very happy to have him around in the summer of 2016 and whilst it went sour afterwards, I have plenty of happy memories of him. Hope he stays shite all the time hes with Cardiff of course ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 27 minutes ago, Loon plage said: Like Bradley Orr? who was rightly loved at the club despite doing bird and clumping Louis Carey on the pitch once as I recall . LJ was very happy to have him around in the summer of 2016 and whilst it went sour afterwards, I have plenty of happy memories of him. Hope he stays shite all the time hes with Cardiff of course ! that didn't cause a rift in the dressing room, and orr apologized afterwards on sky in tears if I recall, a better comparison would be Gary Johnson and Ivan Sproule which cost Johnson his job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terpin Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 58 minutes ago, Monkeh said: if the ball bounces once the keeper has released then its in play, Thats the key, if tomlin had taken the ball off of the keepers foot as it bounced then it would of been a valid goal, so if the keeper carries the ball to the edge of the box, throws it up for a goal kick slightly outside the box, it is still classed in the keepers control until the first bounce, once that happens its fair game Wrong. If the keeper bounces the ball it is still deemed under his possession. "A goalkeeper is not permitted to keep control of the ball in his hands for more than six seconds. A goalkeeper is considered to be in control of the ball: • while the ball is between his hands or between his hand and any surface (e.g. ground, own body) • while holding the ball in his outstretched open hand • while in the act of bouncing it on the ground or tossing it into the air" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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