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Dolman_Stand

Bryan for England

Will Joe Bryan ever play for England?  

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Quite possibly. If there weren't so many talented youngsters coming through the England youth teams, then id say definitely. Is that West ham left back any better? I genuinely think Bryan could be a quality premier left back. Once an English player is playing regularly in the prem, they have every chance of playing for England. 

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What a massive overreaction. He has probably been the best LB in the league this season, but to suggest Gareth Southgate would pick him ahead of Rose/Bertrand/Cresswell/Gibbs etc. is just silly in my opinion.

EDIT: Something tells me he's eligible for Scotland too? Not sure where his allegiances lie (I'd assume England) but that's a far more realistic proposition.

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4 minutes ago, Distortia said:

What a massive overreaction. He has probably been the best LB in the league this season, but to suggest Gareth Southgate would pick him ahead of Rose/Bertrand/Cresswell/Gibbs etc. is just silly in my opinion.

EDIT: Something tells me he's eligible for Scotland too? Not sure where his allegiances lie (I'd assume England) but that's a far more realistic proposition.

Hmm not convinced he is too far behind those names you've mentioned

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Just now, Dolman_Stand said:

Hmm not convinced he is too far behind those names you've mentioned

Even if you completely disregard ability, in terms of experience, those 4 players all have over 100 Premier League appearances to their names. Massive gulf in class. You can add Shaw to the list if you like, but sadly it looks like his career is completely stagnant at this point in time.

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Just now, Distortia said:

Even if you completely disregard ability, in terms of experience, those 4 players all have over 100 Premier League appearances to their names. Massive gulf in class. You can add Shaw to the list if you like, but sadly it looks like his career is completely stagnant at this point in time.

Fair point, don't think its beyond the realms of possibility though that it could happen at some point in his career.

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:facepalm:  Not even close. He's had a good start to the season at this level but the step up is a big one. Could he perform week in week out in the Prem or another top flight league in Europe? Jurys out for me. Top draw Championship player though.

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7 minutes ago, Distortia said:

What a massive overreaction. He has probably been the best LB in the league this season, but to suggest Gareth Southgate would pick him ahead of Rose/Bertrand/Cresswell/Gibbs etc. is just silly in my opinion.

EDIT: Something tells me he's eligible for Scotland too? Not sure where his allegiances lie (I'd assume England) but that's a far more realistic proposition.

He never asked if we thought he'd go to the World Cup next year!  What you have to remember is that he's still young (hard to believe) and he will almost certainly play in the Prem.  Once he's up there, it's not a stretch to think he could get a look in in a friendly at the very least in a few years.  And from there, who knows?

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3 minutes ago, Dolman_Stand said:

Alonso @ Chelsea, Alba @ Barcelona, Marcelo @ Madrid, Alaba@ Munich, Sandro @ Juventus

Joe Bryan @  Bristol City 

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Good grief there's some serious premature reactions on here! Yep it's going well, yep we are getting fantastic results at the moment....but it's October.....we ain't Swindon are we? Do we claim to have won things or achieved things before Xmas?! There are people on here claiming we will go up and our players will play for England....I love the 'cider effect' but come on, it's October....

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‘Kin hell  what’s going the on this evening?  Has it been ‘snowing’ in Fulham tonight?

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52 minutes ago, Dolman_Stand said:

Given his form and relative youth will we ever see one of our own play for England?

Joe Bryan is simply class. The best full back by a mile in this league. Please please let's keep him at least to the summer. 

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Bryan is having a better season and is improving. But whooaaah! Last season he was almost unanimously acknowledged to have had a pretty poor season. I personally thought he was one of the poorest players of the regular first team last season. 

He's improving this year but let's keep a perspective, blimey. 

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2 minutes ago, tinman85 said:

Joe Bryan is simply class. The best full back by a mile in this league. Please please let's keep him at least to the summer. 

Again 'best full back by a mile in this league'? I think i even jumped the gun calling him 'top draw at this level' It was only last season that in quite a few games he was very very poor and as harry said one of our worst first team players.

 

 

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47 minutes ago, Dolman_Stand said:

Alonso @ Chelsea, Alba @ Barcelona, Marcelo @ Madrid, Alaba@ Munich, Sandro @ Juventus

:laugh: at 2 of those. The other three are of the standard of Rose. 

Why do england fans refuse to accept we have world class players in Kane, Walker, Rose and Alli.

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1 minute ago, JasonM88 said:

:laugh: at 2 of those. The other three are of the standard of Rose. 

Why do england fans refuse to accept we have world class players in Kane, Walker, Rose and Alli.

Once they prove it on a world stage I'll believe it. To date, none of them have. 

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2 minutes ago, JasonM88 said:

:laugh: at 2 of those. The other three are of the standard of Rose. 

Why do england fans refuse to accept we have world class players in Kane, Walker, Rose and Alli.

Probably because they don't expect them to make much of an impression come the World Cup. 

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3 minutes ago, JasonM88 said:

:laugh: at 2 of those. The other three are of the standard of Rose. 

Why do england fans refuse to accept we have world class players in Kane, Walker, Rose and Alli.

Let's see how good Rose is once he comes back from his injury. He's been out a long time and won't be the same level as before. Walker is not World class. He wasn't even the best right back at Tottenham. All is having a anonymous season so far. Kane I do agree with.

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1 hour ago, Distortia said:

What a massive overreaction. He has probably been the best LB in the league this season, but to suggest Gareth Southgate would pick him ahead of Rose/Bertrand/Cresswell/Gibbs etc. is just silly in my opinion.

EDIT: Something tells me he's eligible for Scotland too? Not sure where his allegiances lie (I'd assume England) but that's a far more realistic proposition.

I'm pretty sure he said about being a bit Scottish that he'd prefer to sit on the bench for 1 game for England than get 100 caps for Scotland.

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35 minutes ago, Harry said:

Bryan is having a better season and is improving. But whooaaah! Last season he was almost unanimously acknowledged to have had a pretty poor season. I personally thought he was one of the poorest players of the regular first team last season. 

He's improving this year but let's keep a perspective, blimey. 

He was my weak link last season along with Little. Those two positions were a massive priority in the summer, huge in fact. As time and time again we were getting done down the flanks! 

The difference for me this season with Bryan is pure and simple, his confidence. He’s taking players on, winning his tackles, headers, not afraid to shoot etc. 

He’s a real intelligent lad, he’ll know he’s got a long way to go but he’s got all the right attributes to go a long way in football.

I’m over the moon for him.

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4 hours ago, Distortia said:

What a massive overreaction. He has probably been the best LB in the league this season, but to suggest Gareth Southgate would pick him ahead of Rose/Bertrand/Cresswell/Gibbs etc. is just silly in my opinion.

EDIT: Something tells me he's eligible for Scotland too? Not sure where his allegiances lie (I'd assume England) but that's a far more realistic proposition.

Gordon Strachan once gave him a call about playing for Scotland. He declined the invitation.

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7 hours ago, Harry said:

Bryan is having a better season and is improving. But whooaaah! Last season he was almost unanimously acknowledged to have had a pretty poor season. I personally thought he was one of the poorest players of the regular first team last season. 

He's improving this year but let's keep a perspective, blimey. 

I said something along the lines last season of he needs to "want it more" - he almost seemed disinterested at times. Boy he wants it this year (nurse). It's great to see. (Or hear) 

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Quality act is our Jo. The most fascinating fact is that he is still improving. I have mentioned on here several times,, his reading of the game has improved massively. Sign of quality!

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Stranger things have happened - I’m sure in their late twenties Lambert and Vardy didn’t see it coming either. 

But I think probably not. On current form he’s the best English left back in the Championship, but there’s a big gulf between that and the best English left back in the world. 

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8 hours ago, JasonM88 said:

:laugh: at 2 of those. The other three are of the standard of Rose. 

Why do england fans refuse to accept we have world class players in Kane, Walker, Rose and Alli.

:facepalm: Because finally for the first time in years and years the vast majority of England fans have seen the truth. We dont have one single world class player in our squad dont kid yourself because they do a bit in the Prem!

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8 hours ago, JasonM88 said:

:laugh: at 2 of those. The other three are of the standard of Rose. 

Why do england fans refuse to accept we have world class players in Kane, Walker, Rose and Alli.

I'm gonna hazard a guess that Spurs are your "second team"? I can see no other reason for considering Danny Rose and Kyle Walker world class! Kane, yes...Alli certainly has the potential to be and I believe he ultimately will become world class. Not saying the other two aren't good players, but world class?

All about opinions though I guess.

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9 hours ago, Harry said:

Bryan is having a better season and is improving. But whooaaah! Last season he was almost unanimously acknowledged to have had a pretty poor season. I personally thought he was one of the poorest players of the regular first team last season. 

He's improving this year but let's keep a perspective, blimey. 

because you coated Joe Bryan off last season doesn't mean he was as crap as you made him out go be. a few weeks ago you said he couldnt shoot then up comes that banger v Palace. here is a  perspective. Joe Bryan is a very very good player who last season still at times showed he was very very good player in  team that nearly went down as fans on this forum also pointed out but you were having more of it. this season in what looks a good team he is showing how good he is by the week. no surprises.proving you wrong others very right.

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I'm not sure that the original post was insinuating that Bryan was ready for England now? Unless I am mistaken.

In all honesty if we were to go up this season, or if we didn't and a BPL team bought him over the summer I think he could definitely stake a claim for the next Euro's.

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Anyone unsure of Joe B’s quality on here.

Just do what I do and go up near the top row of the Dolman or Lansdown and look DOWN on the game and watch Joe B’s movement/reading of the game from a LB/attacking LB position.

Gives a fascinating perspective on what he potentially could become. He is still young.

The guy is awesome currently.

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1 hour ago, Steve Watts said:

I'm gonna hazard a guess that Spurs are your "second team"? I can see no other reason for considering Danny Rose and Kyle Walker world class! Kane, yes...Alli certainly has the potential to be and I believe he ultimately will become world class. Not saying the other two aren't good players, but world class?

All about opinions though I guess.

Are you suggesting alli isnt as good as messi or neymar?

the only england player i can see being a really top player in a few years is rashford. 

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10 hours ago, JasonM88 said:

Danny Rose. Name a better LB in the world.

Can't tell if that's a serious comment or not. I hope it isn't. But if it is, Marcelo? Alaba? Bryan?

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11 hours ago, Dolman_Stand said:

Hmm not convinced he is too far behind those names you've mentioned

Of course he is, he hasn't played anywhere near the top LB in the Prem, he's playing for a top 10 Champ side at present

11 hours ago, Rossi the Robin said:

He makes the game look so easy at times in third gear 

That's the problem, and was mentioned in the summer he looks like he is always playing in third gear

10 hours ago, tinman85 said:

Joe Bryan is simply class. The best full back by a mile in this league. Please please let's keep him at least to the summer. 

@tinman85 You have just made me spit out my tea !!

What a nonsense statement - how many other LB in our league do you watch week in week out?

10 hours ago, Harry said:

Bryan is having a better season and is improving. But whooaaah! Last season he was almost unanimously acknowledged to have had a pretty poor season. I personally thought he was one of the poorest players of the regular first team last season. 

He's improving this year but let's keep a perspective, blimey. 

@Harry is spot on, it wasn't that long ago he was being highlighted for bad positional play, and being caught out of position during the game

Yes he has improved this season but is still a LONG way off being anywhere near the Prem not alone international level!!

 

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11 hours ago, Dolman_Stand said:

Alonso @ Chelsea, Alba @ Barcelona, Marcelo @ Madrid, Alaba@ Munich, Sandro @ Juventus

Don't disagree on the middle three but Alonso firstly is a left wing-back and secondly is terrible defensively.

JB won't ever play for England but it's nice to dream. But let's not forget six months ago we thought he'd lost his mojo and wasn't necessarily even the answer for us let alone Southgate.

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3 minutes ago, phantom said:

 

Yes he has improved this season but is still a LONG way off being anywhere near the Prem not alone international level!!

 

Bristol City academy coaches described Joe Bryan as technically superb. That was years ago. Technically Joe Bryan is outstanding. He is a 360% player. He is an oddity in the Championship. Technically easily good enough for the Premiership and there have been English International players who have been less skilled. He would continue to improve in superior teams to BCFC.

England? Players should reach and stretch, who knows but the Premiership? All day long.

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Steve Watts said:

I'm gonna hazard a guess that Spurs are your "second team"? I can see no other reason for considering Danny Rose and Kyle Walker world class! Kane, yes...Alli certainly has the potential to be and I believe he ultimately will become world class. Not saying the other two aren't good players, but world class?

All about opinions though I guess.

No, don’t particularly like spurs. But, let’s be honest, they’re the place to go if you’re a young player. 

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2 hours ago, simon uk said:

Are you suggesting alli isnt as good as messi or neymar?

the only england player i can see being a really top player in a few years is rashford. 

There's world class and there's out of this world class, where the likes of Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar kinda sit! Alli had the potential but I have doubts over his attitude personally. If he gets his head in the team game he could be world class. 

You're right though... We are seriously lacking in potential elsewhere, regardless of the youth successes this year. Those players likely won't get chances at their clubs and so will struggle to become good enough for the senior team.

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12 hours ago, JasonM88 said:

:laugh: at 2 of those. The other three are of the standard of Rose. 

Why do england fans refuse to accept we have world class players in Kane, Walker, Rose and Alli.

Rose is a good prem player but certainly not in the same bracket as the aforementioned. Not sure on Alonso, but Alaba and especially Marcelo at Madrid are streets ahead or Rose

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12 hours ago, JasonM88 said:

:laugh: at 2 of those. The other three are of the standard of Rose. 

Why do england fans refuse to accept we have world class players in Kane, Walker, Rose and Alli.

 

12 hours ago, Harry said:

Once they prove it on a world stage I'll believe it. To date, none of them have. 

Apart from Ali none of those would be on the radar for any top European side

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2 hours ago, Cowshed said:

Bristol City academy coaches described Joe Bryan as technically superb. That was years ago. Technically Joe Bryan is outstanding. He is a 360% player. He is an oddity in the Championship. Technically easily good enough for the Premiership and there have been English International players who have been less skilled. He would continue to improve in superior teams to BCFC.

England? Players should reach and stretch, who knows but the Premiership? All day long.

 

 

 

Can you explain what a 360% player is?

Never heard that before.

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5 minutes ago, 42nite said:

Can you explain what a 360% player is?

Never heard that before.

Runs around in circles like Jordan Henderson?  No -  Joe's much better than that he's 110%.

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