stephenkibby. Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 41 minutes ago, OldlandReddies said: We havent beaten anyone in top 11 yet and were well and truely turned over by Leeds. We need to beat teams around us to prove that we are capable of lasting the pace. Saturday v Cardiff will be a massive test and a pointer as to where we are. Just one win and six defeats in the last eight against them says it all. Two defeats one away from home after 8 away games in this unforgiving league. Your not convinced we could be contenders? Bloody good when we play a good side away maybe Wolves? Then we might see if we have any chance. Never mind 24 points and we safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTBLUE Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 No one likes us,we don’t care............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 7 hours ago, RedDave said: What is the relevance that we have lost against them so many times? about 4 games ago against them our line up was this. No relevance to Saturday at all that we lost that game. GoalkeeperTom Heaton DefenderBrendan Moloney Defender/Centre BackLiam Fontaine Defender/Centre backLewin Nyatanga Defender/MidfielderRicky Foster MidfielderPaul Anderson MidfielderMarvin Elliott MidfielderLiam Kelly MidfielderStephen Pearson ForwardSteve Davies ForwardJon Stead Jesus Christ that makes me feel sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonPark Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 7 hours ago, Harry said: Who the hell do they train with then. Ha ha. Shambolic He meant West Ham's under 21 train daily with each other, when rovers mix of first team and under 21s don't. The same I imagine at city, the quote is being taken out of context Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderingred Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 Let's not forget about the three Premier League sides we've beaten too.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 7 hours ago, OldlandReddies said: We havent beaten anyone in top 11 yet and were well and truely turned over by Leeds. We need to beat teams around us to prove that we are capable of lasting the pace. Saturday v Cardiff will be a massive test and a pointer as to where we are. Just one win and six defeats in the last eight against them says it all. accept Derby and ipswich, Took a point off of villa (full of ex prem) wolves who spending makes us look like rovers, Norwich in other words you are talking shite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldlandReddies Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, Monkeh said: accept Derby and ipswich, Took a point off of villa (full of ex prem) wolves who spending makes us look like rovers, Norwich in other words you are talking shite Nah, not talking shite. Making the point we need to beat teams around us to be proper challengers this season. That when teams like ex prem Villa, Leeds with their history/fans and Cardiff with the expectation from the fans, the white hot atmosphere, the 'clever'/wise manager, We need to turn them over like we are doing to other teams in order to go that extra step towards getting out of this division. I, as much as any other City fan want that to happen and i hope it starts Saturday.Not talking shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 We can't only play teams in the order the league lines them up for us. When we've been good, we've been brilliant and the problem has been consistency of performance. That should improve over the season. I'm very excited about the way we're playing right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distortia Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 11 minutes ago, OldlandReddies said: Nah, not talking shite. Making the point we need to beat teams around us to be proper challengers this season. That when teams like ex prem Villa, Leeds with their history/fans and Cardiff with the expectation from the fans, the white hot atmosphere, the 'clever'/wise manager, We need to turn them over like we are doing to other teams in order to go that extra step towards getting out of this division. I, as much as any other City fan want that to happen and i hope it starts Saturday.Not talking shite. Weren't Ipswich above us when we beat them? I know what you mean but we also drew with Wolves, beat Derby (5th with a game in hand) 4-1, and we will see what the score is on Saturday. I think we've done fine in that regard so far this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coppello Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 8 hours ago, RedDave said: What is the relevance that we have lost against them so many times? about 4 games ago against them our line up was this. No relevance to Saturday at all that we lost that game. GoalkeeperTom Heaton DefenderBrendan Moloney Defender/Centre BackLiam Fontaine Defender/Centre backLewin Nyatanga Defender/MidfielderRicky Foster MidfielderPaul Anderson MidfielderMarvin Elliott MidfielderLiam Kelly MidfielderStephen Pearson ForwardSteve Davies ForwardJon Stead ******* hell mate Halloween ended yesterday. That is a frightening team and no wonder we were at the bottom end of the table for so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 What's the cheating stuff about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 8 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: They were arguably in a false position- a midtable to lower midtable side tbh. To put it another way, their performances were being outmatched by results. I'll agree it's a tough away game and very happy we won there especially as we almost never do. What I am saying is they (Ipswich) beat lower midtable to lowly sides and they got more than they deserved arguably at times even then. It's a good win for us but the Derby win and the Wolves draw even were more encouraging for me. The value of a win should be based on the form of the opposition, not their position in the table. Better to play a team in the top 6 on a bad run than a team in the bottom 6 on a good one. Too much is made of table position to validate a performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 8 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said: The value of a win should be based on the form of the opposition, not their position in the table. Better to play a team in the top 6 on a bad run than a team in the bottom 6 on a good one. Too much is made of table position to validate a performance. The point is, football analytics are coming a bigger part of the game. it's increasingly being used as indicators, to track form, likely and predicted outcomes and even individual players etc. Football indicators suggested Ipswich would slump- I said it wouldn't and couldn't last as far back as the end of August when they won 4/4. It's part of the modern game and will continue to grow in influence over time. Ask @ExiledAjax and @JamesBCFC for more on this. Anyway this is my last post on football analytics for a while- we roughly are where we should be and despite their slump which was frankly on the cards, it doesn't detract from winning up there and the fine result, display. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcredandwhite Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 9 hours ago, Merrick's Marvels said: Derby County. Ipswich Town. Other than that you make a good point. Weren't Reading in the top 6 when we beat them too? And Watford were top 6 PREM when we beat them at their place in the cup I believe..... (Someone will google it - I don't have time!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 17 minutes ago, Super said: What's the cheating stuff about? The sending off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted November 1, 2017 Admin Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 2 hours ago, BRISTOL86 said: Jesus Christ that makes me feel sick. It is amazing looking back how bad that side seems now, but little did we all realise at the time! 1 hour ago, Super said: What's the cheating stuff about? We certainly did a job on the lad that got sent off, plenty of "off the ball" stuff on him in the first half, he was clearly losing his rag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 16 minutes ago, phantom said: It is amazing looking back how bad that side seems now, but little did we all realise at the time! We certainly did a job on the lad that got sent off, plenty of "off the ball" stuff on him in the first half, he was clearly losing his rag Their players were also trying to wind up Flint once he got booked but he rose above it every time. Professionalism. Was it the 47 who put Bryan into the stand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 Probably not regards Reading top 6, but...was an excellent win because they had not lost a home game in a long time before from memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pillred Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 8 hours ago, OldlandReddies said: Nah, not talking shite. Making the point we need to beat teams around us to be proper challengers this season. That when teams like ex prem Villa, Leeds with their history/fans and Cardiff with the expectation from the fans, the white hot atmosphere, the 'clever'/wise manager, We need to turn them over like we are doing to other teams in order to go that extra step towards getting out of this division. I, as much as any other City fan want that to happen and i hope it starts Saturday.Not talking shite. no but you are being a little pessimistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 7 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: The point is, football analytics are coming a bigger part of the game. it's increasingly being used as indicators, to track form, likely and predicted outcomes and even individual players etc. Football indicators suggested Ipswich would slump- I said it wouldn't and couldn't last as far back as the end of August when they won 4/4. It's part of the modern game and will continue to grow in influence over time. Ask @ExiledAjax and @JamesBCFC for more on this. Anyway this is my last post on football analytics for a while- we roughly are where we should be and despite their slump which was frankly on the cards, it doesn't detract from winning up there and the fine result, display. I thought you were busy squealing to the Feds. Who knew you were a City fan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunnyfunt Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 9 hours ago, BRISTOL86 said: Jesus Christ that makes me feel sick. I can't think why we got relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 So we're good at cheating are we? That is a ludicrous statement to make. If there was a league system for football cheats, we'd be in National League South for an eternity. For cheating, we're not capable of joining the elite such as Leeds, or any club managed by Colin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 9 hours ago, Super said: What's the cheating stuff about? What they mean is beating them. I do agree however that we are much more streetwise than I've seen us for ages . We have learnt how to manage games . We look so assured it's incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 2 hours ago, REDOXO said: I thought you were busy squealing to the Feds. Who knew you were a City fan! I wondered who would be the first... We do have some famous fans mind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfieldred Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 The good news is on Saturday v Sunderland we couldn't play accurate counter attack balls because it was hurricane conditions and we still won, through toughness and persistence. This shows we aren't a one style team. That means a lot in this division. Where as the Fulham fans pointed out- teams get worked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 Well I’ll be supporting them on telly Friday so hopefully that returns the favour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 19 hours ago, CrazyInWeston said: When we were running away with league one, teams were just jealous. "They hate us because they aint us!" This used to amuse me no end. Most other teams fans commented on how we weren't that good, fresh off of another pounding by the reds and us sitting clear at the top. You couldn't really respond as the league doesn't lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said: I wondered who would be the first... We do have some famous fans mind! Steve Lamsdown. Bald Rick. John Cleese Carry Grant you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 9 hours ago, BRISTOL86 said: Their players were also trying to wind up Flint once he got booked but he rose above it every time. Professionalism. Was it the 47 who put Bryan into the stand? It was. And he had a tangle with O'Dowda too. He was a read card waiting to happen so I guess we helped turn the screw a bit. Sad thing is as I expect others have said us they looked a better team without him.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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