View from the Dolman Posted November 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 That video footage looks pretty definitive to me. Kamara is no lightweight, I think you could easily go to ground with a shove from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 8 minutes ago, phantom said: Question is if the ref DIDN'T see any contact etc, WHY did he send the player off? Surely the ref has to see an incident and not just ASSUME the player has done wrong? I was at the game and saw Bailey go down but my attention was on the Ref booking Flint at the time. I remember Joe going over to the linesman and asking him to speak to the Ref, so I guess it was him that advised the Ref to give the red card. Cannot see anything wrong with the decision at the time or now with video evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge1981 Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 This is the first time I’ve actually watched the incident as the highlights didn’t show it. How the hell can they say that isn’t a red card? How the hell can they say Wright was play acting? What an absolute joke!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globe Trotter Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 Absolutely farcical miscarriage of justice. How are City not allowed to appeal this? Ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, Super said: I hope this hasnt changed anything. Baker should only play if fully fit we dont want to risk him missing more than one game. Well it has changed the situation by default. I reckon we were planning to play Bryan, Flint, Magnússon or Baker (if fit), Wright. Now we will have to choose from Vyner, Smith and Brownhill as right back. That statement from Ashton indicates to me that this has severely messed up our plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 5 minutes ago, Tomarse said: The force of Kamara's push is definitely enough to cause Wright to fall backwards, but have the 'panel' concluded that its simulation based on his landing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeak Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 Utterly baffling. Almost a comically bad decision apart from the fact it totally screws us over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 This is the first time I have seen this footage, this is embarrassing for the FA and whoever is on their panel. This obviously is a slur on a players reputation, I wonder whether legal action will be considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: Well it has changed the situation by default. I reckon we were planning to play Bryan, Flint, Magnússon or Baker (if fit), Wright. Now we will have to choose from Vyner, Smith and Brownhill as right back. That statement from Ashton indicates to me that this has severely messed up our plans. What I mean is if Baker wasn't going to play tomorrow before this news he still shouldn't play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 Wright doesn't seem the play acting sort anyway which makes this decision very bizarre. We were 2-0 up at the time, there's no real incentive to try and get someone sent off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 1 minute ago, Super said: What I mean is if Baker wasn't going to play tomorrow before this news he still shouldn't play. I see, well it might force Johnson's hand. In the pre-match video he was, I felt, very vague on Baker. Didn't want to dwell on him too much. Really wouldn't be surprised if he plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 I find this one of the most bizarre decisions ive ever seen or heard of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 9 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: Looks vulnerable. I feel Flint plays far better with Wright and Baker. He'd have to be constantly watching and organising Magnússon and Vyner which doesn't help his game. That all goes without saying really, shame about Pisano, Baker and now Wright all seemingly being out. Hopefully our forward 6’s ability to tear teams open will make up for our defensive frailty in Maggs and Vyner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Jimmer Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 A staggering decision. I mean, even if there was an element of play acting how on earth can they definitely prove that he wasn't injured from the fall? Mental shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 5 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: Absolutely this!! Why the hell did the Ref (or assistants) order the Red card, IF they saw now contact?! The radio commentators immediately said that the player had raised his hands to Bailey’s face. That’s a Red card. Slightly disappointing IF Wright has exaggerated a slight tap to the face, but nothing in the rules states the level of contact needed. It’s also off the ball. The highlights didn’t show it, so what footage to they have that categorically confirms that there was no contact, or intent to make contact..? Exaggerated? Doesn’t really matter. But It’s evident that Kamara has raised his arm and then caught Wright with his arm from elbow up to shoulder. it doesn’t take much of a nudge to your nose for it to all ‘fizz-up", and judging by Wright’s nose, it won’t have been the first time. I can’t see how they overturned it, let alone decide Wright has faked it. Unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellfire Corner Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 I put on another thread that I had met a group of Fulham fans in the pub after the game. They told me that they had seen their no. 47 hit Bailey and that he deserved to be sent off. They were sitting near the half way line near the incident - and that is from Fulham fans!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 This is insane... The bloke storms up to Bailey and smashes him to the ground. Bailey literally does nothing, 2 match ban. Kamara, ah carry on son. WEIRD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 4 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: Wright doesn't seem the play acting sort anyway which makes this decision very bizarre. We were 2-0 up at the time, there's no real incentive to try and get someone sent off. ....he’s an Aussie too, they don’t like their men acting like Shiela’s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 Be interested to know who was on that panel?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 Colin must be pissing himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC J Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 Absolute ******* disgrace, I'm seething. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackofromSanJavier Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 If it's simulation you're after............ now THIS is simulation in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 5 minutes ago, Dave said: This is the first time I have seen this footage, this is embarrassing for the FA and whoever is on their panel. This obviously is a slur on a players reputation, I wonder whether legal action will be considered. I sincerely hope so. The FA should be held to account for its bizarre and inconsistent decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 I try to see these things from a unbiased perspective, which often leaves me at odds with the majority of supporters. But in this instance, I'm disgusted. The Fulham player has quite clearly raised his arms. There is absolutely no way a video panel can be anywhere near certain that Wright has "simulated" the fall. An absolute disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 13 minutes ago, Super said: Be interested to know who was on that panel?! Slava Jokanovic, Shaheed Khan and Terry McCann out of Minder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, Andy082005 said: I find this one of the most bizarre decisions ive ever seen or heard of Me too. Cannot understand how anyone, several people, could come to this decision on that evidence. I am looking at this without bias, if it was our player raising his arms I would say he deserved to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 The problem maybe is he goes down holding his face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted November 3, 2017 Admin Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 4 minutes ago, Super said: Be interested to know who was on that panel?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzos Only Goal Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 8 minutes ago, Squeak said: Utterly baffling. Almost a comically bad decision apart from the fact it totally screws us over. This is an utter scam, money has exchanged hands here. You cant tell me that Calvert-Lewin and Aguero are not simulating and somehow direct contact with the player, pushing him to the floor and what looks like an elbow flying in too is simulation. Complete shambles and it screws us!!! https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2017/aug/23/calvert-lewin-kyle-walker-retrospective-action-simulation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellfire Corner Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 Quote from Fulham forum just now “Really?I thinking fall over pretty sharpish if kamara charged into me like that?He was facing him when he did it, and had his arms up! If someone did that in the street they'd be arrested! Extremely fortunate that it's been overturned imo” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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