joe jordans teeth Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 9 minutes ago, italian dave said: No it's not just skin colour, but generally the English and the Welsh would be considered the same race I'd guess. And I'm not sure how this is relevant, racism is disgusting wherever and whenever, it's not somehow excused or less abhorrent just because the Welsh and the English are chucking insults at each other. I said it was disgusting but people need to use racism in context and not pick and choose what is or isn't,because the English and Welsh are white they are considered the same race you said oh dear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilksi Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 They weren’t thrown out. I was sat 3 rows behind you and saw you arguing with them. I didn’t hear what was said but notice you went and didn’t come back. About 5 mins before the end of the game 2 stewards came and sat in your seats and had a word with them. They then started shouting and swearing at the stewards at full time but nothing was done. They left the second the whistle went. One of the stewards got on the radio and was describing them to security box. Don’t know if anything else happened once they left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 16 minutes ago, italian dave said: No it's not just skin colour, but generally the English and the Welsh would be considered the same race I'd guess. And I'm not sure how this is relevant, racism is disgusting wherever and whenever, it's not somehow excused or less abhorrent just because the Welsh and the English are chucking insults at each other. Yep, we're all members of the human race, Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cider_boy Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 1 minute ago, Wilksi said: They weren’t thrown out. I was sat 3 rows behind you and saw you arguing with them. I didn’t hear what was said but notice you went and didn’t come back. About 5 mins before the end of the game 2 stewards came and sat in your seats and had a word with them. They then started shouting and swearing at the stewards at full time but nothing was done. They left the second the whistle went. One of the stewards got on the radio and was describing them to security box. Don’t know if anything else happened once they left. So at least the stewards can report which seats they were in. Given the quality of the cctv in the ground too, the club should have no problem identifying them if they choose to (and they better had, otherwise banning the card display at the start of the game seems even more pointless if they let racists get away with it when reported by real fans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 1 hour ago, RedDave said: Had to move seats as was two on one and I would have got decked! Not the sort of behaviour I expect from a fellow Red, where were the Stewards Dave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Fordy62 said: Bell ends everywhere you go Dave I’m afraid, not least at football matches. But great to see a thread full of unanimous condemnation for these idiots. Such neanderthals are thankfully a tiny minority that will hopefully soon die out altogether. It does make me wonder if a footballer came out, whether the homophobia would rain down from the stands as people fear. My instinct is that it wouldn't these days, but perhaps I'm being naive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizyer Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 1 hour ago, RedDave said: Had to move seats as was two on one and I would have got decked! Good for you for confronting racism. As they say.....for evil to succeed good men (and women) have to stay silent. Hope the club follow this up. If not we all need to put pressure on them to do so and make it clear to the morons that racism is never acceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 7 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said: But great to see a thread full of unanimous condemnation for these idiots. Such neanderthals are thankfully a tiny minority that will hopefully soon die out altogether. It does make me wonder if a footballer came out, whether the homophobia would rain down from the stands as people fear. My instinct is that it wouldn't these days, but perhaps I'm being naive. I'm sure if he went down easily and someone shouted get up you tart then there would be a thread started about it on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42nite Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 Wonder what @JulieHmakes of this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redinthehead Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: I'm sure if he went down easily and someone shouted get up you tart then there would be a thread started about it on here Not really sure what point you’re trying to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 Good on you @RedDave for confronting them (at personal risk to yourself it seems) and if what others have said re. the stewards at the end hopefully they will be permanently excluded. It would be nice to know the outcome - not just for you but so others can see that if they have the courage to speak up then action will follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 FairPlay for doing something @RedDave, shame nobody around you took your side. Take a lot of balls to stand up and confront someone at a football game. Hope your actions have consequences for the “offenders” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted November 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 The club have my number if they need me and I will be contacting them if they dont contact me. Glad to hear stewards were taking action. Thankfully my 6 year old didnt hear the language but unfortunately he was shook up that he saw his (normally very laid back dad) in a shouting match and I had to convince him to go to South Stand rather than go home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 17 minutes ago, RedDave said: The club have my number if they need me and I will be contacting them if they dont contact me. Glad to hear stewards were taking action. Thankfully my 6 year old didnt hear the language but unfortunately he was shook up that he saw his (normally very laid back dad) in a shouting match and I had to convince him to go to South Stand rather than go home Impressive to have the courage to stand up to the racist, especially when I take it nobody else in the area attempted to intervene. If only as a collective we could all stand up together against the moronic reprobates who infect society. Imagine if everybody had stood in unison, pointing at the racist and calling him out on it. Quite often, we seem content to let such people continue their abusive / despicable behaviour. I guess this is through the fear of what could happen - such as the racist becoming violent and attacking the accuser. One big positive, in a stadium of over 21000 people, this uneducated idiot might have been the only lowlife to use such an offensive word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted November 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 23 minutes ago, reddogkev said: Impressive to have the courage to stand up to the racist, especially when I take it nobody else in the area attempted to intervene. If only as a collective we could all stand up together against the moronic reprobates who infect society. Imagine if everybody had stood in unison, pointing at the racist and calling him out on it. Quite often, we seem content to let such people continue their abusive / despicable behaviour. I guess this is through the fear of what could happen - such as the racist becoming violent and attacking the accuser. One big positive, in a stadium of over 21000 people, this uneducated idiot might have been the only lowlife to use such an offensive word. What we will never know is how many people have read this thread and thought 'snitch' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 7 minutes ago, RedDave said: What we will never know is how many people have read this thread and thought 'snitch' True, we'll never know, but I'd wager zero would be the answer. Thinking about your response, this evening, the racist will no doubt consider the fact they were confronted and then reprimanded by the stewards, and might have second thoughts next time - unlikely I know - but possible nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted November 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, reddogkev said: True, we'll never know, but I'd wager zero would be the answer. Thinking about your response, this evening, the racist will no doubt consider the fact they were confronted and then reprimanded by the stewards, and might have second thoughts next time - unlikely I know - but possible nonetheless. Pretty sure he was drunk so is probably asleep now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 3 hours ago, RedDave said: Big dampener on the day being sat in front of a racist. Awful language all game which isnt ideal around kids but I dont really mind it as it is a football match. The second it becomes racist I do have a problem. Hope you get a ban and get some anger managment lessons. To turn on me when I confront you as well is very poor in front of my lad Can you elaborate politely? Against the Welsh? If so, he's one of thousands of racists today I expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 18 minutes ago, RedDave said: What we will never know is how many people have read this thread and thought 'snitch' None,just like the bloke who said it won't be on here reading it but hey ho it's the top thread on here after another city win,one bloke shouting racist comments again,maybe it's the same bloke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never give up Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 3 hours ago, RedDave said: Big dampener on the day being sat in front of a racist. Awful language all game which isnt ideal around kids but I dont really mind it as it is a football match. The second it becomes racist I do have a problem. Hope you get a ban and get some anger managment lessons. To turn on me when I confront you as well is very poor in front of my lad Well done for confronting and reporting. Disgusting to hear racist language used from these pathetic excuses for humans. Terrible thing is I heard racism during the Leeds game and reported it the club also. Make sure you also contact the club and give the seat area so it’s an official complaint. One of the worst things for me is the response I got on here when I posted. People accusing me of making it up, hearing it incorrectly, taking things too seriously, being a Rovers fan, and lacking evidence. Clearly there are still racist ***** within the ground and we need to all shut them down together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, Never give up said: Well done for confronting and reporting. Disgusting to hear racist language used from these pathetic excuses for humans. Terrible thing is I heard racism during the Leeds game and supported it the club also. Make sure you also contact the club and give the seat area so it’s an official complaint. One of the worst things for me is the response I got on here when I posted. People accusing me of making it up, hearing it incorrectly, taking things too seriously, being a Rovers fan, and lacking evidence. Clearly there are still racist ***** within the ground and we need to all shut them down together. Why you supporting racist comments to the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chivs Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 3 hours ago, joe jordans teeth said: You haven't said what was said,racism is awful without doubt but I heard more than 8000 singling out Welsh folk today or is that banter I heard over 3000 singled out the Welsh and calling them "sheep shaggers". Disgraceful racism. Or perhaps the Cardiff fans thought it was banter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never give up Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 22 minutes ago, RedDave said: What we will never know is how many people have read this thread and thought 'snitch' Non probably. We’re not 9 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never give up Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 1 minute ago, joe jordans teeth said: Why you supporting racist comments to the club *reporting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, Chivs said: I heard over 3000 singled out the Welsh and calling them "sheep shaggers". Disgraceful racism. Or perhaps the Cardiff fans thought it was banter. Exactly,don't give into the snow flakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 It's not good, no doubt about it. If identified, the culprits certainly need banning. On the other hand, it shows how far football has come that this is a major thread...the fact is a major thread shows how rare and unusual it is these days at football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 5 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: It's not good, no doubt about it. If identified, the culprits certainly need banning. On the other hand, it shows how far football has come that this is a major thread...the fact is a major thread shows how rare and unusual it is these days at football. Good point,maybe this should be moved out of the football forum seeing it has nothing to do with football but society,mods move to non football section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 19 minutes ago, Chivs said: I heard over 3000 singled out the Welsh and calling them "sheep shaggers". Disgraceful racism. Or perhaps the Cardiff fans thought it was banter. The same 3000 who were calling themselves "sheep shagging bastards". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Constant Rabbit Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 Fair Play Dave - I have often disagreed with you, but you set a great example to your son about what is right and what is wrong. My only worry for you is if they have only been spoken to, they will know full well who reported them - and might not be too happy. You did say they were very aggressive. For your own safety, might be worthwhile to check with the club - doing the right thing should not lead to you having your head kicked in after the next home game. If they are still there, at the least, the club should get you a new couple of seats, otherwise people may think twice about confronting this terrible stuff, for fear of recriminations later. Maybe one for @Mkelly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the frampton balti Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 8 hours ago, Shtanley said: FairPlay for doing something @RedDave, shame nobody around you took your side. Take a lot of balls to stand up and confront someone at a football game. Hope your actions have consequences for the “offenders” only one surely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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