JoeAman08 Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 17 minutes ago, Monkeh said: thats where I completely disagree, He wasn't up to the championship, no where near that standard, he wasn't use to English football, the best place to learn to play in England is in England, It wouldn't of hurt his under 21's chances if he worked hard and performed, Tom Lockyear can get into the Welsh squad and he's at the gas, Wales are better the Sweden at the moment Decision he made though. I did not agree either but I do understand why ge thought it would be beneficial to go back to Sweden. The U21 coaches would have been in Sweden so easier access to him and in a more familiar and comfortable environment which we would all prefer in our workplace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said: Decision he made though. I did not agree either but I do understand why ge thought it would be beneficial to go back to Sweden. The U21 coaches would have been in Sweden so easier access to him and in a more familiar and comfortable environment which we would all prefer in our workplace. if you were the main striker which he is then it wouldn't matter who you played for, a coach would of came and watched him, They watched Joel Asoro enough to call him up, and he's only played for Sunderland reserves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 36 minutes ago, Monkeh said: if you were the main striker which he is then it wouldn't matter who you played for, a coach would of came and watched him, They watched Joel Asoro enough to call him up, and he's only played for Sunderland reserves It is fair enough but it is not the debate I am really on about. He made the decision and again I did not agree but he felt it was best for himself which now that it is a year on is ok. My argument now is that if he decides he wants to try and make it here he has 2.5 years to do so. So if he does decide to get his head down here he needs to take our advice from now on. Players mature a different times. Bobby Reid can attest to that so his age isn’t a big deal for me. Work hard here until Janury. Go on loan then come back and have a strong preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalcub Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 If Taylor can make the bench /start occasionally for us I really cannot see why engvall isn't involved ? He's easily on a par with Taylor and in my opinion has more about him than Taylor . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxo Jr. Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 2 hours ago, bengalcub said: If Taylor can make the bench /start occasionally for us I really cannot see why engvall isn't involved ? He's easily on a par with Taylor and in my opinion has more about him than Taylor . Completely different players. Taylor is effectively battling with Reid for a starting place, whereas Engvall is up against Duric, Diedhiou and Woodrow when they're all fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalcub Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 I would say , Taylor plays last man , Reid plays a no 10 role ? For me engvall would be ahead of Taylor and Woodrow !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxo Jr. Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 I think Taylor plays the same role as Reid, but as you said with more emphasis on the last man, so a mixture of the two. From what I've seen, there's no way I'd put Engvall ahead of Taylor. Not seen enough of Woodrow to judge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mortis Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 On 11/6/2017 at 11:17, Eastside Moonwalker said: To be honest this is probably the best time for him to come back, give a rest to Bobby for the game again Preston maybe seeing that preston injured another defender on the weekend (pretty sure that's 7 defenders out now) Never in my 40 + years of watching Preston have I seen injuries like it , we have 11 players out and two suspended for the next game v Bolton , of those 11 I would think 8/9 would be in the first team squad so we really are in trouble , Jan cannot come soon enough - we could easily be in the bottom third unless this squad can somehow grind a result out from somewhere and whilst we look good when confidence is high and the pressing game is working , a young squad with major injuries and we are in the situation we are in eg in freefall ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 Hope we can take advantage of Preston's problems! Also won't Hull have a new manager by then and the dreaded new boss bounce?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted November 15, 2017 Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 Confirmed that he is NOT available until the window reopens: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted November 15, 2017 Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 I see his coming home Via the Maldives !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted November 15, 2017 Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 1 hour ago, BobBobSuperBob said: I see his coming home Via the Maldives !!!! Bloody Ryanair. I bet he ends up waiting two or three weeks for a rearranged flight too. He should sue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted November 15, 2017 Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 On 7 November 2017 at 11:01, bengalcub said: If Taylor can make the bench /start occasionally for us I really cannot see why engvall isn't involved ? He's easily on a par with Taylor and in my opinion has more about him than Taylor . How can you make that judgement when we've seen hardly anything of Engvall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted November 15, 2017 Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 On 7 November 2017 at 08:54, Monkeh said: thats where I completely disagree, He wasn't up to the championship, no where near that standard, he wasn't use to English football, the best place to learn to play in England is in England, It wouldn't of hurt his under 21's chances if he worked hard and performed, Tom Lockyear can get into the Welsh squad and he's at the gas, Wales are better the Sweden at the moment I think this week's win over Italy might well have disproved this last point. Wales, (even with their shedload of English born players) couldn't even manage to draw at home to Ireland. Sweden went to Italy and drew, knocking one of Europe's biggest football nations out. Sweden are actually miles better than Wales, who rely largely on just 2 players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted November 15, 2017 Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 On 06/11/2017 at 11:20, Phileas Fogg said: He can't play until January or be loaned out unfortunately. On the plus side it means he'll have 8 or 9 weeks to train hard and acclimatise to playing here again - maybe with a view to a L1/L2 loan in Jan. He's not keen on that idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted November 15, 2017 Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 He is already on sale and some Dutch side will sign for less than £1m before January Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garland-sweden Posted November 15, 2017 Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 On 2017-11-06 at 12:30, Gazred said: Doesn't seem like he was scoring much in the 2nd loan spell. Anyone know how he's been playing? Last 5-6 games no good for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Rich Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 During the whole of his loan (both spells) he has Played - 25 Scored - 8 Assists - 7. Which isn't terrible and is actually pretty similar to his form before we signed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 8 hours ago, Robert the bruce said: He's not keen on that idea! If that's the case he can bugger off and watch his career go down the pan. He will be playing for some foreign team no one has ever heard of before too long. Sometimes in life you have to take a step backwards to take a step forward and I feel if he can go to a league one or two club, get used to the English game, bang in some goals then that puts him in a great position to fight for a place in our team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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