AndySnapper Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 Can anyone explain what this means as I can find no information on the BCFC website. Apparently this is available to me as a Forever Bristol member and it applies to away and cup games. Level 3 isn't defined on my membership letter either. Am I right in assuming "Not a snowball in hell's chance" :-) Cheers! Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 I'd say it's a good chance! Level 1 - Season Card PLUS Holder Level 2 - Season Card Holder Level 3 - Forever Bristol Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 8 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said: I'd say it's a good chance! Level 1 - Season Card PLUS Holder Level 2 - Season Card Holder Level 3 - Forever Bristol Member I’m season card plus but can’t remember why that is - is it people who bought before the very first ‘deadline’ ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 I'm actually surprised that the ticketing arrangements for the Manchester game still haven't been announced. What's the holdup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: I’m season card plus but can’t remember why that is - is it people who bought before the very first ‘deadline’ ? It was because you had a ST the year before I believe, you weren't a new ST holder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 Just now, wendyredredrobin said: I'm actually surprised that the ticketing arrangements for the Manchester game still haven't been announced. What's the holdup? I think we will be hearing pretty soon. Don't worry the game is ages away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 Just now, wendyredredrobin said: I'm actually surprised that the ticketing arrangements for the Manchester game still haven't been announced. What's the holdup? Has a date been set (Tues/Wed) yet or are all games on the Tuesday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 1 minute ago, Welcome To The Jungle said: Has a date been set (Tues/Wed) yet or are all games on the Tuesday? Wednesday as its on sky and mu are playing on sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 6 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said: I'm actually surprised that the ticketing arrangements for the Manchester game still haven't been announced. What's the holdup? Start a thread about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted November 7, 2017 Admin Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 6 minutes ago, Welcome To The Jungle said: Has a date been set (Tues/Wed) yet or are all games on the Tuesday? Have you been in a cave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndySnapper Posted November 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 40 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said: I'd say it's a good chance! Level 1 - Season Card PLUS Holder Level 2 - Season Card Holder Level 3 - Forever Bristol Member Thanks for that information - very helpful. Is it then right to assume that after Level 3 it is just general public ticket issue and 'pot luck' online/phone? I'm really enjoying the season this year but very limited to what matches I can actually attend. Cheers! Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted November 7, 2017 Admin Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 6 minutes ago, AndySnapper said: Thanks for that information - very helpful. Is it then right to assume that after Level 3 it is just general public ticket issue and 'pot luck' online/phone? I'm really enjoying the season this year but very limited to what matches I can actually attend. Cheers! Andy I wonder what game you could be referring to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 39 minutes ago, phantom said: Have you been in a cave? I'm taking a year away from watching City so I'm not paying as much attention as everyone who is planning on going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, Welcome To The Jungle said: I'm taking a year away from watching City so I'm not paying as much attention as everyone who is planning on going. Was that a ‘protest’ thing? If so please keep away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, Welcome To The Jungle said: I'm taking a year away from watching City so I'm not paying as much attention as everyone who is planning on going. How are you finding your sabbatical? Glued to the radio or increasingly busy with other things that you don't really miss matchday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndySnapper Posted November 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 14 minutes ago, phantom said: I wonder what game you could be referring to What moi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 Just now, BRISTOL86 said: Was that a ‘protest’ thing? If so please keep away More a complete disillusionment with football as a whole, including aspects of Bristol City. It has nothing to do with LJ or the losing run last season if that's what you mean though. Just now, Bristol Rob said: How are you finding your sabbatical? Glued to the radio or increasingly busy with other things that you don't really miss matchday? Been dodging the radio but can't help checking my phone every 5 minutes on a match day. And I'm still on here all the time. Really hard to let it go. Obviously really want to come back with the team doing so well and getting Man U, but I'll resist. That said I've calmed down a lot and chilling out a bit regarding my opinions on Bristol Sport. Only problem is if we go up I'll look like such a glory supporter next year never mind. Mangotsfield, Manor Farm and Brisligton are treating me well in the meantime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 7 minutes ago, Welcome To The Jungle said: More a complete disillusionment with football as a whole, including aspects of Bristol City. It has nothing to do with LJ or the losing run last season if that's what you mean though. Been dodging the radio but can't help checking my phone every 5 minutes on a match day. And I'm still on here all the time. Really hard to let it go. Obviously really want to come back with the team doing so well and getting Man U, but I'll resist. That said I've calmed down a lot and chilling out a bit regarding my opinions on Bristol Sport. Only problem is if we go up I'll look like such a glory supporter next year never mind. Mangotsfield, Manor Farm and Brisligton are treating me well in the meantime. Yeah I was just curious as to whether it was related to last season as there was lots of talk of boycotts and/or refusing to renew STs but think it was mostly just bluster! Fair shout though, I understand the football (in general) disillusionment point completely. I can barely stand to watch a Premier League game these days and I used to watch literally any game going at any time, now I can’t even get excited about ‘marquee’ games. Either way if current form continues then it’s clearly down to you, so kindly don’t come next season either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSSEL85 Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 I decided not to renew this season after 15 consecutive seasons, why? 80% Study for ACCA finals, 10% LJ (I wasn't impressed at the time), 9% money and the final 1% The f*****g parking Do I regret it? A little yes, as we are doing very well, getting great crowds, playing attractive football, plus I have been offered a ticket for the Man U game which I have politely refused and told them to give it someone more deserving than me who has actually been to AG this year. I hope to come back next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldlandReddies Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 4 hours ago, RUSSEL85 said: I decided not to renew this season after 15 consecutive seasons, why? 80% Study for ACCA finals, 10% LJ (I wasn't impressed at the time), 9% money and the final 1% The f*****g parking Do I regret it? A little yes, as we are doing very well, getting great crowds, playing attractive football, plus I have been offered a ticket for the Man U game which I have politely refused and told them to give it someone more deserving than me who has actually been to AG this year. I hope to come back next season. Get yourself a half season ticket or as a minimum a membership now as, if we go up, there will be nowt left to go around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 17 hours ago, Welcome To The Jungle said: More a complete disillusionment with football as a whole, including aspects of Bristol City. It has nothing to do with LJ or the losing run last season if that's what you mean though. Been dodging the radio but can't help checking my phone every 5 minutes on a match day. And I'm still on here all the time. Really hard to let it go. Obviously really want to come back with the team doing so well and getting Man U, but I'll resist. That said I've calmed down a lot and chilling out a bit regarding my opinions on Bristol Sport. Only problem is if we go up I'll look like such a glory supporter next year never mind. Mangotsfield, Manor Farm and Brisligton are treating me well in the meantime. If we go up, I doubt you’ll get tickets for many games next season..! I’d swallow my pride, accept that I’ve made my point by missing a large chunk of arguably our best season (the club as a whole) for decades, and be getting a half season ticket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 8 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: If we go up, I doubt you’ll get tickets for many games next season..! I’d swallow my pride, accept that I’ve made my point by missing a large chunk of arguably our best season (the club as a whole) for decades, and be getting a half season ticket. But I haven't made my point yet...if not to anyone but myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 12 minutes ago, Welcome To The Jungle said: But I haven't made my point yet...if not to anyone but myself. Fair enough. Out of interest... what is your point..? I’m only saying this as a fellow supporter who wouldn’t want anyone to be missing out on what we are doing at the moment. Who knows where it might lead, yet. But I presume you, like the rest of us, have endured many, many years of tough times. It seems a shame to miss out on what’s on the horizon, when so much about the place is so good. Maybe, even, the gripes that you had (some/many of) were actually unfounded and formed when it all looked like it wasn’t working. The difference this season is incredible and you’d be a fool to miss it because of stubbornness, if that were the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 @Bar BS3 I wouldn't like to presume to speak for @Welcome To The Jungle but I have a certain thinking that posters view on this goes deeper than merely City, even than Bristol Sport. Essentially the money, the cost, the hype, the commercialism. Necessary evils yes.. However, there's a campaign that's wider spread in Europe than here called "Against Modern Football" Has a fanzine, appears on banners and so on. Perhaps WTTJ subscribes to some of this? http://mancunion.com/2012/11/12/taking-a-stand-against-modern-football/ Not City related. but an interesting read on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 19 hours ago, AndySnapper said: Thanks for that information - very helpful. Is it then right to assume that after Level 3 it is just general public ticket issue and 'pot luck' online/phone? I'm really enjoying the season this year but very limited to what matches I can actually attend. Cheers! Andy Yes , they will go on general sale if there are any left. 19 hours ago, Welcome To The Jungle said: More a complete disillusionment with football as a whole, including aspects of Bristol City. It has nothing to do with LJ or the losing run last season if that's what you mean though. Been dodging the radio but can't help checking my phone every 5 minutes on a match day. And I'm still on here all the time. Really hard to let it go. Obviously really want to come back with the team doing so well and getting Man U, but I'll resist. That said I've calmed down a lot and chilling out a bit regarding my opinions on Bristol Sport. Only problem is if we go up I'll look like such a glory supporter next year never mind. Mangotsfield, Manor Farm and Brisligton are treating me well in the meantime. I did that for a while. Had some of the best seats in the Williams and long story but the price would have doubled , so after not missing a home game for about 25 years I stopped going. I actually went to the PO final as a total glory hunter Really enjoyed it since I started going again, as much for seeing mates again as the football , but helps when the team are flying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 19 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: @Bar BS3 I wouldn't like to presume to speak for @Welcome To The Jungle but I have a certain thinking that posters view on this goes deeper than merely City, even than Bristol Sport. Essentially the money, the cost, the hype, the commercialism. Necessary evils yes.. However, there's a campaign that's wider spread in Europe than here called "Against Modern Football" Has a fanzine, appears on banners and so on. Perhaps WTTJ subscribes to some of this? Yes, I’m aware of all that. My post was simply suggesting that rather than miss what is potentially our best period in living memory, for many, he may want to think about whether his “proving a point” is worth that. If he feels that it is, then that’s fine. Unfortunately the AMF campaign fails to understand that the “modern” game is as it is because it’s fitting in with “modern” times. I understand what us “old school” fans don’t like about it. The question is how many of those vocal AMF campaigners line the pockets of the beast (Sky) with their subscriptions..? And how many of them cry out for big money signings to chase success for their teams..? The facts are that (particularly our) attendances have seen a massive increase. I understand that some people would prefer to pay half the amount to stand on an open/crumbling terrace and still piss against a brick wall, whilst ankle deep in others bodily waste, but when that was the serving on offer, we’d often struggle to get half the numbers through the turnstiles that we are getting now and supporting your team was quite a dangerous pastime. Times have changed and people are flocking to it. Rightly or wrongly, that’s how it is. I certainly wouldn’t want to miss the progress that we are making on, and off the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 28 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: Yes , they will go on general sale if there are any left. I did that for a while. Had some of the best seats in the Williams and long story but the price would have doubled , so after not missing a home game for about 25 years I stopped going. I actually went to the PO final as a total glory hunter Really enjoyed it since I started going again, as much for seeing mates again as the football , but helps when the team are flying. i think Mike , most of our age group struggle or have struggled with this at times The outrageous money involved , combined with facets of the ‘modern game’ and the attitilude of too many players is something I really struggle with For large parts of our lives - players didn’t earn that much more than those watching and the relationship between players and fans has massively changed (I feel fortunate to have watched football in the eras I have) The squad in Cotts double season gave me a massive lift / boost for the game , in their football and attitude , and thankfully we now have what appears to be a decent set of lads , who give their all , and that makes us , right at this moment , luckier than most and I’m grateful for that Thevthought of the Premiership and some ego riddled overvrated player(s) pulling on the red shirt , if they can be bothered ... not sure I could stomach that If we ever get there I pray our recruitment is sound , but avoiding all the ego dicks is extremely difficult at that level although Burnley and a couple of others continue to do it brilliantly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Red Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 19 hours ago, RUSSEL85 said: I decided not to renew this season after 15 consecutive seasons, why? 80% Study for ACCA finals, 10% LJ (I wasn't impressed at the time), 9% money and the final 1% The f*****g parking Do I regret it? A little yes, as we are doing very well, getting great crowds, playing attractive football, plus I have been offered a ticket for the Man U game which I have politely refused and told them to give it someone more deserving than me who has actually been to AG this year. I hope to come back next season. Only 1% parking!! One part of the matchday experience which is awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Bar BS3 said: Fair enough. Out of interest... what is your point..? I’m only saying this as a fellow supporter who wouldn’t want anyone to be missing out on what we are doing at the moment. Who knows where it might lead, yet. But I presume you, like the rest of us, have endured many, many years of tough times. It seems a shame to miss out on what’s on the horizon, when so much about the place is so good. Maybe, even, the gripes that you had (some/many of) were actually unfounded and formed when it all looked like it wasn’t working. The difference this season is incredible and you’d be a fool to miss it because of stubbornness, if that were the case. What is my point? Good question. Many things but if you boil it down then you're left with my belief that Football Clubs are all unique in terms of their relationship with the people they represent when compared to other businesses. Sadly fans are being treated less like supporters and more like customers in England (not just BCFC). For me this boils down to one phrase. "A supporter is charged as little as possible, a customer is charged as much as possible". I was disappointed to see the Man U ticket prices being so high. When compared to other English clubs our pricing isn't totally unreasonable but on a Global scale, we are a complete rip off. This saddens me when smaller (in terms of potential fanbase) clubs like Huddersfield can charge £179 for STs last season (anywhere in the ground) and yet they can achieve great success. If they can do it, why can't we, especially as we are owned by a financial genius. This move away from supporter to customer has changed fans from feeling like participants in a football match, cheering and roaring the team on, to spectators, merely reacting to what is happening on the pitch. Compare any English atmosphere to any atmosphere abroad and the fans have a completely different desire to change the outcome of a match by their own power, in a way we just don't. Arsenal football club are Case Study #1. Over charged fans, don't make a sound, whinge about it afterwards. They are treated like customers with 1k Season Tickets and so act like it. This is replicated in part all over England on different scales. And for what? All this money we spend goes into the pockets of agents, scrupulous owners and players who are: A) More disconnected from the fanbase than ever, B) Often happy to lie a cheat (diving) to earn a win, C) Show less loyalty to the clubs they are at. Again a broad stroke at players which isn't always true but is certainly a trend most of us see and dislike. Especially when players here are again payed grossly more than other countries. I've been to several grounds around Europe and every time I go I feel profoundly jealous of what simply does not exist in England. Simply put, they have Fan Culture, and this has developed from their relationship with their clubs that has been quashed here. I believe that pricing has long since shown fans their worth, and as a result, fans have expected more of the club, and less of themselves in return for their money. I have other gripes like Bristol Sports disregard for Bristol Rugbys history and home shirt by covering it in red. I'm also not a fan of anyone, no matter how much they may pay, who dodges paying taxes so SL does not sit right with me. Which is a shame as we do a lot right. Hmmm, maybe not the boiled down version I hoped. TL;DR Ticket prices are too high across the whole country. 27 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: @Bar BS3 I wouldn't like to presume to speak for @Welcome To The Jungle but I have a certain thinking that posters view on this goes deeper than merely City, even than Bristol Sport. Essentially the money, the cost, the hype, the commercialism. Necessary evils yes.. However, there's a campaign that's wider spread in Europe than here called "Against Modern Football" Has a fanzine, appears on banners and so on. Perhaps WTTJ subscribes to some of this? http://mancunion.com/2012/11/12/taking-a-stand-against-modern-football/ Not City related. but an interesting read on this. Less hatred of Modern Football, more the English model of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooRya Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, Welcome To The Jungle said: What is my point? Good question. Many things but if you boil it down then you're left with my belief that Football Clubs are all unique in terms of their relationship with the people they represent when compared to other businesses. Sadly fans are being treated less like supporters and more like customers in England (not just BCFC). For me this boils down to one phrase. "A supporter is charged as little as possible, a customer is charged as much as possible". I was disappointed to see the Man U ticket prices being so high. When compared to other English clubs our pricing isn't totally unreasonable but on a Global scale, we are a complete rip off. This saddens me when smaller (in terms of potential fanbase) clubs like Huddersfield can charge £179 for STs last season (anywhere in the ground) and yet they can achieve great success. If they can do it, why can't we, especially as we are owned by a financial genius. This move away from supporter to customer has changed fans from feeling like participants in a football match, cheering and roaring the team on, to spectators, merely reacting to what is happening on the pitch. Compare any English atmosphere to any atmosphere abroad and the fans have a completely different desire to change the outcome of a match by their own power, in a way we just don't. Arsenal football club are Case Study #1. Over charged fans, don't make a sound, whinge about it afterwards. They are treated like customers with 1k Season Tickets and so act like it. This is replicated in part all over England on different scales. And for what? All this money we spend goes into the pockets of agents, scrupulous owners and players who are: A) More disconnected from the fanbase than ever, B) Often happy to lie a cheat (diving) to earn a win, C) Show less loyalty to the clubs they are at. Again a broad stroke at players which isn't always true but is certainly a trend most of us see and dislike. Especially when players here are again payed grossly more than other countries. I've been to several grounds around Europe and every time I go I feel profoundly jealous of what simply does not exist in England. Simply put, they have Fan Culture, and this has developed from their relationship with their clubs that has been quashed here. I believe that pricing has long since shown fans their worth, and as a result, fans have expected more of the club, and less of themselves in return for their money. I have other gripes like Bristol Sports disregard for Bristol Rugbys history and home shirt by covering it in red. I'm also not a fan of anyone, no matter how much they may pay, who dodges paying taxes so SL does not sit right with me. Which is a shame as we do a lot right. Hmmm, maybe not the boiled down version I hoped. TL;DR Ticket prices are too high across the whole country. Less hatred of Modern Football, more the English model of football. Good read that. And I'm sure many, many of us feel exactly the same way about the points you make. However, personally speaking, after 40 years I still absolutely love going down to The Gate to watch City. All the things I hate about "the modern game" go out of the window during the 2 hours I'm sat there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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