DT The Optimist Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 I have just watched the LJ interview on the main site after the game yesterday. He was asked about the reasons for playing, starting , MT instead of MD The explanation, to me at least, is that they have to really careful with MD as the 'other side' tends to go after such an injury, and he quoted some other famous players who so suffered similar injuries. The clear inference is he's not fit and things are still a long way from being 'right' with him. Clearly an important player for us, but have this feeling we might have to look at loan market in January for a striker as well ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eardun Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 Yes and it sounded like it is going to take a few months for Djuric to be right. A shame, but on the bright side, just imagine the player we will have when he is fully fit. Just hope that we will see that later this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 He still wins every ball !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 I think LJ is quite cautious with players, other ex-pros often say they were almost never fully fit during their career. I think there may have been a bit more tactical reasoning behind his team choices, he will be looking at the Preston game as another home game where we need a battering ram, so is keeping ME back for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedYoshi Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 13 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: I think LJ is quite cautious with players, other ex-pros often say they were almost never fully fit during their career. I think there may have been a bit more tactical reasoning behind his team choices, he will be looking at the Preston game as another home game where we need a battering ram, so is keeping ME back for that. Hmm, perhaps, though I’ve heard he can’t hit a barn door down in Pilton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 I think it was fairly clear that Duric isn't 100% fit. He just wasn't moving right for me. I don't think he's the quickest at the best of times, but he just didn't seem to be very mobile yesterday. He still looks like a nightmare to play against mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 19 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: I think LJ is quite cautious with players, other ex-pros often say they were almost never fully fit during their career. I think there may have been a bit more tactical reasoning behind his team choices, he will be looking at the Preston game as another home game where we need a battering ram, And so he should be cautious. He and virtually everyone else knows that if anyone isn't 100% then by playing them seriously increases the likelihood of worsening the problem. In Djurics case he's clearly not fully fit but LJ felt he might be ok for 20/30mins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 25 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: I think LJ is quite cautious with players, other ex-pros often say they were almost never fully fit during their career. I think there may have been a bit more tactical reasoning behind his team choices, he will be looking at the Preston game as another home game where we need a battering ram, so is keeping ME back for that. I agree. Start Milan on Tuesday to rough up their two young and inexperienced CBs but go back to MT/BR v Hull where the game will be more suited to that style of play with them having Dawson & Hector at the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT The Optimist Posted November 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 The question has to be asked was he fit when we signed him. You would have thought a medical would have shown up long standing issues. Having said that Andy Carroll has moved around many clubs and he is for ever on treatment tables. If not always crocked would be an England regular (also Jack Wiltshire). Going back to Duric seems trains little at present to keep him for matches. Be interesting to see how it pans out and hope for the best. Even when not fit seems to win everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman85 Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 1 hour ago, DT The Optimist said: I have just watched the LJ interview on the main site after the game yesterday. He was asked about the reasons for playing, starting , MT instead of MD The explanation, to me at least, is that they have to really careful with MD as the 'other side' tends to go after such an injury, and he quoted some other famous players who so suffered similar injuries. The clear inference is he's not fit and things are still a long way from being 'right' with him. Clearly an important player for us, but have this feeling we might have to look at loan market in January for a striker as well ? 100 percent need a loan deal in January. Shame we can't send back Woodrow. Seems an ineffective signing as thought at the time. We need a target man as cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 14 minutes ago, DT The Optimist said: The question has to be asked was he fit when we signed him. You would have thought a medical would have shown up long standing issues. Having said that Andy Carroll has moved around many clubs and he is for ever on treatment tables. If not always crocked would be an England regular (also Jack Wiltshire). Going back to Duric seems trains little at present to keep him for matches. Be interesting to see how it pans out and hope for the best. Even when not fit seems to win everything The club did say that his hernia issue was masking an underlying problem with his groin which was pretty much impossible to spot until he`d had that sorted. Just one of those things really, let`s just get the best out of him when he is fit - he`s already paid back a sizeable proportion of his fee with the winner v Rotherham last season and killing off the Palace game to set up the quarter final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 Serious groin injuries have always been problematic in the long term as we found to our cost with Billy Mercer and that would appear to still be the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, tinman85 said: 100 percent need a loan deal in January. Shame we can't send back Woodrow. Seems an ineffective signing as thought at the time. We need a target man as cover. Woodrow was a bit of a rushed signing IMO. At the time we had injury worries with Taylor and Milan and had no idea how Famara would adapt. Add that to not being sure about how Bobby would fare in his new role I can see why the club had to get some insurance in. If we hadn`t and everything had gone pear shaped we`d be asking why we didn`t get someone in as back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 The trouble is these type of players are rarely fit. Look at Carroll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 21 minutes ago, Super said: The trouble is these types are rarely fit. Look at *O'Carroll. Never thought of Mrs Brown as being 'fit' tbh. .. (*edit) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 Think we could concentrate our resources on a new striker in January, Diedhiou out for a few months, Engvall & (seemingly) Woodrow not rated, Djuric with injury concerns and Taylor without a league goal in over nine months. Reid has done amazingly but without Diedhiou needs more help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 Sounds like he'll need a second operation on his groin at some stage, maybe once Diedhiou is fit again. If we don't have either we'll be a bit lightweight up front. Maybe we could get Matt Smith on loan again in Jan, doesn't seem to get into QPR's team much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 Milan had a good chance yesterday and his shot was weak. Looked like he really didnt want to strain himself with that one. Hope he is back to fitness soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 4 hours ago, JonDolman said: It seems like Woodrow isn't fancied at all now and was only brought in as an emergency 5th option. I wonder if he may go back and we get another loan in January. Sounds very bad if Johnson is comparing Duric to ledley king and Paul mcgrath. They both couldn't even train, King would swim to keep himself fit. Desperately need diedhiou back. Thought he was really beginning to show what he could do before the bad injury. Agreed. Wouldn’t be surprised to see Woodrow off and someone else in when the window opens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampshire Red Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 There is a guy at Swansea about to lose his confidence in a team going nowhere but down to the Championship Perhaps Chelski would prefer to call him back in Jan and then loan him to a team going in the other direction?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityred exile Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 Reckon Woodrow will start v Preston With MT And MD And give one of those two a cameo role if needed 20 /30 mins V HULL MD will be needed more Think will have to go like this until Jan window , FD back and running Seems AG Isnot going to be considered , Shame AW Not still here ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCRED Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 9 hours ago, chipdawg said: I think it was fairly clear that Duric isn't 100% fit. He just wasn't moving right for me. I don't think he's the quickest at the best of times, but he just didn't seem to be very mobile yesterday. He still looks like a nightmare to play against mind I don’t think he has been that mobile since he came back and looks to have filled out a bit too but not in a negative way. Still an absolute nightmare for defenders as Cardiff & Bamba found out. Probably as difficult to play against as Crouch in my opinion and a must for Tuesday even if it’s only an hour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 Re: the original title the morning after pill is available at all good clinics, it's ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 10 hours ago, Port Said Red said: I think LJ is quite cautious with players, other ex-pros often say they were almost never fully fit during their career. I think there may have been a bit more tactical reasoning behind his team choices, he will be looking at the Preston game as another home game where we need a battering ram, so is keeping ME back for that. ME? Michael Eavis? Maurice Evans? Marisol Escobar? Matthew Etherington? I'm at a loss! I'd rather play MD.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyInWeston Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 6 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: ME? Michael Eavis? Maurice Evans? Marisol Escobar? Matthew Etherington? I'm at a loss! I'd rather play MD.... Marvin Elliott? I thought he got released in 2014? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman85 Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 1 hour ago, Hampshire Red said: There is a guy at Swansea about to lose his confidence in a team going nowhere but down to the Championship Perhaps Chelski would prefer to call him back in Jan and then loan him to a team going in the other direction?! Get the lad from Arsenal on loan who scored twice v Norwich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 1 hour ago, tinman85 said: Get the lad from Arsenal on loan who scored twice v Norwich. surely we need a player with physicality to take the weight off Reid not a lightweight boy no matter how talented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobintheRed Red Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 12 hours ago, chipdawg said: I think it was fairly clear that Duric isn't 100% fit. He just wasn't moving right for me. I don't think he's the quickest at the best of times, but he just didn't seem to be very mobile yesterday. He still looks like a nightmare to play against mind totally agree funny enough i thought hed do better upfront with Taylor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobintheRed Red Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 18 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said: Agreed. Wouldn’t be surprised to see Woodrow off and someone else in when the window opens. Hopefully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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