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1 minute ago, WhistleHappy said:

Enough of this... 

TRAINS & ASHTON GATE STATION  from now on...  innit. 

Yes, I agree whole heartedly. 

For so long, South Bristol has played second fiddle to the north side of town, in terms of infrastructure and investment in the people. Just because we've now got a road to reduce the congestion of Winterstoke Rd and Parson St, the powers that be probably think that's enough for the plebs, get the money back north of the river. We need even more investment to just catch up a little. Let the train take the strain, as they once said. 

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Anyone know whether this railway would ever have the capacity to cope with football crowds? 

More importantly, where do you get on this friggin Metrobus to travel from the Stadium to Temple Meads? Will they be running more than a couple of buses to cope with demand? 

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12 minutes ago, Rich said:

 I think two carriages are proposed half hourly, so no.

Nearest bust stop, by the flats where the bowling was, and at the park and ride, so not too close.

Think at the moment it's one train every hour unless they upgrade the line through the gorge and the metrobus is a single decker every 20 minutes - basically fa for football. 

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17 minutes ago, Rich said:

 I think two carriages are proposed half hourly, so no.

Nearest bust stop, by the flats where the bowling was, and at the park and ride, so not too close.

Thanks for that. 

Metro stop locations look carp for us exiles then. Maximum stress on the 'hop and hope' to Temple Meads for the 5:45pm departure for some more seasons then. Joined up transport strategy my arse.

 

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1 hour ago, Moor2Sea said:

Anyone know whether this railway would ever have the capacity to cope with football crowds? 

 

I believe this is the problem with AG station. As it stands the re-opened Portishead line would have 1 train per hour in each direction, so there wouldn't be capacity for football crowds. The Ricoh has the exact same problem, it has a station but it is not used on match days.

For AG station to work they'd need to put in sidings and turnbacks so that shuttle trains could be run just between TM and AG and longer platforms than the other re-opened stations on the line

Having said that, it's not rocket science is it and surely if there is enough capacity, then AG station could be a real money spinner with Football and Rugby games every week. It's just whether anyone will stump up for the additional facilities at AG. Of course the powers be will be hoping SL would fund it..... The stupid thing is that the platforms and steps at AG station are still there and surely bringing them up to scratch, would be cheaper than building from scratch but it would mean the existing freight track would need to be slewed away from the current formation.

AG station is a no-brainer but whether there is the will or money to open it is another matter, in any other country it would have been (re)built years ago.

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42 minutes ago, fgrsimon said:

I believe this is the problem with AG station. As it stands the re-opened Portishead line would have 1 train per hour in each direction, so there wouldn't be capacity for football crowds. The Ricoh has the exact same problem, it has a station but it is not used on match days.

For AG station to work they'd need to put in sidings and turnbacks so that shuttle trains could be run just between TM and AG and longer platforms than the other re-opened stations on the line

Having said that, it's not rocket science is it and surely if there is enough capacity, then AG station could be a real money spinner with Football and Rugby games every week. It's just whether anyone will stump up for the additional facilities at AG. Of course the powers be will be hoping SL would fund it..... The stupid thing is that the platforms and steps at AG station are still there and surely bringing them up to scratch, would be cheaper than building from scratch but it would mean the existing freight track would need to be slewed away from the current formation.

AG station is a no-brainer but whether there is the will or money to open it is another matter, in any other country it would have been (re)built years ago.

No brainier or not, the chances of it happening any time soon are close to zero, as far as I can see. An AG station was deliberately left off the original Portishead line reopening plan. And as already stated, due to it being decided that cost of having to upgrade the line to run passenger trains going fast enough to allow for half hourly trains to Portishead is too high, they will only run hourly, which is frankly pathetic. Especially when by contrast London Underground are spending billions of taxpayers money to extend the Northern line 2 miles to the luxury dwellings built on the Battersea power station site. So don't get your hopes that you will be catching a train to a station next to the ground any time soon. 

And as for Liam Fox, as a constituency MP, don't get me started! Clearly the voters of North Somerset are just polling station fodder as far as he seems to be concerned, whilst he tries to stitch up deals with his neo-con pals in the US, that will see us taking their chlorine-washed chickens and other such unpalatable junk, in his post-Brexit dreamland. Talk about taking us down the dumper!!

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7 hours ago, WessexPest said:

Far right my eye.

There was a clear groundswell of opinion in favour of a referendum and it could not have been ignored forever.

No there was not, however once the leavers got their way because DC was trying to hold his party together, it became a battle. Theresa May became PM after campaigning to remain after Boris' mate who ran the leave campaign said the bloke was not fit to become leader of the party or pm

If not called by Hameron then it would’ve happened sooner or later. Particularly given events in the preceding decades:

Events in preceding decades? It may have happened down the line as wages were being driven down further by overseas Labour and government policy,  people needed someone to blame. Poles etc etc etc etc 

I. Joining the EEC in 72 despite strong public opinion against the idea.

Was there not a referendum? Anthony Wedgewood Benn lead the stay out caucus as I remember it, who lost by a substantial margin 

II. Secretly shadowing the ERM 

Secretly shadowing the Exchange Rate Mechanism? 

III. Ousting Thatcher to turn the EEC into the EU and impose the ERM and Maastricht without voter consent

Thatcher was ousted by John Major and the majority of the Tory Party. She had gone a little bit nutty by all accounts and the party were concerned. Maybe Conservative Central Office Could clarify the ministers and players that did for MT

IV. Abandoning the cast-iron referendum promise on the Constitutional Treaty, like Labour, pretending that Lisbon was a fait accompli

SO the Tory party lead us in ( Ted Heath and the Tory cabinet) but the left of the Labour Party, led by AWB tried to keep us out, but it was Labour that pretended a fait accompli that some how puts the emphasis on a Labour Party conspiracy  to keep us all within slow motion socialism that the Conservative party led us in to  

Anyway, I’m way off topic here. Hopefully a rail station at AG gets the green light; the trek from TM or PS is a royal pain.

yep!

 

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16 hours ago, Lord Northski said:

Whist we're on the subject. Pretty strong evidence to say that the Tories, Labour and the Liberals are all crap and nothing ever happens in Bristol when this lot are constantly punching each others faces in, hence why they created the Mayor. Although that's all gone pear since it all went party political again, and nothing has happened at all since "Do Nothing Marv" has been in charge. Pretty safe bet to watch this space for a heap load of nothing to come storming down those tracks with him at the helm. 

An Ashton Gate station and the line to Portishead's are great ideas, especially as most of the railway line is already built. Lets be honest, only Bristol could have an existing train line coming from one of it's biggest and fast expanding dormitory towns, and fail to get its act together to put trains on it.

For the record: Portishead's MP is the Brexwit Liam Fox who's been the sitting MP for 25 years now, Oh and he's in charge of negotiating a Brexit trade deal with Europe now. Meanwhile, members of his constituency sit in ever growing tail backs on the roads going too and fro to Bristol.

Luck with that.

The isn't fit to run passenger trains and the are numerous other issues outside network rails and the councils control holding this up and increasing the cost

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The consultation is only about reopening the line to Portishead.

https://metrowestphase1.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/27543-metrowest-phase-1-campaign-final-web-version.pdf

Reopening of Ashton Gate station is not part of the plans:

Not only  should Ashton Gate and 1/2 hour services be included but how about a new park and ride station at Portbury next to the motorway junction allowing people to park up and be in the centre in 20 minutes.

Far too visionary for this part of the world.

 

 

 

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On 20/11/2017 at 08:02, Lord Northski said:

Any more info available anyone?

It's all in here - Phase 2 of Metrowest (very well publicised, I must say!!):

https://metrowestphase1.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/27543-metrowest-phase-1-campaign-final-web-version.pdf

Dates & Times:

Stage 2 Consultation on re-opening the Portishead branch line as part of MetroWest Phase 1 October to December 2017

Have your say on the MetroWest Phase 1 proposals. We are holding six exhibitions at the following dates and venues:
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Friday 10 November – 
Somerset Hall, The Precinct, Portishead, BS20 6AH 
(12.30pm - 7.30pm)
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Wednesday 15 November – 
Engine Shed, Station Approach, Bristol BS1 6QH 
(12.30pm - 7.30pm)
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Tuesday 21 November – 
Trinity Anglican Primary School (Community Hall), Marjoram Way, 
Portishead, BS20 7JF (13.30pm - 7.30pm)
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Wednesday 22 November – 
Ashton Gate Stadium, Ashton Rd, Bristol BS3 2EJ 
(12.30pm - 7.30pm)
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Thursday 23 November – 
Long Ashton Community Centre, Keedwell Hill, Long Ashton, 
BS41 9DP (3.30pm – 7.30pm)
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Friday 24 November – 
Community Centre, Church Place, Pill, BS20 0AE 
(12.30pm - 7.30pm)
The railway, highway design and associated proposals will be displayed at all exhibitions. Members of the MetroWest 
project team will be on hand to answer any questions.
Following the exhibitions, the plans will go on display from:
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Week commencing Monday 27 November
100 Temple Street, Bristol, BS1 6HT 
9am - 5pm
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7 hours ago, Hillzider said:

 

The consultation is only about reopening the line to Portishead.

https://metrowestphase1.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/27543-metrowest-phase-1-campaign-final-web-version.pdf

Reopening of Ashton Gate station is not part of the plans:

Not only  should Ashton Gate and 1/2 hour services be included but how about a new park and ride station at Portbury next to the motorway junction allowing people to park up and be in the centre in 20 minutes.

Far too visionary for this part of the world.

 

 

 

I think I read somewhere that 60% of the working population of WSM travel to work in Bristol, It's a must to include a park and Ride facility to accommodate some of those. It would also help the stadium for football and rugby, conferences, as well as the Balloon fiesta, any other events and the new Arena.

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