A Horse With No Name Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Not seen it mentioned elsewhere so apologies if it has, but was anyone else screaming at Leko to head for the corner flag with about 1 minute left? He picked the ball up half way and skinned his man down the line before cutting in and crossing to.........nobody. Middlesbro launched a last attack, which Leko to his credit furiously chased back, but if they had scored he would have been totally to blame. I know we aren't a time wasting , cheating side like others, but we need to be a little more savvy when seeing out matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 I was having nightmares of a Zaha type situation, fortunately it came to nothing but the best thing to do would definitely have been head to the corner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Sounds harsh but from what I’ve seen of him he has absolutely zero ‘football brain’ and you can see why he’s not getting near the first team in the Prem - it’s like he’s hardwired to do one thing and one thing only no matter what the situation is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Very frustrating watching him so far. Needs to refine his decision making, obviously has the ability to beat his man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 7 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: Sounds harsh but from what I’ve seen of him he has absolutely zero ‘football brain’ and you can see why he’s not getting near the first team in the Prem - it’s like he’s hardwired to do one thing and one thing only no matter what the situation is. From the very limited amount I have seen of him it would appear that he has a lot to learn. But, he is a young lad and I am sure he is being coached intensely. I am surprised however as to why we took him on loan given my comments above, as I am pretty sure having him here is costing us money in terms of a potential loan fee and a % of wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 LJ clearly brought him on to not alter the shape and to hold the ball up and push their defenders back. It didn't work because as said by an earlier poster, he doesn't seem to have the football brain to do it. I would have brought Vyner on to play wide right. He can defend better and if he got the ball is also able to go forward with it. But then what would we know about tactics etc? We're just supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TinMan's left peg Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 I’ve heard him compared to Bolasie when he was with us, very raw but loads of potential Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bs20ciderarmy Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Probably more out of frustration hasn’t had a lot of minutes and wanted to try and impress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Think people forget how young he is or compare him to what Tammy was at the same age. He isn’t 19 until late April with less than 25 appearances and most of those off the bench. I get he can be frustrating but he has the raw ability to help us in certain matches. He is someone who will help us more as the season goes on and he gets more training and minutes. I think we may even try and purchase him next summer, especially if we go up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoc Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Great run though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 57 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: Sounds harsh but from what I’ve seen of him he has absolutely zero ‘football brain’ and you can see why he’s not getting near the first team in the Prem - it’s like he’s hardwired to do one thing and one thing only no matter what the situation is. Exactly that mate...I've never seen anyone so bad at understanding football. He can run ( with his head down fast ), kick a ball ( as to where it's going to go, no one knows ), do some fancy step overs ( could easily make Blackpool in Strictly come Dancing ) and confuse himself and everyone else as to what he's going to do next...he's no footballer...just an unpredictable person, who can run and kick a ball...seen more football knowledge in a playground tbh. I don't see what any manager see's in him. Hope he proves me wrong and stuffs it down my throat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Useful to have another winger with callum out though. He is young and needs experience to get his decision making right. His end product is poor and he shoyldnt be whipping crosses into empty boxes - needs to whip it across behind the retreating defenders. He will improve with game time. Did anyone notice that run back from him, it was really weird with his head bobbing all over the place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANWRENBCFC4LIFE Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Very nearly turned into Liverpool Arsenal 89! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted December 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 11 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said: Useful to have another winger with callum out though. He is young and needs experience to get his decision making right. His end product is poor and he shoyldnt be whipping crosses into empty boxes - needs to whip it across behind the retreating defenders. He will improve with game time. Did anyone notice that run back from him, it was really weird with his head bobbing all over the place? Yes , he was running like he had shat himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Thought he did brilliant, if they would of broke and scored though I probably wouldn’t be saying that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 hour ago, JoeAman08 said: Think people forget how young he is or compare him to what Tammy was at the same age. He isn’t 19 until late April with less than 25 appearances and most of those off the bench. I get he can be frustrating but he has the raw ability to help us in certain matches. He is someone who will help us more as the season goes on and he gets more training and minutes. I think we may even try and purchase him next summer, especially if we go up. O’Dowda, Reid and Pato have taught me that quality coaching and sustained game time can really impact a player’s game....however that’s only good when they’re you’re player...can’t really see the benefit to spending a season coaching Leko to improve him only to then see him go back to his club. Interesting point re a permanent move - hadn’t considered it. In that case you could see the benefit to having him here despite his rawness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryans Left Peg Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 hour ago, The Horse With No Name said: Not seen it mentioned elsewhere so apologies if it has, but was anyone else screaming at Leko to head for the corner flag with about 1 minute left? He picked the ball up half way and skinned his man down the line before cutting in and crossing to.........nobody. Middlesbro launched a last attack, which Leko to his credit furiously chased back, but if they had scored he would have been totally to blame. I know we aren't a time wasting , cheating side like others, but we need to be a little more savvy when seeing out matches. Agree that he should have ran into the corner, I wouldn't call time wasting 'cheating' though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 hour ago, spudski said: Exactly that mate...I've never seen anyone so bad at understanding football. He can run ( with his head down fast ), kick a ball ( as to where it's going to go, no one knows ), do some fancy step overs ( could easily make Blackpool in Strictly come Dancing ) and confuse himself and everyone else as to what he's going to do next...he's no footballer...just an unpredictable person, who can run and kick a ball...seen more football knowledge in a playground tbh. I don't see what any manager see's in him. Hope he proves me wrong and stuffs it down my throat. A young Freeman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Neither of our loan signings have featured much. I guess unlike Tammy ( who is a near impossible hard act to follow) they don’t have clauses in their contracts insisting that they play? Can’t say I’ve been impressed with either, ok as cover but there must be better value out there, or better investments to be made. We have invested in players like a Brownhill, COD, Paterson etc so we just need to find similar not necessarily getting other teams players better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 2 hours ago, The Horse With No Name said: Not seen it mentioned elsewhere so apologies if it has, but was anyone else screaming at Leko to head for the corner flag with about 1 minute left? He picked the ball up half way and skinned his man down the line before cutting in and crossing to.........nobody. Middlesbro launched a last attack, which Leko to his credit furiously chased back, but if they had scored he would have been totally to blame. I know we aren't a time wasting , cheating side like others, but we need to be a little more savvy when seeing out matches. Taking the ball to the corner flag isn’t time wasting as the ball is still in play. Time wasting is taking ages to take corners, throw-ins, goal kicks and free kicks....if the ball is on the pitch you ain’t wasting time cos the other team obviously has the opportunity to join in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The hand of RO'D Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Did anyone else notice Lekos hilarious run after he lost the ball. I’m not knocking his effort ofc but he literally flung his head back and ran like stink to try and get it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 31 minutes ago, Midred said: A young Freeman? I think Freeman overplays, but if memory serves me right he has the most assists this season in the Championship. With Leko...I'm gobsmacked at how poor his understanding of football is. He wants to beat everyone on his own. It really is like watching the greedy kid at school. Sounds harsh, but I've never been so underwhelmed with one of our players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 And we thought Pulis was doing us a favour- devious b'stard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 21 minutes ago, spudski said: Sounds harsh, but I've never been so underwhelmed with one of our players. Yes you have, spud. Adam Matthews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 minute ago, Jack Dawe said: Yes you have, spud. Adam Matthews. He had a footballing brain mate and could play...he just wasn't bothered and had an attitude. Put Matthews brain and ability and Leko's enthusiasm together....and you'd have a decent player ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUTOR Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Weird as in the Derby game Leko put in what was probably the best individual performance of the season so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThOmO Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 won the penalty, had the ball taken off him by bobby, seemed to take humberance to that, and hasn't been the same since. 53 minutes ago, Bouncearoundtheground said: Weird as in the Derby game Leko put in what was probably the best individual performance of the season so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 This is harsh imo, raw and with little experience yea, but ‘completely lacking a footballing brain’ no. He’s on a decent prem teams books, he’s no fool. And his running/taking on players is so exciting. If he adds end product a la COD, what a prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Of course he's naive - he's only a teenager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 4 hours ago, wendyredredrobin said: Did anyone notice that run back from him, it was really weird with his head bobbing all over the place? I was properly laughing out loud at that run, was superb!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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