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It's been a while since I posted on here. All the negativity around Johnson last season put me off and I just couldn't deal with the abuse etc.

Firstly, I really hope that a new generation of fans are realising what the Johnson family have given this club. It's almost a decade ago that Lee's father delivered the best result for this club in its modern history and here we are again with his son taking us up to the promise land.

I have absolutely no doubt now that we will be playing premiership football next season.

We, the fans, just need to start to believe

Well done Lee - take us up :clap:

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9 minutes ago, no_merde said:

 

I have absolutely no doubt now that we will be playing premiership football next season.

We, the fans, just need to start to believe

Well done Lee - take us up 

City are showing the potential to reach the PL for sure but I'm sure everyone involved at City will tell you that there are another 26 matches to go. Nothing is won in December.

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9 minutes ago, You Do The Dziekanowski said:

Speaking to Boro ST holder he said we played better football than most prem teams last season. 

We’re on our way to Europe lads, I’ll book the Eurostar now 08:14 sound good?

 

Only if the return journey commences immediately on arrival!

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51 minutes ago, You Do The Dziekanowski said:

Speaking to Boro ST holder he said we played better football than most prem teams last season. 

We’re on our way to Europe lads, I’ll book the Eurostar now 08:14 sound good?

 

Why not? Why do we always have this problem of belief in our club??

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24 minutes ago, no_merde said:

Why not? Why do we always have this problem of belief in our club??

I agree in part . Even when we got to the old First Division there was always a feeling of inferiority away from Ashton Gate . 

We were pinching ourselves and anyone else who got in the way , like we couldn't quite believe that we were at Anfield, Highbury or Old Trafford. Awkward , like a priest on a stag night. 

This is an opinion backed up by various player interviews from the eighties.

We had some good results  away but overall our home form kept us up .

Something has changed now , our players don't look overawed by more illustrious clubs and believe that they are as good as anyone in this League or the Prem ! 

We carry the game to every opponent home or away without fear. 

I feel that the club are ahead of some of our supporters, who for so long have had to put up with false dawns and deception.

Understandably being hurt so often leads to a defensive shell being constructed to avoid further pain.

Some of us recognise that the signs are good and are dropping their guard , others rest wary .

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3 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

I agree in part . Even when we got to the old First Division there was always a feeling of inferiority away from Ashton Gate . 

We were pinching ourselves and anyone else who got in the way , like we couldn't quite believe that we were at Anfield, Highbury or Old Trafford. Awkward , like a priest on a stag night. 

This is an opinion backed up by various player interviews from the eighties.

We had some good results  away but overall our home form kept us up .

Something has changed now , our players don't look overawed by more illustrious clubs and believe that they are as good as anyone in this League or the Prem ! 

We carry the game to every opponent home or away without fear. 

I feel that the club are ahead of some of our supporters, who for so long have had to put up with false dawns and deception.

Understandably being hurt so often leads to a defensive shell being constructed to avoid further pain.

Some of us recognise that the signs are good and are dropping their guard , others rest wary .

Us older fans have experienced too many occasions when the club has clutched defeat from the jaws of victory and I think this has  caused many to be cautionary about our chances - allied, of course, with Bristolian's natural pessimism.

I also think we have perhaps become a little to much influenced by the feeling that we are inferior to the bigger clubs, especially ex prem teams with substantially greater resources and bigger "name" players but in a way I think this has been the catalyst for us being where we are now.

Sl realised that the way the club had been was never going to work because, for all his personal wealth, the financial rules meant we could never be able to compete with the bigger clubs in this division and especially those enjoying parachute payments. The complete restructuring of the club and introduction of the much derided ( previously) long term plan was our way of competing. 

By adopting the policy of developing our way of doing things and bringing in coaches and players to fit this style is now paying dividends to a degree that just splashing the cash could never do. As a result, there is now a togetherness and strength of unity, not just among the players but you feel also throughout the club that I sonnet think could have been achieved by just buying the "best" players - see LT for proof. As others have commented we have a team that likes GJ's team of a decade ago is greater than the sum of it's parts. The differed this time is that we have a group of much more talented players than LJ's father had under his management and I also think that the experience and lessons learned during last season have made a huge difference to the way things have gone this time around for players and coaching staff.

The other major difference from a decade ago is that GJ's team achieved the best they could. This team is still young and with a long way to go before they reach their potential, which is not only heartening but also frightening for those of us that have "enjoyed" so many false dawns in the past.

 

 

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No merde. While I understand where you are coming from, don't get too excited too early. BCFC, the Bristol version have threatened too many times to achieve before dumping loads of merde on us from a great height.

You clearly have a high regard for GJ but you should realise that all our managers have gad goo and bad spells.

The great AD worked a miracle getting us to the First yet was one of the major factors in the 1982 bankruptcy with ten and eleven year contracts.

Likewise, GJ won promotion from the third tier and almost to the First. Bur then he spoiled it with some unbelievably bad signings found by his taxi driver chief scout. GJ is seen by some as the architect of the fallow years that followed, only ending after all the dross had been cleared out by successive managers, which allowed SC to gain another "one year in ten" success.

Now we appear to be building a successful squad that could, and I repeat, could take us back to the top tier. Although its lucky that I'm not a betting man because if the past is anything to go by, we're more likely to go down before we go up.

Am I being pessimistic? No just realistic. I hope you're right and I'm wrong.

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2 hours ago, You Do The Dziekanowski said:

Speaking to Boro ST holder he said we played better football than most prem teams last season. 

We’re on our way to Europe lads, I’ll book the Eurostar now 08:14 sound good?

 

Is it cheaper to do split ticketing for the Lille-Paris-Nice-Milan sections?

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I think we will be where we deserve to be. Just enjoy the wins, performances and postivity for now but not get carried away. There are 20 odd other teams out there who want the points too, no game is an easy game and anything can happen good or bad.

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3 hours ago, no_merde said:

It's been a while since I posted on here. All the negativity around Johnson last season put me off and I just couldn't deal with the abuse etc.

Firstly, I really hope that a new generation of fans are realising what the Johnson family have given this club. It's almost a decade ago that Lee's father delivered the best result for this club in its modern history and here we are again with his son taking us up to the promise land.

I have absolutely no doubt now that we will be playing premiership football next season.

We, the fans, just need to start to believe

Well done Lee - take us up :clap:

I agree that we're getting to the point where we can start to believe that promotion could happen this season. But you also need to remember that far more teams have been in our position and failed than have ever gone up- including us in 2008. There is a long way to go, so a bit of positivity: yes. Believing we've already achieved something? Let keep a lid on it for a couple of months yet

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I want to believe.

The reality is this. 

There are some incredibly good sides in this league, some whose form is gathering momentum now too (i.e. Villa / Derby). There's a long way to go, and we're good. Very good. But so are 5 / 6 others as well. 

I believe we will get top 6, I feel top 2 is just a bit too far right now. Hope I'm wrong mind!

Save the Eurostar tickets just yet; first purchase will be a raffle ticket in early May and fingers crossed we get the Champagne and not the chocolate fingers.

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While most of us would love to think we'll be up there, I think we know City (like England in many ways) are specialists in getting your hopes up then dashing them.

Plus football fans are a superstitious bunch - I'm now going to blame you for jinxing it if we don't go up! :P:yes:

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If I could choose, I would not go up this season - I would like to go up next season, after two rollicking good years in the Championship. As others have said before on here, it's the journey, rather than the destination that might well prove to be more enjoyable and satisfying than being cannon-fodder for the objectionable overseas oligarch clubs. But - shame on me - there's my lack of belief laid plain before all OTIB - that should we ever return to the top, we would struggle badly and not last very long. Old habits die hard.......

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30 minutes ago, Jack Dawe said:

If I could choose, I would not go up this season - I would like to go up next season, after two rollicking good years in the Championship. As others have said before on here, it's the journey, rather than the destination that might well prove to be more enjoyable and satisfying than being cannon-fodder for the objectionable overseas oligarch clubs. But - shame on me - there's my lack of belief laid plain before all OTIB - that should we ever return to the top, we would struggle badly and not last very long. Old habits die hard.......

Doesn't work that way as I am certain you know. We could get really close this season and say, lose in the PO final, then next year same squad, coaches etc, get nowhere near it!

I honestly don't get the argument about the journey being better than the destination, yes we could get promotion and get relegated the following season but we would be £100m better off and this would allow us to build and go again.

Eventually we will become an established EPL club hopefully, and that is what we should be working towards. In professional sport you need to get to the highest level you possibly can .

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I doubt we will finish top 2 - so to be confident we are going up you have to have a lot of faith that we will make the playoffs and then win them, which as we have seen in the past can be a damned lottery at best.

There are still a lot of good teams close to us, so still far to early to be to confident. Anyway I guess this thread will maybe give something for people to drag up and throw into the ops face if it fails to pass.

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1 hour ago, ScottishRed said:

Doesn't work that way as I am certain you know. We could get really close this season and say, lose in the PO final, then next year same squad, coaches etc, get nowhere near it!

I honestly don't get the argument about the journey being better than the destination, yes we could get promotion and get relegated the following season but we would be £100m better off and this would allow us to build and go again.

Eventually we will become an established EPL club hopefully, and that is what we should be working towards. In professional sport you need to get to the highest level you possibly can .

What he said.

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2 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said:

The 3 other teams in the playoffs willbe saying exactly the same.

Yep, no doubt. It really is a lottery.  For me, it's the way we played when we beat Derby 4-1 that gives me confidence, but if we finish in the top 6, calling a favourite would be a tough task. The ever growing coaching ability and management savvy of Lee Johnson could well be the difference.

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