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Big C

Alleged Staff Treatment by BCFC

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I'm not saying it isn't true but I saw this as well on the CTID Facebook page, which is made up of 30% idiots and 70% pathological liars so I'm not sure on the truth in this. If it is true then of course, a ridiculous decision by the club on every level.

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1 minute ago, Big C said:

Apparently match day draw sellers and programme sellers have been told they won’t be getting tickets for the Man Utd game. (I’m unsure if other staff are in a similar position) One of the perks of the job was that they normally get free entry (offset by the fact they won’t see the entire game). They have no purchase history so couldn’t get any sort of priority but even so they weren’t told until this week they weren’t getting a ticket. These people have stood out in all weathers making money for the club (some for many years). They’ve endured those games against Crewe and Shrewsbury but are not valued enough to gain entry to this game. I guess if you see them working at the game you can expect to see them frogmarched from the ground once they’ve finished working. I know people have sought sympathy for car parking fines and admin fees this week and has not received it so I will brace myself for a backlash if my sympathy for these guys is misplaced 

Before this turns into a club-bashing session I think you need to clarify “apparently”. It would be a shame to have an entire thread based on misinformation.

So, where did you hear this?

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2 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said:

Before this turns into a club-bashing session I think you need to clarify “apparently”. It would be a shame to have an entire thread based on misinformation.

So, where did you hear this?

Blimey you were quick with this I was just editing it. Yes It’s been posted on the fountain of truth that is Facebook. 

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Just now, Big C said:

Blimey you were quick with this I was just editing it. Yes It’s been posted on the fountain of truth that is Facebook. 

You edited it to a solitary full stop? How bizarre.

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2 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said:

You edited it to a solitary full stop? How bizarre.

Well when I saw you had quoted me i didn’t see much point in editing it :thumbsup:

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If they are not giving ticket sellers free ticket/ opportunities to buy then that is poor.

But equally (and please excuse my ignorance), are ticket sellers all voulenteers with no benefits on a league game basis?

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I will sound very harsh and inconsiderate but everyone wanted to draw a big team and this is what comes with that. I am sure the club take care of loyal supporters every chance they get but this match is just too high profile and high demand to accomodate everyone. The club have the right and dare I say the responsibilty to get as much out of this game as possible. Maybe this does not apply to this situation but the club have been getting a lot of stick in regards to different situations and I am sure they are doing their best to make as many happy as possible but have to draw the lines somewhere. Attention is only brought to it because lines never needed to be drawn before. 

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My friend is a programme seller and was told if he wants a ticket he has to buy one. He has sold for more than 25 years,They used to be given a season ticket but now it is a pass and they have to find a seat after kick off.

 

Personally I think the clubs decision is unfair

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1 minute ago, ChippenhamRed said:

So am I right in saying that under normal circumstances ticket sellers get paid AND get to watch the game for free (effectively a £30 perk for 2 hours work)?

Taxman will be showing some interest!:yawn:

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1 minute ago, Busterrimes said:

My friend is a programme seller and was told if he wants a ticket he has to buy one. He has sold for more than 25 years,They used to be given a season ticket but now it is a pass and they have to find a seat after kick off.

 

Personally I think the clubs decision is unfair

So they are expected to buy a ticket and still work and miss the start of the game then? That does seem unfair 

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4 minutes ago, Busterrimes said:

My friend is a programme seller and was told if he wants a ticket he has to buy one. He has sold for more than 25 years,They used to be given a season ticket but now it is a pass and they have to find a seat after kick off.

 

Personally I think the clubs decision is unfair

Sounds as though it is simply an automatic consequence of this match being a sell out, i.e. the pass to find a seat won’t work if no seats.

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Surely people who sell half time draw tickets and programmes are no more certainly city fans than contract staff who work in the bars..? 

What city fan would take a job at the club, that means they don’t get to see all the match? There won’t be any empty seats for this game, so I don’t really get the big deal. 

I counldn’t get tickets for Strictly, for Mum, just because I work at the BBC. 

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Just now, Big C said:

So they are expected to buy a ticket and still work and miss the start of the game then? That does seem unfair 

My mate tends to miss the first 10 minutes of both halves as they are asked to sell at half time if there are any left.

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2 minutes ago, Busterrimes said:

Yep programme sellers are paid. Not a fun task most weeks though because of the weather

So assuming they work for, what, 3 hours..? Presumably at minimum wage @£7.50 per hour PLUS get a £30 match ticket. 

Blimey, that’s not a bad little gig! 

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3 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said:

So assuming they work for, what, 3 hours..? Presumably at minimum wage @£7.50 per hour PLUS get a £30 match ticket. 

Blimey, that’s not a bad little gig! 

But would you buy a ticket for a game when you can’t watch it all? This isn’t another dig at early leavers btw;)

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Have to say, my sympathy is limited if they are getting paid. Standing in the rain is part of the job. Getting to see the game that the rest of us are paying a lot to watch is a pretty massive perk for a couple of hours work.

If I was their boss I’d maintain the status quo and give them a free ticket, but I don’t think you can really complain if the freebie you don’t have a right to gets taken away. At the end of the day, the club are guaranteeing them a ticket if they want it (a privilege the rest of us have paid for) and they’ll still get paid for their work.

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1 hour ago, Tammys Scan said:

I'm not saying it isn't true but I saw this as well on the CTID Facebook page, which is made up of 30% idiots and 70% pathological liars so I'm not sure on the truth in this. If it is true then of course, a ridiculous decision by the club on every level.

Hey I go on there and I'm not a pathological liar:P

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6 minutes ago, Big C said:

But would you buy a ticket for a game when you can’t watch it all? This isn’t another dig at early leavers btw;)

I buy a season ticket and can’t go to every game. 

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16 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said:

Surely people who sell half time draw tickets and programmes are no more certainly city fans than contract staff who work in the bars..? 

What city fan would take a job at the club, that means they don’t get to see all the match? There won’t be any empty seats for this game, so I don’t really get the big deal. 

I counldn’t get tickets for Strictly, for Mum, just because I work at the BBC. 

It’s a given that they always get given match tickets, for selling half time draw tickets prior to games. This practice has gone on for years.

so your theory of working at the BBC and strictly, is quite frankly, completely pointless.  

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1 minute ago, bengalcub said:

Typical bcfc off pitch antics utter disregard for fans , club really is a joke of the pitch if this is true !! 

They are employees, not fans. (Of course they may be fans as well, but the very nature of this role means that they don’t actually even buy tickets) 

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2 minutes ago, bengalcub said:

Typical bcfc off pitch antics utter disregard for fans , club really is a joke of the pitch if this is true !! 

Or they could of bought a ticket like everyone else.

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1 minute ago, AshtonPark said:

It’s a given that they always get given match tickets, for selling half time draw tickets prior to games. This practice has gone on for years.

so your theory of working at the BBC and strictly, is quite frankly, completely pointless.  

I don’t get tickets for Pointless either..!

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2 minutes ago, AshtonPark said:

It’s a given that they always get given match tickets, for selling half time draw tickets prior to games. This practice has gone on for years.

so your theory of working at the BBC and strictly, is quite frankly, completely pointless.  

I read somewhere that the rules regarding comp tickets for league and cup matches are very different. I think this could be the reasoning as much as the huge demand in this case. The club simply isn’t allowed to give the amount of tickets out they normally do. 

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3 minutes ago, BoneyardTIM said:

Or they could of bought a ticket like everyone else.

Why would they when for years they have always got access to the game? As part of selling match day draw tickets?

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1 minute ago, RedM said:

I read somewhere that the rules regarding comp tickets for league and cup matches are very different. I think this could be the reasoning as much as the huge demand in this case. The club simply isn’t allowed to give the amount of tickets out they normally do. 

A very valid point. You are correct. 

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1 minute ago, AshtonPark said:

Why would they when for years they have always got access to the game? As part of selling match day draw tickets?

Because they must have been aware that it was going to be a sell out..? 

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2 minutes ago, AshtonPark said:

Why would they when for years they have always got access to the game? As part of selling match day draw tickets?

Because it was fairly obvious, this game would be a sell out. Could always stick the sellers in corporate. That's never full. ;)

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15 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said:

Have to say, my sympathy is limited if they are getting paid. Standing in the rain is part of the job. Getting to see the game that the rest of us are paying a lot to watch is a pretty massive perk for a couple of hours work.

If I was their boss I’d maintain the status quo and give them a free ticket, but I don’t think you can really complain if the freebie you don’t have a right to gets taken away. At the end of the day, the club are guaranteeing them a ticket if they want it (a privilege the rest of us have paid for) and they’ll still get paid for their work.

And to some extent you are right they are paid to stand in the rain. However are these people actually doing the job for the money? I can only guess that they are willing to do a couple of hours in the rain at minimum wage is for the nice perk of getting free albeit late entry to the game. Now if the club has changed the goal posts on them surely they should have told them weeks ago

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1 minute ago, AshtonPark said:

 

What’s the difference between lansdown junior giving his mates tickets (which has happened) and to ticket sellers?

 

Ticket sellers are paid to be there..?!

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2 minutes ago, AshtonPark said:

 

What’s the difference between lansdown junior giving his mates tickets (which has happened) and to ticket sellers?

 

You are joking right?

 

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2 minutes ago, Big C said:

And to some extent you are right they are paid to stand in the rain. However are these people actually doing the job for the money? I can only guess that they are willing to do a couple of hours in the rain at minimum wage is for the nice perk of getting free albeit late entry to the game. Now if the club has changed the goal posts on them surely they should have told them weeks ago

That to me is the real issue, unless this has happened before, but wasn't such an issue due to the opposition? 

Would it be in their contractural terms and conditions of employment? 

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3 minutes ago, AshtonPark said:

 

What’s the difference between lansdown junior giving his mates tickets (which has happened) and to ticket sellers?

 

Can you believe that David Attenborough has never invited me round his house for one of his dinner parties..?!

Apparently it’s all about his “mates” 

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1 minute ago, phantom said:

That to me is the real issue, unless this has happened before, but wasn't such an issue due to the opposition? 

Would it be in their contractural terms and conditions of employment? 

I’m sure they wouldn’t want that, for tax reasons.!

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3 minutes ago, AshtonPark said:

 

What’s the difference between lansdown junior giving his mates tickets (which has happened) and to ticket sellers?

 

Because he has two boxes which one he has paid for and invites his friends/ family's/ Buisness clients there.

Small fact that his family has also contributed millions of £'s and secured the future of the club for years to come. Also making it a far more pleasant experience to watch games in a modified Ashton gate.

Ticket sellers are paid to sell tickets... To compare them to Jon landsown is utterly clueless.

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I was a programme seller for a few months back in the late 90’s, it’s not an easy task, surrounded by people thrusting money at you and trying to watch out for chancers trying to nick programmes out of the box while you’re distracted. I had to sell 100 programmes before I got commission of 5p for everyone I sold. Now getting to see the game for free was the reason I did it, because the renumeration was minimal. 

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7 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said:

Have I missed something? Why would a ticket seller get a free ticket? Surely they’re paid employees? 

 They get free entry because they were told they would get free entry when they applied and have been getting free entry for years. Now people have debated whether that is acceptable or not,  but I guess the real issue here if the goal posts have been changed surely they should have been made aware of that before this week

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Let's be fair here.

A ticket seller possibly makes a few quid 22 times a season hawking out publications that no one really wants, but they serve a purpose.

In exchange they get what probably equates to next to no money but free entry to games like Shrewsbury at home on a Tuesday night, and indeed Saturday games where seats are available.

It's hardly fair that (even with wages) they are denied the chance to watch 75 minutes of a cup tie that they grafted for when we played Plymouth and largely accepted we would lose, because, (after all), LJ was well out of his depth.

I would side favourably of gifting them tickets for this upcoming game.

I hope the club are able to accommodate them.

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