pride of the west Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 As the title suggests, Scotland Yard says he's a free man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 Well he certainly got dragged through the mud. He sounded adamant he was innocent on the radio a few weeks back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 Somehow doubt we have heard the last of this story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 I wonder if he will win his case when he is sued in civil court?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveF Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 Are you going to apologise to Michael? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 15 minutes ago, Gazred said: Well he certainly got dragged through the mud. He sounded adamant he was innocent on the radio a few weeks back. Exactly my thoughts. You can not rely on the reliable press anymore. Fake news all around. In my world McIndoe has always been a coming manager. I trust this will come through Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 Think lee Johnson might 47,000 reasons to disagree that mCindoe is innocent !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 26 minutes ago, DaveF said: Are you going to apologise to Michael? He still went bankrupt owing millions to other footballers. Hardly a Saint is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 43 minutes ago, bristolcitysweden said: Exactly my thoughts. You can not rely on the reliable press anymore. Fake news all around. In my world McIndoe has always been a coming manager. I trust this will come through Those who purchase certain newspapers and crave cheap headlines can blame themselves. They are fuelling the fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 in the words of keith lard......theres no smoke without fire....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 54 minutes ago, DaveF said: Are you going to apologise to Michael? Let me tell you about Bristol City family, you don’t have to..in a way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 Who lost money ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmerred Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 Wouldn't say too much, but cleared of wrong doing is not really as it is. The CPS decided there wasn't enough evidence to obtain a conviction so dropped the case. Lack of complaints, people willing to give evidence at a trial, no real clarity on figures involved, no contracts to prove dishonesty or that they had been duped or conned. It still stands MM owes a lot of people a lot of money and a number of high profile sportsmen, how this money was obtained was on the proviso to make money, with outlandish expectations and promises, this money was not loans and so on. However a lack of evidence and complaints and proof, means the CPS can't proceed with any case. That doesn't mean there has been no wrong doing, it just means there isn't enough evidence, or victims who will give evidence in court, and proof they were conned to seek a conviction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheshire_red Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 People don’t like admitting they were duped and certainly not for high sums of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 High profile ...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 13 minutes ago, palmerred said: Wouldn't say too much, but cleared of wrong doing is not really as it is. The CPS decided there wasn't enough evidence to obtain a conviction so dropped the case. Lack of complaints, people willing to give evidence at a trial, no real clarity on figures involved, no contracts to prove dishonesty or that they had been duped or conned. It still stands MM owes a lot of people a lot of money and a number of high profile sportsmen, how this money was obtained was on the proviso to make money, with outlandish expectations and promises, this money was not loans and so on. However a lack of evidence and complaints and proof, means the CPS can't proceed with any case. That doesn't mean there has been no wrong doing, it just means there isn't enough evidence, or victims who will give evidence in court, and proof they were conned to seek a conviction. So he's innocent. Next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 55 minutes ago, shelts said: Who lost money ? See his bankruptcy petition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 54 minutes ago, shelts said: Who lost money ? Robbie Keane & Jimmy Bullard were both mentioned by memory amongst many others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 15 minutes ago, BigTone said: Robbie Keane & Jimmy Bullard were both mentioned by memory amongst many others So none of our Bristol City Family past or present ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 2 hours ago, DaveF said: Are you going to apologise to Michael? Mate the police did not have enough evidence to prove fraud, but always said this was a civil matter, save the apologies for after the civil case, because there will almost certainly be one and the level of proof is nothing like the police need to prove fraud. A lot of people apologised to OJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 4 minutes ago, shelts said: So none of our Bristol City Family past or present ? Not sure TBH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calculus Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 From what I've seen the sort of returns on investment talked about were astronomical. Anybody with half a brain would know that potential high gains come with high risks. Caveat emptor and all that..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 5 minutes ago, shelts said: So none of our Bristol City Family past or present ? Actually thinking about it wasn't LJ named? Could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, BigTone said: Not sure TBH Be interesting to know if he allegedly fleeced ex City team mates or staff at the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, Calculus said: From what I've seen the sort of returns on investment talked about were astronomical. Anybody with half a brain would know that potential high gains come with high risks. Caveat emptor and all that..... If it's a deal too good to be true then generally it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmerred Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 Lee Johnson lost 47K. Another ex player lost 5K but he wrote it off. He's not been named officially, so not my place to name him. Sadly there can't really be a civil case as he went bankrupt, and everyone who was owed money was given a window of opportunity to pass on their losses to the official receiver. Obviously this meant they would be published as a creditor and most of the people didn't bother as they would never get their money back. His bankruptcy was a fraction of what was owed. With him being bankrupt there is no real need to seek civil action. I would be amazed if he ever manages or coaches in England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmerred Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 5 minutes ago, Calculus said: From what I've seen the sort of returns on investment talked about were astronomical. Anybody with half a brain would know that potential high gains come with high risks. Caveat emptor and all that..... Depends on how you are sold it, and the people vouching for it, and "documents" given which shows it was happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmerred Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 1 hour ago, CotswoldRed said: So he's innocent. Next. No not at all. That's like saying; I rented a gun and shot you, I disposed of the gun, and managed to sort out alibis which distant me from the murder scene. The police despite knowing I murdered you, can't prove it, and witnesses refuse to give evidence which proves I done it, and therefore the CPS don't have enough to charge me for the offence. In your mindset, I'm an innocent man ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 1 hour ago, palmerred said: No not at all. That's like saying; I rented a gun and shot you, I disposed of the gun, and managed to sort out alibis which distant me from the murder scene. The police despite knowing I murdered you, can't prove it, and witnesses refuse to give evidence which proves I done it, and therefore the CPS don't have enough to charge me for the offence. In your mindset, I'm an innocent man ! Blimey, the blokes innocent, get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 6 minutes ago, 1bristolcity said: Blimey, the blokes innocent, get over it. No. The CPS have decided that, for whatever reason, they do not consider they stand a 'better than average' chance of a successful prosecution. He is innocent in as much as he has not been tried (in a Criminal Court) and found guilty, but I suspect he may be somewhat wary of getting too close to some of his former acquaintances. There may yet be Civil Proceedings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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