bengalcub Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 With the injured piling up is there an option to recall any of , morell , dowling , Moore , golbourne , Moore ,mckosky ? Feel we need two or three of them to fill the squad out a little Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 We can`t until 1st January unfortunately due to the new loan rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, bengalcub said: With the injured piling up is there an option to recall any of , morell , dowling , Moore , golbourne , Moore ,mckosky ? Feel we need two or three of them to fill the squad out a little I'm not sure if you are able to recall loans early these days. Also, more players back might have a detrimental impact on the abailabity of parking spaces in the area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalcub Posted December 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 well done Bristol rob think of that all on your own ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, bengalcub said: well done Bristol rob think of that all on your own ? I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalcub Posted December 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 anyway ... are we only able to call up from the u23’s then ? We need at least a striker one cm and poss a defender , Garita , plavotic , bakinson ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, bengalcub said: anyway ... are we only able to call up from the u23’s then ? We need at least a striker one cm and poss a defender , Garita , plavotic , bakinson ? It looks that way. The ridiculous new loan rules help no-one, least of all the young players who would get a chance to step up in the circumstances we find ourselves in if we could recall them. A totally ill thought out set of regulations dreamt up by people who have no understanding of the way football works below the level of the `big boys`. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCRED Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 Think LJ is stuck with what he’s got until January For the next 3 - 4 games it may mean Kelly & Bakinson getting on the bench but there is still enough in the squad to get by but can’t afford too many more casualties. Hopefullt MA & Coaching team are looking to get quality in for the first week of January as the only thing that will de - rail our form will be our injury list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 1 minute ago, INCRED said: Think LJ is stuck with what he’s got until January For the next 3 - 4 games it may mean Kelly & Bakinson getting on the bench but there is still enough in the squad to get by but can’t afford too many more casualties. Hopefullt MA & Coaching team are looking to get quality in for the first week of January as the only thing that will de - rail our form will be our injury list If experience over the last three windows tell us anything it`s that we won`t be letting this sneak up on us and will have players lined up ready to go almost from day one of this one. Not for the Villa game but with the cup game at Watford the following Saturday to that, certainly by the time we play Norwich at home on the 13th. The only thing we may have to bite the bullet on is that everyone knows we have money and an injury crisis and will price accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman85 Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 That Watford game is a blessing. Gives us nearly two weeks without a league game to get players back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman85 Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 1 minute ago, JonDolman said: Talking of loans. McCoulsky scored for Newport I'd have him back ahead of Woodrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 9 minutes ago, tinman85 said: That Watford game is a blessing. Gives us nearly two weeks without a league game to get players back. It absolutely is, we`ll need that breathing space by then. I have just noticed though that the league cup semi first leg is the midweek between Watford and Norwich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 Question - why has LJ allowed these players to go on loan? Answers - 1) He feels they need experience of men's football. 2) they're not rated by LJ and therefore not in his plans. So why would he recall any of them if he could if he feels either of the above? Despite the current injury curse LJ must feel that he enough quality within the squad to cover the crocked positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_unreliant Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 Wonder how Freddie Hinds has been doing? Haven't heard much about him but he looked useful in the cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 2 hours ago, robin_unreliant said: Wonder how Freddie Hinds has been doing? Haven't heard much about him but he looked useful in the cup. He’s hardly got onto the pitch at Cheltenham. On the bench for most matches (was an unused sub today). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 1 minute ago, pongo88 said: He’s hardly got onto the pitch at Cheltenham. On the bench for most matches (was an unused sub today). I`m beginning to wonder what we`re achieving by sending him there. A loan down at Plymouth or somewhere would do the lad much more good I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 20 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said: I`m beginning to wonder what we`re achieving by sending him there. A loan down at Plymouth or somewhere would do the lad much more good I think. If he’s not playing at Cheltenham then not sure Plymouth would play him either in the League above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 2 hours ago, tinman85 said: I'd have him back ahead of Woodrow This kind of comment needs to stop. Woodrow has scored a few goals in the championship. He has played for England’s U21s. He has rarely had a start to show what he can do and on one of the few occasions he has played a big portion of the match he played well and scored against Derby. To suggest that McCoulskey or Hinds who barely get off the bench for League 2 teams is laughable. Not only is Woodrow better cover at this stage of his career, it allows the other 2 to have a better chance at minutes in a league closer to their current level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gifford Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 27 minutes ago, Big C said: If he’s not playing at Cheltenham then not sure Plymouth would play him either in the League above If he's willing to go in goal he'll get some games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 4 hours ago, bengalcub said: With the injured piling up is there an option to recall any of , morell , dowling , Moore , golbourne , Moore ,mckosky ? Feel we need two or three of them to fill the squad out a little 2 Moore's ? Who's the 2nd one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 3 hours ago, Robbored said: Question - why has LJ allowed these players to go on loan? Answers - 1) He feels they need experience of men's football. 2) they're not rated by LJ and therefore not in his plans. So why would he recall any of them if he could if he feels either of the above? Despite the current injury curse LJ must feel that he enough quality within the squad to cover the crocked positions. Why did he sign some of them then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman85 Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 28 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said: This kind of comment needs to stop. Woodrow has scored a few goals in the championship. He has played for England’s U21s. He has rarely had a start to show what he can do and on one of the few occasions he has played a big portion of the match he played well and scored against Derby. To suggest that McCoulskey or Hinds who barely get off the bench for League 2 teams is laughable. Not only is Woodrow better cover at this stage of his career, it allows the other 2 to have a better chance at minutes in a league closer to their current level. It needs to stop? He isn't good enough. Offers nothing. Fulham fans laughing at us taking him on loan. League two striker at best. Appreciate your opinion but the one signing of the summer who has been a flop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 1 minute ago, BigTone said: Why did he sign some of them then? To develop them. His signings were all youngsters - Taylor Moore for example. Its a very simple strategy from SL - sign them relatively cheaply, develop them into men's football then if they're not quite upto Championship standard then move them on at a profit. If they do have the required Championship quality then they become another first team possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 17 minutes ago, Robbored said: To develop them. His signings were all youngsters - Taylor Moore for example. Its a very simple strategy from SL - sign them relatively cheaply, develop them into men's football then if they're not quite upto Championship standard then move them on at a profit. If they do have the required Championship quality then they become another first team possibility. But then you also state that maybe LJ doesn't rate them. How much profit will we make given the outgoings over time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 3 hours ago, Robbored said: Question - why has LJ allowed these players to go on loan? Answers - 1) He feels they need experience of men's football. 2) they're not rated by LJ and therefore not in his plans. So why would he recall any of them if he could if he feels either of the above? Despite the current injury curse LJ must feel that he enough quality within the squad to cover the crocked positions. Do you actually know how many fit senior players we have fit now? Come back & post this nonsense when we have had to play another 5 league games with our current numbers. By QPR our subs bench will have a minimum of two players on it with no league experience at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCRED Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 4 hours ago, Red Right Hand said: If experience over the last three windows tell us anything it`s that we won`t be letting this sneak up on us and will have players lined up ready to go almost from day one of this one. Not for the Villa game but with the cup game at Watford the following Saturday to that, certainly by the time we play Norwich at home on the 13th. The only thing we may have to bite the bullet on is that everyone knows we have money and an injury crisis and will price accordingly. Agree totally, we are in a great position at the moment and SL needs to learn from 2008 and I am sure that there are players lined up based on the little hints from Holden & McCallister. Loans could be interesting as a stop gap and with an option to buy in the summer and buy some time for those coming back from injury. If there is a top quality player available such as Lod at Panathanaikos as rumoured then we may see one or two permanent deals. One thing LJ won’t want is any big time Charlie’s to damage the team spirit which is apparent and has got us through the tough games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 53 minutes ago, tinman85 said: It needs to stop? He isn't good enough. Offers nothing. Fulham fans laughing at us taking him on loan. League two striker at best. Appreciate your opinion but the one signing of the summer who has been a flop. Flop? The same “flop” as Diedhiou based on the same minutes played? Woodrow 398m / 2g / 1a Diedhiou 1088m / 6g / 1a Extrapolate out Woodrow! plus he’s not even had a run to get used to our players. Cut the guy some slack. England u21 international. Decent at Burton last season in a struggling side. Why are “fans” so quick to write off a player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 33 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Do you actually know how many fit senior players we have fit now? Come back & post this nonsense when we have had to play another 5 league games with our current numbers. By QPR our subs bench will have a minimum of two players on it with no league experience at all. Graham, is it unintentional or do you deliberately misinterpret my posts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 Call me cynical, but let them stay out on loan. Not one of those players improve our match day squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, Robbored said: Graham, is it unintentional or do you deliberately misinterpret my posts? Look at your last sentence in your previous post, do you seriously not understand how circumstances can change? There is no way our current squad has enough quality (as you claim) and I fully expect that LJ knows that. That is largely because our recent run of injuries has left the number he has chosen to work with until January as far too small. I just find your incredibly simplistic views on things pretty baffling, to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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