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4 hours ago, Up The City! said:

@JulieH I'm assuming you will now be actively seeking a prosecution and banning order?

Dealt with him.

he yet again did it for a bet. Very surprised to be interviewed and reported for the offence.

didnt realise he could get a criminal conviction and football banning order if the decision is to prosecute. 

Referee will also mention it in his report to the league as well, who will ask for report from bcfc, hopefully no further fine.

I genuinely do not understand why fans feel the need to win a bet and run on the pitch?? Second person I have dealt with this season who has done it. First one went to court and got a conviction ( no ban issued) .

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, AshtonPark said:

Genuine question @JulieH 

What makes some people have bans for running on the pitch and not others? I guess other offences in general really. 

Is it down to things like if your known to police, have history etc?

Yes exactly that, normally will get a ban for coming on the pitch if they have some form of public order/ football related offence history OR if the invasion led to an assault/ disorder towards other fans or players/ officials. 

It is absolutely down to the magistrates on the day of the hearing, and their belief that the defendant could contribute to violence or disorder again at any future games, it is in this belief that football banning orders are given. 

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32 minutes ago, JulieH said:

I genuinely do not understand why fans feel the need to win a bet and run on the pitch?? Second person I have dealt with this season who has done it. First one went to court and got a conviction ( no ban issued) .

Stupid is as stupid does.

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2 hours ago, JulieH said:

Dealt with him.

he yet again did it for a bet. Very surprised to be interviewed and reported for the offence.

didnt realise he could get a criminal conviction and football banning order if the decision is to prosecute. 

Referee will also mention it in his report to the league as well, who will ask for report from bcfc, hopefully no further fine.

I genuinely do not understand why fans feel the need to win a bet and run on the pitch?? Second person I have dealt with this season who has done it. First one went to court and got a conviction ( no ban issued) .

 

 

 

I hope you kept hold of him long enough to miss the coach journey home.

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11 hours ago, JulieH said:

Yes exactly that, normally will get a ban for coming on the pitch if they have some form of public order/ football related offence history OR if the invasion led to an assault/ disorder towards other fans or players/ officials. 

It is absolutely down to the magistrates on the day of the hearing, and their belief that the defendant could contribute to violence or disorder again at any future games, it is in this belief that football banning orders are given. 

Hi Julie. 

I’m interested in your comment above regarding having prior criminal offences or leading to assault. 

Please can you let me know how you would perceive the following circumstance :

Away at Sheff Utd. Young lad, with absolutely zero previous criminal offences (in fact a thoroughly good kid who’s never been in trouble anywhere before, whether football or going through school or anything), happens to find himself on the pitch with the players when we scored our last minute winner. His actions were of pure joy, ecstasy and spontaneous happiness and were not of criminal intent nor was anyone harmed in any way. 

Would this type of incident lead to a ban? I’d hope that the police would be sympathetic enough to understand that an outpouring of sheer emotion is very different to an act of criminality and that perhaps they would have influence to not press charges and prevent such a trivial matter going to the magistrates. 

Are you able to comment on what the repercussions are for those who celebrated with our players at Sheff Utd? 

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3 hours ago, Harry said:

Hi Julie. 

I’m interested in your comment above regarding having prior criminal offences or leading to assault. 

Please can you let me know how you would perceive the following circumstance :

Away at Sheff Utd. Young lad, with absolutely zero previous criminal offences (in fact a thoroughly good kid who’s never been in trouble anywhere before, whether football or going through school or anything), happens to find himself on the pitch with the players when we scored our last minute winner. His actions were of pure joy, ecstasy and spontaneous happiness and were not of criminal intent nor was anyone harmed in any way. 

Would this type of incident lead to a ban? I’d hope that the police would be sympathetic enough to understand that an outpouring of sheer emotion is very different to an act of criminality and that perhaps they would have influence to not press charges and prevent such a trivial matter going to the magistrates. 

Are you able to comment on what the repercussions are for those who celebrated with our players at Sheff Utd? 

We the police only have the power to arrest. We then present the evidence to court and the decision to ban is made by the magistrate sitting that day.

 there is no consistency with the magistrates around the uk , so some will give football banning orders for this type of offence and some won’t.

bristol magistrates recently didn’t give one for the Male that came on against derby who also joined in player celebrations  however I know in other parts of the country magistrates have given them, so unfortunately there is no clear cut answer I am afraid . 

My advice as always to persons charged with any offence is to speak to a solicitor before any court date, everyone is entitled to free legal advice and there are some specialist football solicitors who will be able to help. The football supporters federation will be able to point you in the right direction. 

As  previously stated with regards to this offence the law does not differentiate between joyous celebrations of last minute winning goals or something else altogether. It is clear  the policy is for those who do it and get caught will be dealt with by us , and potentially worse case scenario a criminal record and a football ban , best case an offcial police caution and club ban for a certain amount of home games. 

 

 

 

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Flinty will see off any pitch invasion!

Did you see the look he gave that idiot who went onto the pitch yesterday.

Bloke had run passed a couple of Forest players, but Aden just gave him "the stare" and a couple of choice words and he ran off to surrender himself to the stewards!  :clapping:

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25 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

Flinty will see off any pitch invasion!

Did you see the look he gave that idiot who went onto the pitch yesterday.

Bloke had run passed a couple of Forest players, but Aden just gave him "the stare" and a couple of choice words and he ran off to surrender himself to the stewards!  :clapping:

Yes I laughed at that too. Brilliant.

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1 hour ago, Red-Robbo said:

Flinty will see off any pitch invasion!

Did you see the look he gave that idiot who went onto the pitch yesterday.

Bloke had run passed a couple of Forest players, but Aden just gave him "the stare" and a couple of choice words and he ran off to surrender himself to the stewards!  :clapping:

Potential police officer once his career finishes ???

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1 minute ago, Dollymarie said:

I think I’d have to fight @JulieH for him. I also think I’ve got to stop talking about Flinty cos the boyfriend doesn’t like it :ph34r:

Just do a deal with him like Danny Baker and his wife Wendy have. If Jennifer Aniston wants him he can go with her blessing and if George Clooney wants her she can with his.

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On 12/16/2017 at 17:21, AshtonPark said:

Hopefully not, only a bit of banter. 

Banning order for passion? That fan has done nothing but love the badge on the shirt. 

I love the badge on the shirt so much that when the whistle blows and we've beaten United 3 nil, I'm on the pitch, just like everyone else on this thread.

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