Bar BS3 Posted December 22, 2017 Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 17 minutes ago, Ivorguy said: I find your comment awfully rude. You know nothing about my professional qualifications. Challenge my interpretation of the law as much as you like but do not descend to personal abuse. Thanks He doesn’t need to “know you” to know that you are talking shite though, does he..?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septic Peg Posted December 22, 2017 Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Cider_boy said: These tickets better get cancelled. I bought Scotty Murray's seat, but now I'm worried I'll have to wash the kit after the game. Do not worry. Myself and @RedM will step up and take one for the team on your behalf. I would volunteer @Dollymarie but she's too loved up now, whereas myself and M are both happily married to our spouses for many years and the honeymoon period is a mere distant memory. Having to rifle through Marlon Pack's boxers and Aden Flint's shorts will be a difficult task for us but we will persevere for the good of all. Think of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fat Controller Posted December 22, 2017 Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 Ticket for Man City game for sale. £1000000. They're not on sale any more so you best be quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayteomike2 Posted December 22, 2017 Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 Simple answer just buy a season ticket I miss a few games but work out holiday for important games simple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted December 22, 2017 Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Bar BS3 said: He doesn’t need to “know you” to know that you are talking shite though, does he..?! Can we get scans of people’s professional qualifications on here, because I know those of one of the posters, and pretty sure he’s bang on if anyone really wanted to push it about the tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted December 22, 2017 Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, RumRed said: Can we get scans of people’s professional qualifications on here, because I know those of one of the posters, and pretty sure he’s bang on if anyone really wanted to push it about the tickets. Pretty sure the clubs T&C’s of sale cover against genuine mistakes of sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted December 22, 2017 Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: Pretty sure the clubs T&C’s of sale cover against genuine mistakes of sale. T&Cs are pretty meaningless in court, they are there to put the plebs off trying anything. If the club took money and confirmed tickets that is a contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!james Posted December 22, 2017 Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, RumRed said: Can we get scans of people’s professional qualifications on here, because I know those of one of the posters, and pretty sure he’s bang on if anyone really wanted to push it about the tickets. 1 minute ago, Bar BS3 said: Pretty sure the clubs T&C’s of sale cover against genuine mistakes of sale. Yep standard T&C's, same scenario as when Curry's lists a TV online for £4.99 rather than £499 and people purchase them. They have every right to cancel the orders. Most companies will have it in T&C's it only accepts orders once it has delivered the goods. It says the processing of a payment and acknowledgement of an order does not constitute a legally binding contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted December 22, 2017 Admin Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Ivorguy said: And some of you think Bristol Sport is good for City. In over a century did our club ever make such a gross and elementary error? No City may be Premiership ready but clearly Bristol Sport isn't Sort it Lansdown Just imagine if the club let too many people in against say rovers then when season ticket holders arrived they were not able to get in......... Oh hang on What exactly has a club owner got to do with the running of the clubs ticketing website? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted December 22, 2017 Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, RumRed said: T&Cs are pretty meaningless in court, they are there to put the plebs off trying anything. If the club took money and confirmed tickets that is a contract. Good luck to anyone who thinks they can prove their point before kick-off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted December 22, 2017 Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: Pretty sure the clubs T&C’s of sale cover against genuine mistakes of sale. Think the company will find it much more complex than that And bottom line is this is the sort of mistake that should never happen in a well run organisation. As someone commented earlier the problem lies with the low salaries paid to key administrators within the company. This must change or else failings of this sort will inevitably continue to the detriment of all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted December 22, 2017 Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, !james said: Yep standard T&C's, same scenario as when Curry's lists a TV online for £4.99 rather than £499 and people purchase them. They have every right to cancel the orders. Most companies will have it in T&C's it only accepts orders once it has delivered the goods. It says the processing of a payment and acknowledgement of an order does not constitute a legally binding contract. Oh well that’s me wrong then, I thought process of payment and agreement was the point of a contract. Or Currys’ put bullshit in their T&Cs.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted December 22, 2017 Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 Can anyone point to where the T&C's are? I've almost gone through the process of buying a ticket for a different game (in basket and ready to pay) and didn't see them available anywhere. Funny part being they say on the further info and FAQ's in your email that tickets aren't refundable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted December 22, 2017 Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 11 minutes ago, Ayteomike2 said: Simple answer just buy a season ticket I miss a few games but work out holiday for important games simple Simple answer for those who can afford it yes! For those who can’t its not an option. Nothing worse than when people assume they are all in the same boat and that just because it is something some can afford everyone else should be able to! As said earlier, I have a season ticket for many years up to this season. For more than one reason I couldn’t get one this season and it just so happens we are having the season of our dreams. Am I gutted about it, damn right I am. Am I going to feel bad about trying to get a ticket for a cup semi final, am I ****! Do I think I am any less of a fan of the club because I don’t have a season ticket? Not in the slightest. Finances don’t dictate how much someone supports a club! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted December 22, 2017 Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 37 minutes ago, Ivorguy said: I find your comment awfully rude. You know nothing about my professional qualifications. Challenge my interpretation of the law as much as you like but do not descend to personal abuse. Thanks I find your comment awfully rude. You know nothing about my intended message. Challenge my interpretation that you are the forum's resident contract law expert as much as you like but do not descend to personal abuse. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!james Posted December 22, 2017 Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, hodge said: Can anyone point to where the T&C's are? I've almost gone through the process of buying a ticket for a different game (in basket and ready to pay) and didn't see them available anywhere. Funny part being they say on the further info and FAQ's in your email that tickets aren't refundable. https://tickets.bristol-sport.co.uk/screenloader.aspx?type=include&page=documents/html/TsandCs.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted December 22, 2017 Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, hodge said: Can anyone point to where the T&C's are? I've almost gone through the process of buying a ticket for a different game (in basket and ready to pay) and didn't see them available anywhere. Funny part being they say on the further info and FAQ's in your email that tickets aren't refundable. If anyone could be assed, which they won’t as I’d hope as we all see it as the mistake it was, then the club can’t rely on its T&Cs. It’s not how it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayteomike2 Posted December 22, 2017 Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 It does seem if you go to 10 home games or more a season ticket is cheaper and better to get tickets for cup games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted December 22, 2017 Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 11 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said: I find your comment awfully rude. You know nothing about my intended message. Challenge my interpretation that you are the forum's resident contract law expert as much as you like but do not descend to personal abuse. Thanks. Are you working in contract law? What’s your take on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted December 22, 2017 Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, RumRed said: If anyone could be assed, which they won’t as I’d hope as we all see it as the mistake it was, then the club can’t rely on its T&Cs. It’s not how it works. Very quick skim I admit so could easily have missed it but couldn't see a rule on cancelling all tickets. If anything, going by the clubs own terms and conditions all purchases are final and can't be refunded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted December 22, 2017 Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 Just now, hodge said: Very quick skim I admit so could easily have missed it but couldn't see a rule on cancelling all tickets. If anything, going by the clubs own terms and conditions all purchases are final and can't be refunded. That was my reading of it. The club are hoping after their **** up that we’ll all play nice, which hopefully we will. Hardly got a leg to stand on though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City Rocker Posted December 22, 2017 Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 47 minutes ago, Ivorguy said: I find your comment awfully rude. You know nothing about my professional qualifications. Challenge my interpretation of the law as much as you like but do not descend to personal abuse. Thanks His post wasn't remotely abusive towards you, don't be so sensitive! 1 hour ago, Bar BS3 said: This one was though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted December 22, 2017 Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 Just now, RumRed said: Are you working in contract law? What’s your take in this? No, I don't work in contract law. My take (based on previous advice received in another sector) is that the club can reasonably void any contract formed. I am not a legal professional so I won't extend upon that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted December 22, 2017 Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said: No, I don't work in contract law. My take (based on previous advice received in another sector) is that the club can reasonably void any contract formed. I am not a legal professional so I won't extend upon that. Fair enough and neither am I but some on this thread are. Plus it really grinds my gears that people believe that big companies T&Cs resolve them of any responsibility. I’m not talking about BS here but if you’ve been ****** over do not give up because the small print says ‘we’re allowed to **** you over’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrightCiderLife Posted December 22, 2017 Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 For those of you pretending to be legal experts, please explain how this doesn't fall squarely within the doctrine of unilateral mistake, thereby allowing the vendor (the Club) to rescind the contract (cancelling the contract and returning everyone to their original position)? Show's over folks. Genuine mistake, as everyone purchasing it knew, so the club can cancel the contract. Edit: @RumRed T&Cs do stand up in court and are legally valid - almost all of the leading cases in contract law turn on interpretation of T&Cs - Google "Lord Denning's big red hand" (aka Thornton v Shoe Lane Parking Ltd [1970] EWCA Civ 2) and the associated case law for an analysis as to when and how T&Cs can be incorporated into a contract under English law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedo Posted December 22, 2017 Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 2 hours ago, steviestevieneville said: Hope you don’t get refunded now , obviously a mistake and you could of potentially bought someone’s season card seat. Bang out of order here, here. what a ****. it’ll be on sky anyway for armchair nause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted December 22, 2017 Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 32 minutes ago, RumRed said: T&Cs are pretty meaningless in court, they are there to put the plebs off trying anything. If the club took money and confirmed tickets that is a contract. ... covered by T&C’s of sale, in case of a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted December 22, 2017 Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 43 minutes ago, Septic Peg said: Do not worry. Myself and @RedM will step up and take one for the team on your behalf. I would volunteer @Dollymarie but she's too loved up now, whereas myself and M are both happily married to our spouses for many years and the honeymoon period is a mere distant memory. Having to rifle through Marlon Pack's boxers and Aden Flint's shorts will be a difficult task for us but we will persevere for the good of all. Think of us. Absolutely sister, it’s hard work but someone’s got to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted December 22, 2017 Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 33 minutes ago, phantom said: Just imagine if the club let too many people in against say rovers then when season ticket holders arrived they were not able to get in......... Oh hang on What exactly has a club owner got to do with the running of the clubs ticketing website? Don’t try to reason with the Troll! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agard Days Night Posted December 22, 2017 Report Share Posted December 22, 2017 8 minutes ago, BrightCiderLife said: For those of you pretending to be legal experts, please explain how this doesn't fall squarely within the doctrine of unilateral mistake, thereby allowing the vendor (the Club) to rescind the contract (cancelling the contract and returning everyone to their original position)? Show's over folks. Genuine mistake, as everyone purchasing it knew, so the club can cancel the contract. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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