class_not_gas Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 57 minutes ago, class not gas said: Been released by QPR would you take him now? NO....... from the original class_not_gas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 46 minutes ago, Edge1981 said: Great player when he was with us but he isn’t the same player now and we can’t afford to be carrying players when we are gunning for promotion. Didn’t he partially blame us for his gambling problems too? The article you are thinking of was in the Guardian not so long ago and, as I recall it, he wasn't apportioning "blame" at all, just describing the circumstances he found himself living in at City. Thanks (or not) to a God given talent he found himself at a very young age with too much time and money on his hands - nothing wrong with that, except when your brain is wired to an addictive personality. That way demons lie. None of it is anyone's "fault". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 No way. Absolute liability these days, goes nowhere near a football pitch and QPR have only held onto him this long because they couldn't afford to pay him off. The champagne corks are popping amongst QPR fans. http://qprdot.org/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=80488&sid=fb430271f1a9eae46d3076150838aed7 Quote Just JET to get shot of now and the last of the layabouts has gone. It's a credit to the lads who have been playing each week that they have worked so hard knowing these two have been pulling in thousands for doing bugger all. W*nker bled us dry, coming to a gutter near you soon. I'm sure he'll turn up at a club in the championship who needs his 'experience'. Cardiff are after three loan signings to see them though, so why not give Caulker £25k a week to warm his backside on the bench!! Perhaps he'll end up laundering a few Russian US Dollars at some outpost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 Take him on trial - if he's flawed, it will show up. Most people deserve a second chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 32 minutes ago, CityFarAndWide said: Not sure he blamed us directly but he stated that he was given a flat by Spurs on his own with no guidance/monitoring (by Spurs or us) within walking distance of casino's/bars. It was when he was City. Having a predisposition to addictive behaviour putting him up in the centre of town surrounded by bars and casinos simply fed his addictive personality. His problems would have developed wherever he'd been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Robbored said: No. Got too many personal issues. Didn't you used to work in mental health? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 47 minutes ago, Clarky89 said: Rather be wrong than whatever you are. His opinion, on this one, is based on a good amount of professional expertise. So he knows what he's talking about, for once And anyway, if he was fit as a fiddle in body and, more importantly, in mind why on earth would QPR be releasing him? They wouldn't, so clearly something is still amiss. I wouldn't be surprised if he drops out of football altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, Up The City! said: Didn't you used to work in mental health? For 38 years until I retired in 2010. Spent the last 26 years counselling in addiction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeneys Penalties Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 No. Not yet anyway. He needs to get himself sorted before he plays Pro Football again. If/when he finally recovers, he'll need to re start a long way down the Football Pyramid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 1 hour ago, bcfcredandwhite said: I thought he could have been the next Tony Adams from what I saw during his time with us. I also thought Danny Rose was an utter waste of space during the same spell - spent all his time sat on his arse crying for a free kick. Funny how things work out - or perhaps I just don’t understand football!!! Don’t worry, you weren’t alone. I guess I don’t understand either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 50 minutes ago, tinman85 said: Take him back on a free as cover. Good player. How many players are you suggesting we sign? It feels like you're wanting about two dozen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 Hmm, I think he’s worth a go. Can’t believe he’s only just turning 26. Still got plenty of time to turn himself around. Plenty of things to consider but I definitely wouldn’t be against a trial.. imagine if we got the best out of him.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Fox Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 No. Anyone we bring in January needs to be up to speed straight away. This guy is a problem, and if he can not cut it at QPR, then can not seeing him being any help to us. Hope he sorts himself out, but imo he is yesterdays news. Had the talent but blew it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redtucks Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 1 hour ago, class not gas said: There is a quality player in there somewhere,maybe Johnson and co can bring it out of him. .....and if they don't they'll be slated!!! (Wasn't the same said about Tomlin?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Robbored said: Unless Johnson is a qualified addiction counsellor, you're 100% wrong Can you cure yourself with your addiction to our Tannoy ? Considering you are a qualified addiction counsellor ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poland_exile Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 wouldn't touch him with a barge pole - hope he conquers his personal demons, but with team spirit right now proving so key it feels like too much of a risk to take a punt on someone carrying so much emotional baggage. Good luck to him mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yardy Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 Surprised and a bit gutted at how his career has turned out so far. When with us he looked a class act and in my opinion was destined for the very top and a regular England international. I don't think we need a player like this now, we want players to hit the ground running and not someone that needs help on and off the pitch. Not too late to sort his head out and get his career back on track, really hope he does. Good luck Caulks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipps69 Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 23 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said: How many players are you suggesting we sign? It feels like you're wanting about two dozen! Just anyone linked with any other club, that’s all. And once those players have moved to other clubs, you can be assured that there’ll be loads of posts asking ‘why we didn’t go for them’? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 6 minutes ago, Spoons said: Can you cure yourself with your addiction to our Tannoy ? Considering you are a qualified addiction counsellor ? You don't know what addiction actually means do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, Robbored said: You don't know what addiction actually means do you? Oh believe me I do!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 Johnson does seem to be a good man manager off the pitch, perhaps if we could set him up right (counselling etc) then perhaps a 6 month deal to see how he does, if all is okay by the end of the season another 12 month contract to see if he can get back to his old standard. Would be risky though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Simpson Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 11 minutes ago, Robbored said: You don't know what addiction actually means do you? Surely someone with over 26,000 posts on this forum must have some sort of problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Red Right Hand said: Would Jamie Mac have played in the same side as him too or am I getting my dates mixed up? Yes he would have done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 Didn’t Caulker have a relationship with someone in Cardiff and they had a child together? Maybe Bristol being closer than London might be a factor if he still has contact with either or both? * * Not saying we are even considering him mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 14 minutes ago, Spoons said: Oh believe me I do!! Then you'll know that making perfectly reasonable complaints about the PA system in the Dolman is not an addiction. I will admit to it being a huge frustration given the redevelopment of AG that the sound system is so shockingly poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 21 minutes ago, Robbored said: You don't know what addiction actually means do you? I don't think you do! For someone that has worked in this field and the mental health field for so long you should be an expert. But saying we shouldn't employ someone because of their problems is damn right wrong (and likely illegal) as an expert you should no better than that. Addiction is in most cases, just a symptom of a deep underlying problem, but being an expert you are you would know that wouldn't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 Three little letters will stop any thought of this player coming here's; DNA. Thanks Mr Caulker for your time here and good luck son . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, Up The City! said: I don't think you do! For someone that has worked in this field and the mental health field for so long you should be an expert. But saying we shouldn't employ someone because of their problems is damn right wrong (and likely illegal) as an expert you should no better than that. Addiction is in most cases, just a symptom of a deep underlying problem, but being an expert you are you would know that wouldn't you? The highlighted portion of your post is nonsense as usual. Especially the shit about illegal FFS. It is very sad that he has an addiction and I hope that he finds a way to overcome his obvious demons, because he was once a very talented footballer. RR is expressing an opinion and one that I agree with and BCFC are a football club not the Betty Ford clinic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 10 minutes ago, Up The City! said: I don't think you do! For someone that has worked in this field and the mental health field for so long you should be an expert. But saying we shouldn't employ someone because of their problems is damn right wrong (and likely illegal) as an expert you should no better than that. Addiction is in most cases, just a symptom of a deep underlying problem, but being an expert you are you would know that wouldn't you? Judging from this reply you have a typical laymans understanding of the concept of addiction. Its an immensely complicated and damaging condition which can manifest itself in numerous different forms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevthered Posted December 28, 2017 Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 40 minutes ago, Robbored said: You don't know what addiction actually means do you? A bit like you on this site Robbo.......I believe that everyone should get another chance in the right circumstances..If he is good enough and out of contract then maybe a short term contract to the end of season on a trial like basis. If he is having counselling and responding to it and not disruptive then look at it further if not he is out on his ear especially if Baker is out for a while...Every ones a winner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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