mattjtsmith Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 I know he was only on for a bit, but was he any good? Anywhere near look like joining the squad at some point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiale Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 Poor lad got 30 minutes in a U23 lineup - doubt he's feeling to warm and fuzzy towards the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiale Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, JonDolman said: The radio Bristol commentator said they were planning on asking Johnson about what their plans were with Gustav after the game. Did johnson/Holden get asked this? Holden, said he looked good in training, had a good attitude, deserved a chance. So his reward was 30 minutes when 2-0 down.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Island Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 I’d love for him to prove me wrong but can’t help thinking he’s never going to make it in England. Maybe a less physical league would suit him better, if we can get our money back from a French or Dutch club that is the best we can hope for with our Gus I fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanker Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Fiale said: Holden, said he looked good in training, had a good attitude, deserved a chance. So his reward was 30 minutes when 2-0 down.... It doesn’t get much better than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxo Jr. Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 He looked sort of all right, which made him one of the better players in the team. Carved out more chances for himself than Taylor or Woodrow. Looked rusty, but tried a bunch of things to open up space. If the strikers were auditioning for a back-up role, he showed more in his cameo than Woodrow by a long way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 Think Holden said something like "We will see what happens in January" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Goch Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Luxo Jr. said: He looked sort of all right, which made him one of the better players in the team. Carved out more chances for himself than Taylor or Woodrow. Looked rusty, but tried a bunch of things to open up space. If the strikers were auditioning for a back-up role, he showed more in his cameo than Woodrow by a long way. Except he showed himself as a a striker who was too terrified to have a shot. Freddie Hinds showed him what to do as soon as he entered the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldlandReddies Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 With Diedhou and Duric to return he has no chance with us. Move him on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saunders87 Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 I’m sorry but the he should of started today over Woodrow - we’ve got a 21 year old striker who we payed over a million pounds for who has gone out on loan and was a perfect opportunity to see if he had improved any whilst out on loan. Woodrow brings nothing and is not our player would much preferred him to be put out there and at least put him in a shop window to try and recoup some of his price tag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judda Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 2 hours ago, Ser Davos Ciderworth said: I’d love for him to prove me wrong but can’t help thinking he’s never going to make it in England. Maybe a less physical league would suit him better, if we can get our money back from a French or Dutch club that is the best we can hope for with our Gus I fear. Half our money back is the best we could hope for I reckon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedNight Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 I was listening on Radio - he sounded decent. LJ has seen a lot more of him then us, so ultimately he will make a decision. I have heard he really struggles with living away from Sweden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redtucks Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 2 hours ago, mattjtsmith said: I know he was only on for a bit, but was he any good? Anywhere near look like joining the squad at some point? Did more in the 30 minutes he was on than Taylor and Woodrow did in the whole time they were on. Was worth starting him IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 2 hours ago, Fiale said: Poor lad got 30 minutes in a U23 lineup - doubt he's feeling to warm and fuzzy towards the club. Well tough luck...send the puppy home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, Judda said: Half our money back is the best we could hope for I reckon Couple that with the inflated wages issue in English football (well maybe in the top two divisions) and that also becomes an issue. We'll end up paying him up, and the half (if we get lucky) becomes a quarter, At which point you almost may as well keep him. I still wonder whether its more of a mental issue, and if he scores one he'll score a ton. But as @Robin Goch said, he's too terrified to take a shot, so.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxo Jr. Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Robin Goch said: Except he showed himself as a a striker who was too terrified to have a shot. Freddie Hinds showed him what to do as soon as he entered the pitch. Well he was rusty. With respect, it's not like Hinds' shot was any good. I thought both worked well - Engvall got himself 3 opportunities: one he should have shot, another I think he thought he was getting a penalty and didn't want to shoot to risk the ref playing advantage, and the third the defender got in the way at point blank range. Hinds came on, got himself space and had a shot - fair play, but it was along the ground, straight at the keeper and not very quick. I think Engvall showed more, admittedly with more time, than him and Woodrow and Taylor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Goch Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Luxo Jr. said: Well he was rusty. With respect, it's not like Hinds' shot was any good. I thought both worked well - Engvall got himself 3 opportunities: one he should have shot, another I think he thought he was getting a penalty and didn't want to shoot to risk the ref playing advantage, and the third the defender got in the way at point blank range. Hinds came on, got himself space and had a shot - fair play, but it was along the ground, straight at the keeper and not very quick. I think Engvall showed more, admittedly with more time, than him and Woodrow and Taylor. He definitely showed more than Woodrow without a shadow of doubt. The misplaced pass by Woodrow when we were on a counter in the second half summed up his performance. I agree Hind’s shot wasn’t the greatest but considering that was the only shot we had on target after some of the positions we found ourselves in is criminal. Unfortunately Engvall twice found himself through on goal and took the wrong decision. The first one (the one which should have been called as a pen) was forgivable as rustiness, the later one not so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxo Jr. Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Robin Goch said: He definitely showed more than Woodrow without a shadow of doubt. The misplaced pass by Woodrow when we were on a counter in the second half summed up his performance. I agree Hind’s shot wasn’t the greatest but considering that was the only shot we had on target after some of the positions we found ourselves in is criminal. Unfortunately Engvall twice found himself through on goal and took the wrong decision. The first one (the one which should have been called as a pen) was forgivable as rustiness, the later one not so. Yeah, agreed in general. He's still only 21 though, so that will happen sometimes. I think because of the fee we paid and the way he looks, people forget just how young he is. Almost 3 years younger than Woodrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whites Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 He was the best of the four for me today. Some clever little touches and link up play. Would like to see him get a run but is rightly fourth or fifth in the pecking order with all fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Second City Exile Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 Just back from Watford and, reading this thread, thought I must have been at another game watching different players! Both Engvall and Woodrow did nothing to effect the game, as one of our former managers used to say. Why doesn't Engvall shoot when he has the chance? LJ had his hands on his head in frustration, as did the crowd. Woodrow should return to Fulham. He has had his chance. It isn't working for Engvall either-doesn't seem to fit in English football. There was no threat today at all. Taylor? A free header chance missed- another striker who finds it difficult to finish ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donkeeebles Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 I thought he did well when he came on. Movement was good, twice he made runs in behind their defence but the ball didn't arrive. His decision making was off but he looked to me like someone who wants to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattjtsmith Posted January 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 Well going on these reports, mostly anyway, it seems he's not a million miles away. Still has a few years to come good really so it could just be a patience game. It's a shame that striking in league one is so different, as with not wanting to loan a goal scorer to a rival, getting valuable English experience could be tough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 2 hours ago, Judda said: Half our money back is the best we could hope for I reckon 2 hours ago, Sleepy1968 said: Couple that with the inflated wages issue in English football (well maybe in the top two divisions) and that also becomes an issue. We'll end up paying him up, and the half (if we get lucky) becomes a quarter, At which point you almost may as well keep him. I still wonder whether its more of a mental issue, and if he scores one he'll score a ton. But as @Robin Goch said, he's too terrified to take a shot, so.... So how much did we pay exactly if we’re talking ‘half of it back’? I only see a ‘reported’ €1.6M which isn’t a lot for a Swedish international striker. Is this confirmed? Also what are his (assumed to be) inflated wages? The guy has just got himself back in the fold and had a 30 min run out. I think the jury is not out and he has plenty of time on his side to give it a good go. Seems to be tarred with uncertainty and he can still make an impression. That’s up to him to do and LJ and co will do what’s best for him, I’m more than sure. Things haven’t clicked yet, but he’s a player in development, not one who’s an established name in the lineup. Not something we can’t afford to keep, surely?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS3_RED Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 3 hours ago, Judda said: Half our money back is the best we could hope for I reckon This though Woodrow was a joke and how he started ahead of one of our own is a bigger joke. Stealing a wage from BCFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champion Dung Spreader Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 2 hours ago, Donkeeebles said: I thought he did well when he came on. Movement was good, twice he made runs in behind their defence but the ball didn't arrive. His decision making was off but he looked to me like someone who wants to play. Agree. I'm just back from being "up the (Watford) junction". Thought this was the best I've seen Engvall play - linked play with some clever touches and seemed a handful at times. Aged 21 he has potential - it took Bobby Reid a long time to click. A long way to go, but if he can get loaned out for experience, he could flourish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRFTG Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 6 hours ago, mattjtsmith said: but was he any good? He is to football what bears are to deposits in woods. Had we not wasted so much dosh on him he'd have gone long since and remains as nobody in Scandiland will or can afford his salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judda Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 8 hours ago, BS3_RED said: This though Woodrow was a joke and how he started ahead of one of our own is a bigger joke. Stealing a wage from BCFC I agree. Can we send woodrow back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
You Do The Dziekanowski Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 He’ll be on the bench Tuesday and may even get a cameo. Reid - Pato - Taylor - Engvall as our only options up top for that game. Screams goals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampshire reds Posted January 7, 2018 Report Share Posted January 7, 2018 The problem we have with gus is when does he get game time to prove he can do it at this level. With reid and players coming back from injury and rumours we want the lad from Preston just can't see how he will get the chance. Sadly it might be time to move him on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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