steviestevieneville Posted January 13, 2018 Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 Thought I’d start a positive thread as some on here are in meltdown after a few defeats. i thought the young lad looked quality today especially second half . Quick feet , two footed, brilliant dead ball delivery, great vision and gets stuck in. The lad is/will be a great signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwicolin Posted January 13, 2018 Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 He looks good. With more game time and more understanding with the team , can only get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slack Bladder Posted January 13, 2018 Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 Looks like he's gonna fit in very nicely indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hocca Posted January 13, 2018 Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 Second half he was steady, first half though I’m sure there was a 10 minute period where he gave the ball away 5 times?! Thought he looked off the pace first half tbh understandable given he’s just arrived I suppose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted January 13, 2018 Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 Looked very very good from where I was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 13, 2018 Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, Hocca said: Second half he was steady, first half though I’m sure there was a 10 minute period where he gave the ball away 5 times?! Thought he looked off the pace first half tbh understandable given he’s just arrived I suppose Yep he had a nightmare first half as did many. Did improve though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted January 13, 2018 Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 Massively liked the lad based on his first start today . Gonna be much more to come once he settles in . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redstreet Posted January 13, 2018 Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 12 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said: Thought I’d start a positive thread as some on here are in meltdown after a few defeats. i thought the young lad looked quality today especially second half . Quick feet , two footed, brilliant dead ball delivery, great vision and gets stuck in. The lad is/will be a great signing. Good to hear a positive . I thought he did well and looks a good prospect . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted January 13, 2018 Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 14 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said: Thought I’d start a positive thread as some on here are in meltdown after a few defeats. i thought the young lad looked quality today especially second half . Quick feet , two footed, brilliant dead ball delivery, great vision and gets stuck in. The lad is/will be a great signing. Agreed. Very promising Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted January 13, 2018 Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 Gonna don my tin hat here Agree with your description generally Stevie and undoubtedly has some decent attributes (Still not sure why we played him centrally with Smith and Pack - almost tripping over each other at times) I like how he changed the direction of play Tin Hat time........... ( I was pleased with his signing and technically he’s clearly decent although from memory he didn’t play a penetrating ball but more keep ball / keeping us ticking in the playing style of Lee himself ) I have one concern about him In his interview he admitted he likes to boss teammates and tell them where to go / where to be etc Noticed on Tuesday he came on with lots of pointing and shouting which can be a good thing He was very vocal today pointing and barking out orders , constantly demanding the ball , and clearly has a lot of self confidence which should be / become an asset I just hope that the new lad bundling in with this approach doesn’t cause irritation or upset what we have He IMHO will need to deliver if he’s going to be so vocal / bossy or he may start to grate on some long standing established players here This slight concern might not go down well but would be similar to @Davefevs uneasiness over Tomlin following his pre season video Probably more to do with frustration at the performance and result , but a mark of this side is that I can rarely remember this side bickering or pointing fingers at each other after mistakes I saw more today than I’ve seen in ages (Not down to / involving Walsh necessarily tbf) Hope that my concern proves unfounded o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
internetjef Posted January 13, 2018 Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 Thought he looked promising. Few stray passes/touches and I didn't think he was quite on same wavelength as some of the other players, but that will come with time no doubt. Looked like could be a very tidy little midfielder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 13, 2018 Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 As others have said, the lad produced some decent touches but was (understandingly) trying a too hard. He was caught several times in possession but we saw enough to see that has abundance of ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman85 Posted January 13, 2018 Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 I just cant see it guys. Sorry!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepUpLino Posted January 13, 2018 Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, tinman85 said: I just cant see it guys. Sorry!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted January 13, 2018 Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 14 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Gonna don my tin hat here Agree with your description generally Stevie and undoubtedly has some decent attributes (Still not sure why we played him centrally with Smith and Pack - almost tripping over each other at times) I like how he changed the direction of play Tin Hat time........... ( I was pleased with his signing and technically he’s clearly decent although from memory he didn’t play a penetrating ball but more keep ball / keeping us ticking in the playing style of Lee himself ) I have one concern about him In his interview he admitted he likes to boss teammates and tell them where to go / where to be etc Noticed on Tuesday he came on with lots of pointing and shouting which can be a good thing He was very vocal today pointing and barking out orders , constantly demanding the ball , and clearly has a lot of self confidence which should be / become an asset I just hope that the new lad bundling in with this approach doesn’t cause irritation or upset what we have He IMHO will need to deliver if he’s going to be so vocal / bossy or he may start to grate on some long standing established players here This slight concern might not go down well but would be similar to @Davefevs uneasiness over Tomlin following his pre season video Probably more to do with frustration at the performance and result , but a mark of this side is that I can rarely remember this side bickering or pointing fingers at each other after mistakes I saw more today than I’ve seen in ages (Not down to / involving Walsh necessarily tbf) Hope that my concern proves unfounded o I had the same concern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted January 13, 2018 Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 16 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Gonna don my tin hat here Agree with your description generally Stevie and undoubtedly has some decent attributes (Still not sure why we played him centrally with Smith and Pack - almost tripping over each other at times) I like how he changed the direction of play Tin Hat time........... ( I was pleased with his signing and technically he’s clearly decent although from memory he didn’t play a penetrating ball but more keep ball / keeping us ticking in the playing style of Lee himself ) I have one concern about him In his interview he admitted he likes to boss teammates and tell them where to go / where to be etc Noticed on Tuesday he came on with lots of pointing and shouting which can be a good thing He was very vocal today pointing and barking out orders , constantly demanding the ball , and clearly has a lot of self confidence which should be / become an asset I just hope that the new lad bundling in with this approach doesn’t cause irritation or upset what we have He IMHO will need to deliver if he’s going to be so vocal / bossy or he may start to grate on some long standing established players here This slight concern might not go down well but would be similar to @Davefevs uneasiness over Tomlin following his pre season video Probably more to do with frustration at the performance and result , but a mark of this side is that I can rarely remember this side bickering or pointing fingers at each other after mistakes I saw more today than I’ve seen in ages (Not down to / involving Walsh necessarily tbf) Hope that my concern proves unfounded o I really like him in terms of his ability. He’s clever, agile and creative with a great passing range. I really believe he’s going be quality. Your observation about his temperament is interesting. I saw him exchanging words and pushing Norwich players many times in the game a few occasions disagreeing with Bryan about things. Hopefully it’ll be a positive influence on the team. In fairness I often see Flint telling people off, Bryan too.. even Korey Smith did a couple of times today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted January 13, 2018 Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 8 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: I really like him in terms of his ability. He’s clever, agile and creative with a great passing range. I really believe he’s going be quality. Your observation about his temperament is interesting. I saw him exchanging words and pushing Norwich players many times in the game a few occasions disagreeing with Bryan about things. Hopefully it’ll be a positive influence on the team. In fairness I often see Flint telling people off, Bryan too.. even Korey Smith did a couple of times today. Yep PF My concern is he’s coming into a tight knit group without obvious egos , and if he decides to take up the role of onfield ‘boss’ , as a newbie he will need to deliver otherwise it may not go down well Flint , Smith & Bryan have more than earns the the right , and more importantly the respect of teammates to bark out orders etc at times Walsh needs to do that before he gets carried away (We obviously don’t know what he’s shouting but he has plenty to say) Hope it proves unnecessary concern but one to keep a gentle eye on Cough .....,,Ryan Fredericks (and slight concern re Birmingham) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted January 13, 2018 Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 22 minutes ago, tinman85 said: I just cant see it guys. Sorry!!! I find that opening your eyes helps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted January 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Yep PF My concern is he’s coming into a tight knit group without obvious egos , and if he decides to take up the role of onfield ‘boss’ , as a newbie he will need to deliver otherwise it may not go down well Flint , Smith & Bryan have more than earns the the right , and more importantly the respect of teammates to bark out orders etc at times Walsh needs to do that before he gets carried away (We obviously don’t know what he’s shouting but he has plenty to say) Hope it proves unnecessary concern but one to keep a gentle eye on Cough .....,,Ryan Fredericks (and slight concern re Birmingham) Dressing room couldn’t of been a happy place at Birmingham Bob and we do our due diligence on players attitudes lifestyles now so not a concern of mine tbh . Not LW fault but I did think he did take up a fair bit of space that pato likes to run in. Certainly seemed to play with 5 in there and it did seem congested at times especially with no one apart from bobby willing to run past and stretch Norwich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC RISK77 Posted January 13, 2018 Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 53 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said: Thought I’d start a positive thread as some on here are in meltdown after a few defeats. i thought the young lad looked quality today especially second half . Quick feet , two footed, brilliant dead ball delivery, great vision and gets stuck in. The lad is/will be a great signing. Looked very nervy in the first half but settled after a while...looks a baller which fits into what we have...also has a nasty bite tackle reminds me of a joey Barton in his prime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollywhyte Posted January 13, 2018 Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 Reminds me of Joe Allen, and that's a compliment. Will fit into our team perfectly. One real positive for me today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted January 13, 2018 Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said: Dressing room couldn’t of been a happy place at Birmingham Bob and we do our due diligence on players attitudes lifestyles now so not a concern of mine tbh . Not LW fault but I did think he did take up a fair bit of space that pato likes to run in. Certainly seemed to play with 5 in there and it did seem congested at times especially with no one apart from bobby willing to run past and stretch Norwich Agree about Brums dressing room and my slight concern is more about what he said and what I’ve seen Tues and today in particulular - just needs to play a part rather than take complete control As for your second paragraph - spot on - I am bemused why Lee did it and took so long to change it when it appeared obviousbit wasn’t working at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCRED Posted January 13, 2018 Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 He showed for the ball so often and didn’t always get it but once he found the right pockets of space in the second half he flourished. I liked what I saw of him today, just a shame some on here want to make assumptions about his character and do the lad down when he’s only been at the club a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted January 13, 2018 Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, INCRED said: He showed for the ball so often and didn’t always get it but once he found the right pockets of space in the second half he flourished. I liked what I saw of him today, just a shame some on here want to make assumptions about his character and do the lad down when he’s only been at the club a week. Who’s making ‘assumptions’ about his ‘character’ ? Can only mean me ? I presume ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon79 Posted January 13, 2018 Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 Certainly a better second half than first half. My first thought was he needed to get his head up quicker or be more aware of his teammates position. Although you have to accept he hasn’t been here long & you would hope that comes with time. What I would say is that IMO, LJ made a mistake starting him, only in the sense that Paterson was then effectively left midfield, having to keep an eye on their right wing back ( good player). Paterson IMO is our most creative player & needs to be 10/15 yards further forward, a lot closer to Bobby who was isolated. But with regards Walsh, I would say not a bad start, with real potential to get better. COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzos Only Goal Posted January 13, 2018 Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 44 minutes ago, tinman85 said: I just cant see it guys. Sorry!!! I think you would struggle to see any positive attributes in Messi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted January 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Agree about Brums dressing room and my slight concern is more about what he said and what I’ve seen Tues and today in particulular - just needs to play a part rather than take complete control As for your second paragraph - spot on - I am bemused why Lee did it and took so long to change it when it appeared obviousbit wasn’t working at all Not sure I share your concerns just yet regarding any possible ruffling of feathers amongst the squad. There isn’t enough leaders in the game anymore and as long as it’s positive I don’t see a problem. It will be a good problem to have but in a few weeks we’ll have Callum back so we’ll have . Pack , Smith , pato, Walsh , brownhill , O’dowda, Kent and elliasson fighting for 4 places. Will be great for squad strength and it’s what we’ve lacked recently but it will be interesting to see what happens . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted January 13, 2018 Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said: Not sure I share your concerns just yet regarding any possible ruffling of feathers amongst the squad. There isn’t enough leaders in the game anymore and as long as it’s positive I don’t see a problem. Again , agree Stevie As I’ve said - can’t hear what he’s shouting and I like talkers all around the pitch - Just hope he’s a taiker and not bossy as he alluded to in his interview Having managed a few sides I know that doesn’t always go down with a new player and someone like @Davefevs who has been in a few dressing rooms at a pretty decent standard may throw some light on this type of scenario In my experience The quicker he earns teammates respect as a player and a character / person , the less the impact and any raised eyebrows or irritation (If there was to be any) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted January 13, 2018 Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 1 hour ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Gonna don my tin hat here Agree with your description generally Stevie and undoubtedly has some decent attributes (Still not sure why we played him centrally with Smith and Pack - almost tripping over each other at times) I like how he changed the direction of play Tin Hat time........... ( I was pleased with his signing and technically he’s clearly decent although from memory he didn’t play a penetrating ball but more keep ball / keeping us ticking in the playing style of Lee himself ) I have one concern about him In his interview he admitted he likes to boss teammates and tell them where to go / where to be etc Noticed on Tuesday he came on with lots of pointing and shouting which can be a good thing He was very vocal today pointing and barking out orders , constantly demanding the ball , and clearly has a lot of self confidence which should be / become an asset I just hope that the new lad bundling in with this approach doesn’t cause irritation or upset what we have He IMHO will need to deliver if he’s going to be so vocal / bossy or he may start to grate on some long standing established players here This slight concern might not go down well but would be similar to @Davefevs uneasiness over Tomlin following his pre season video Probably more to do with frustration at the performance and result , but a mark of this side is that I can rarely remember this side bickering or pointing fingers at each other after mistakes I saw more today than I’ve seen in ages (Not down to / involving Walsh necessarily tbf) Hope that my concern proves unfounded o Wasn't there a supposed fallout on the training ground at Brum involving him that scuppered his opportunities there??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuffle Posted January 13, 2018 Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 All teams need talkers irrespective of standard. Teams need leaders and you can never have too many and if Walsh is like that and makes a difference on the pitch and has a good work ethic he will be fine. It's the billy big bollocks who turn it on 1in 4 then disappear with no effort ala Tomlin who will piss off squad. @Davefevs will confirm this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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