UREDS_91 Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 22 minutes ago, Corsham Alf said: I certainly watched him very closely (as a season ticket holder). He improved a lot and his goal return was good but I never felt he had enough pace or trickery. Def not in the same class as Kodjia God people need to get it into their heads that they aren't the same player... Fams game is totally different to Kodjia's. They may have come from the same place but thats where the similarities end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamsober Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Robbored said: Winning 10 of the remains 19 matches is a tough ask and you're right about finishing strongly with the injured players gradually returning. It just a question of how much longer they'll be out. I wish the club would give us fans a rough estimate on the injured players. LJ tells you in his pre Derby report! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 6 hours ago, reddogkev said: I've read the possibility on these pages that his return may soon be imminent, but I can't see anything on the City site about him yet. Thought it would be interesting to look at the impact our most expensive ever player may have on his return to the side. As much as I loath the fact our 5 million pound man has lost a third of this season, it does cause a wave of excitement to think that his return may take us back to the top 2 spots in the table. Is it fair to expect him to return to goal scoring ways, or will he need at least a month to find his form again? He really is a fantastic foil for Bobby Reid and I can't wait for him to return. Anyone got any better idea when he is likely to be back in the first team fold? And to look into it a bit further, will his return alter the way we play? Circumstances dictate I don't see too many games at the moment, so interested to hear from those of you that may have watched all of his matches prior to injury. In short, no. It took 4/5 weeks for him to settle in at the start of the season, following a pre season. Whilst he found his feet and was really starting to perform, i expect there to be another bedding in period when he returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 11 minutes ago, UREDS_91 said: God people need to get it into their heads that they aren't the same player... Fams game is totally different to Kodjia's. They may have come from the same place but thats where the similarities end. Precisely, although they both wore white arm bandages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 Echoing what some others have said, we’ve got to remember what he was like when he first played for City. Poor control, lack of timing, easily out muscled by central defenders and not winning much in the air. After a long injury I can’t see him being any better when he comes back. It could be well into February before he reaches anywhere near peak form Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 He’d be close to Bobby for goals if he’d stayed fit this whole team imo. Possibly ahead if you consider penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, pongo88 said: Echoing what some others have said, we’ve got to remember what he was like when he first played for City. Poor control, lack of timing, easily out muscled by central defenders and not winning much in the air. After a long injury I can’t see him being any better when he comes back. It could be well into February before he reaches anywhere near peak form That's about 4 weeks and I'd happily take it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 90 Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 5 hours ago, Luxo Jr. said: He was in red hot form before his injury. One of the top scorers in the league, and still getting used to the new league. I've not seen anything worthy of your comment being objectively correct. He took a while to show any form (understandably playing in a new country/league) however for our biggest ever signing i'd expect more than an 'ok' striker. He may come back and find some form but what we need is a striker to come in and hit the ground running straight off the mark if we want a serious push for second place. I'm not comparing him to Kodjia or Tammy but that's the kind of striker we need IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregoryGoodridge Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 I think it would be hard for any player to return from injury all guns blazing, especially such a long injury. I reckon what’s more important with the (hopefully soon to be) returning players is the strength in depth it will give the squad, the competition for places, different options from the bench and generally giving the whole team/club a lift and boost of confidence for the rest of this brilliant season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted January 17, 2018 Admin Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 I think we also have to hope these returning players don't break down again this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 44 minutes ago, iamsober said: LJ tells you in his pre Derby report! He said only Famara in back training, that Wright is having a scan and that Taylor has a slight injury but unable to train. No time line involved at all. How long will Djuric,, Hegelar, GoN and Pisaro be roughly out for? No mention of them and that's the type of info I'm sure most of us would like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman85 Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 7 hours ago, Rednwhiterob said: Not convinced by him. Needs more time but I'm still waiting to be convinced it's money well spent. Agreed. The last thing I remember was that wayward header v Leeds. That said he was good at Ipswich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inactive user Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 4 hours ago, Luxo Jr. said: I am right. He was in great form. He was one of the top scorers. Of course the injury's a concern, but while he wasn't injured he was doing very well. Agree but I'm expecting a bit more than 12 and a half appearances and 5 goals in the league before I'm convinced it's £5.4 MILLION pounds well spent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 Didn’t LJ also mention Djúric in Italy doing some work with a Specialist. From Steve Allen’s videos, I’m pretty sure I had the same op (although I had both sides done together). I was back in 8 weeks, with professional re-hab. Think LJ said it was more likely to be 5 weeks, which is coming up soon. You have got to hope that this is the op that solves the problem. I never had any further groin issues after my repair. Re Diedhiou, I am surprised that at the point he got injured that some on here still don’t rate him. I can understand some thinking he took 4 or 5 games to get going, but his contribution (even if you discount his very good return of 6 goals) was excellent. I don’t get comparing his style to Kodjia, very different types of player. Ah well, each to their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Robbored said: He said only Famara in back training, that Wright is having a scan and that Taylor has a slight injury but unable to train. No time line involved at all. How long will Djuric,, Hegelar, GoN and Pisaro be roughly out for? No mention of them and that's the type of info I'm sure most of us would like. He did well to stretch that out for 30 minutes... https://www.bcfc.co.uk/bctv/player/?id=0_ic8etakm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Rednwhiterob said: Agree but I'm expecting a bit more than 12 and a half appearances and 5 goals in the league before I'm convinced it's £5.4 MILLION pounds well spent. Firstly, that's the market nowadays. Secondly, that really isn't the type of striker he is. His role goes beyond scoring goals. He brings others in to play and acts as a great foil for BR. He suits us down to the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Rednwhiterob said: Agree but I'm expecting a bit more than 12 and a half appearances and 5 goals in the league before I'm convinced it's £5.4 MILLION pounds well spent. Rob - just assume (for a mo’) that he hadn’t got injured. Say he now have continued the 12 game form, had 24 games and 10 goals and Bobby now had a few more (because he’s missed big Fam), say 18....would your view be any different? Even if you think he took a while to get going at the start, his form over his last 6/7/8 games was looking every bit a £5.3m player (in the current market). Extrapolate that form, and maybe that 24 games might have 15/16 goals instead. I know it’s all subjective and ifs, buts and maybes, but it’s not his fault he got injured....and I know some say that it was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inactive user Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Rob - just assume (for a mo’) that he hadn’t got injured. Say he now have continued the 12 game form, had 24 games and 10 goals and Bobby now had a few more (because he’s missed big Fam), say 18....would your view be any different? Even if you think he took a while to get going at the start, his form over his last 6/7/8 games was looking every bit a £5.3m player (in the current market). Extrapolate that form, and maybe that 24 games might have 15/16 goals instead. I know it’s all subjective and ifs, buts and maybes, but it’s not his fault he got injured....and I know some say that it was I quite agree. Every reason to be positive but it's a lot of money for us even if the market is bonkers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inactive user Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 16 minutes ago, Rednwhiterob said: Agree but I'm expecting a bit more than 12 and a half appearances and 5 goals in the league before I'm convinced it's £5.4 MILLION pounds well spent. You can snake me @View from the Dolman but I suppose it's very easy for you not to worry about the price if it's coming out of someone else's pocket eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inactive user Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 15 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said: Firstly, that's the market nowadays. Secondly, that really isn't the type of striker he is. His role goes beyond scoring goals. He brings others in to play and acts as a great foil for BR. He suits us down to the ground. Agree. But need to see more. Ok not his fault he's injured but how anyone can say right now it was a good investment is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, Rednwhiterob said: I quite agree. Every reason to be positive but it's a lot of money for us even if the market is bonkers. It's not really. We are/were thinking of spending almost double that on Jordan Hugill who is roughly the same age and maybe not even any better. Andy Carroll might be getting another £30m+ move before the month is out. For the record, I rate Carroll - but at his age and particularly with his injury record it seems a lot of money for not a great appearance record. If Nicky Maynard was 10 years younger, we would not be getting him for £2m if buying him now. The market has moved on significantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 4 hours ago, ZiderEyed said: Did you watch him exclusively at all? His link up play was outstanding before the injury, thought he was very impressive personally. Sort of player who can do a bit of everything. I agree with this. I thought he had come to terms with the pace and physicality of the English game before his injury as was showing us glimpses of just how good he can be in this country. With Bobby sat behind him, I think that's a blinding front pairing personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 34 minutes ago, Rednwhiterob said: Agree. But need to see more. Ok not his fault he's injured but how anyone can say right now it was a good investment is beyond me. I bet you Lee Johnson thinks it was, I bet you Mark Ashton does and I bet you Steve Lansdown does too. I’m being serious too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaspberryRed Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 9 hours ago, Phileas Fogg said: The Lee Johnson blueprint for how we play requires a destroyer like Diedhiou or Djuric. The mayhem these guys cause is designed to create space for the likes of Reid or Paterson to get into dangerous positions. It's impossible to say how long it'll take him to get up to speed. He's young and athletic so hopefully not too long. I predict we'll be a bit more potent with Diedhiou back, against Norwich we looked nonthreatening for the most part as they seemed to deal with Reid pretty well and the ball got bogged down in midfield. Looking forward to his return, but might not be until March that we start seeing his best form. So should be flying come the Play offs and Cup Final Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldlandReddies Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 He will be a fantastic new signing for us. Watch out the rest of the Championship, Zam is coming to get you ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 55 minutes ago, RaspberryRed said: So should be flying come the Play offs and Cup Final Cup final is Feb, he'll be hitting top form just in time for it if we're lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted January 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Ska Junkie said: I agree with this. I thought he had come to terms with the pace and physicality of the English game before his injury as was showing us glimpses of just how good he can be in this country. With Bobby sat behind him, I think that's a blinding front pairing personally. Agree totally, from my limited time seeing those two play together, they were definitely striking up a dangerous partnership. Really looking forward to seeing them link up again, hopefully soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whites Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 Would be top scorer easily if not injured and had played the same amount of games as Bobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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