Gifford Posted January 20, 2018 Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 Very poor away support, considering league position. Looked like 100/200 max tonight. Can't use the TV excuse. We took double the amount to Derby on a Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WECANDO Posted January 20, 2018 Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 57 minutes ago, Super said: Wow from Sane great run. Was a great run ffs that defending was crap. So weak. Can see better defenders on a Sunday morning in the local park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeneys Penalties Posted January 20, 2018 Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 2 hours ago, reformed_red said: Newcastle are an absolute joke of a club though to be fair love to know your rationale for that remark? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poland_exile Posted January 20, 2018 Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 personally think we're more similar to Cardiff than people care to think: both teams can pull great home and away support at times, and both sides have a section of support that vanishes at others. There's plenty of other similarities as well when you use history as the marker. Any idea of superiority (either coming from us or from them for that matter) is a little misguided. Don't get me wrong, I bloody hate Cardiff, but always respected them. As a rival and a club I've certainly got more time for them than the tinpot gas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted January 20, 2018 Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 31 minutes ago, Keyardiv said: You're 12th and we're 13th in the attendance table. Similar mid-size clubs really. Our attendances have dropped a lot in the last couple of seasons, but in our previous 5 seasons in The Championship we had an average higher than yours so far this season, which is your highest for nearly 40 years. Nothing to get excited about, there are far bigger clubs in The Championship than both of us. Think the issue is more with the describing of Cardiff as a MASSIVE CLUB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarman Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 http://european-football-statistics.co.uk/attnclub/bric.htm http://european-football-statistics.co.uk/attnclub/carc.htm Not much in it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 25 minutes ago, Jarman said: http://european-football-statistics.co.uk/attnclub/bric.htm http://european-football-statistics.co.uk/attnclub/carc.htm Not much in it? An 11,000 drop in attendance in 2 seasons. Wonder where all the day trippers went? To the Liberty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Sergio Georgini said: An 11,000 drop in attendance in 2 seasons. Wonder where all the day trippers went? To the Liberty? Hope that never happens to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 1 minute ago, ZiderEyed said: Hope that never happens to us. Can't speak for the Baadiff fans but I think a lot were disillusioned with the re-branding and Tan as their owner, hence why they all magically turned into blue (or red) seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 34 minutes ago, Jarman said: http://european-football-statistics.co.uk/attnclub/bric.htm http://european-football-statistics.co.uk/attnclub/carc.htm Not much in it? So they spent almost 25 years in a row in the not too distant past unable to post an average above 10,000. Sound like the Gas to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 There are 4 to 5 massive clubs in the world, Real, Barca, Man U, Bayern M, possibly A Milan. The rest are big clubs down to Minnows like the sags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poland_exile Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 6 hours ago, ZiderEyed said: Hope that never happens to us. It already has! Check the stats from the 80s that @Jarman posted. We went from 19,000 average to 5,000 in three seasons - uncomfortable reading http://european-football-statistics.co.uk/attnclub/bric.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 9 hours ago, poland_exile said: personally think we're more similar to Cardiff than people care to think: both teams can pull great home and away support at times, and both sides have a section of support that vanishes at others. There's plenty of other similarities as well when you use history as the marker. Any idea of superiority (either coming from us or from them for that matter) is a little misguided. Don't get me wrong, I bloody hate Cardiff, but always respected them. As a rival and a club I've certainly got more time for them than the tinpot gas. I have absolutely no respect for them at all. Lapped up the rebrand with open arms and only objected in meaningful numbers when the dreamed turned sour. Shameful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeneys Penalties Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 5 hours ago, Malago said: There are 4 to 5 massive clubs in the world, Real, Barca, Man U, Bayern M, possibly A Milan. The rest are big clubs down to Minnows like the sags. Looks like a list of massive clubs in Europe to me, and I'd probably want to add Juve to that list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 10 hours ago, Keyardiv said: You're 12th and we're 13th in the attendance table. Similar mid-size clubs really. Our attendances have dropped a lot in the last couple of seasons, but in our previous 5 seasons in The Championship we had an average higher than yours so far this season, which is your highest for nearly 40 years. Nothing to get excited about, there are far bigger clubs in The Championship than both of us. The difference is we’ve been competing at the bottom end of the Championship during that time; you’ve largely been near the top. Now we’re directly comparable. In our last 10 games, we’ve surpassed 20k eight times. You’ve managed it just once. And your figures are skewed by the Leeds game, where you could bring friends for a fiver. Not to mention that fact that you’re a one-club City - so really you attendances should be rivalling City and Rovers combined (around 30k) - but they’re nowhere near. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 Cardiff can get a bigger crowd than us when things are going well - the history and stats show this; they can also get a smaller crowd than us when things are not going well - as their history and stats also reveal. I'd rather be us than them on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 1 hour ago, poland_exile said: It already has! Check the stats from the 80s that @Jarman posted. We went from 19,000 average to 5,000 in three seasons - uncomfortable reading http://european-football-statistics.co.uk/attnclub/bric.htm Everton went from 49k in the early 70s to 19k in 1984. Chelsea as low as 12k in 1983. Newcastle 16k in 1981. The list goes on. Football was being deserted across the nation in the 1980s. And Cardiff City was being deserted more than most, check their stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 41 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said: The difference is we’ve been competing at the bottom end of the Championship during that time; you’ve largely been near the top. Now we’re directly comparable. In our last 10 games, we’ve surpassed 20k eight times. You’ve managed it just once. And your figures are skewed by the Leeds game, where you could bring friends for a fiver. Not to mention that fact that you’re a one-club City - so really you attendances should be rivalling City and Rovers combined (around 30k) - but they’re nowhere near. There`s more to it than that too - they`re a two club country as well. Anyone living in South Wales ought to support them or Swansea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Red Right Hand said: There`s more to it than that too - they`re a two club country as well. Anyone living in South Wales ought to support them or Swansea. Harsh on Wrexham! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 1 hour ago, poland_exile said: It already has! Check the stats from the 80s that @Jarman posted. We went from 19,000 average to 5,000 in three seasons - uncomfortable reading http://european-football-statistics.co.uk/attnclub/bric.htm In our defence though attendances for every club in the 80s were at an all time low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 1 hour ago, ChippenhamRed said: Not to mention that fact that you’re a one-club City - so really you attendances should be rivalling City and Rovers combined (around 30k) - but they’re nowhere near. This for me is the crucial point. If Rovers wernt around (what a perfect world that would be?) straight away your adding another 5/6 k on our average, probably more as we know the sags on there day can pull out 9/10 k home gates if doing well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 Cardiff are just a welsh swindon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poland_exile Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 2 hours ago, ChippenhamRed said: I have absolutely no respect for them at all. Lapped up the rebrand with open arms and only objected in meaningful numbers when the dreamed turned sour. Shameful. I'm not sure how many did lap up the re-brand. I was under the impression they lost a lot of their traditional core support because of this but those they lost were replaced with newbie 'customers'. Might be totally wrong, but that's what I've been led to believe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 13 hours ago, Keyardiv said: You're 12th and we're 13th in the attendance table. Similar mid-size clubs really. Our attendances have dropped a lot in the last couple of seasons, but in our previous 5 seasons in The Championship we had an average higher than yours so far this season, which is your highest for nearly 40 years. Nothing to get excited about, there are far bigger clubs in The Championship than both of us. Yeah but nobody is sayiing we are a massive club . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS13 Robin Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 To be fair the only thing massive about Cardiff is Lee Tomlin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poland_exile Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Sergio Georgini said: In our defence though attendances for every club in the 80s were at an all time low. I can't dispute that, but then look at the 90s as well - christ, there was one season in the mid-90s when we just about managed an average of 7,000. We should know better than willy wave over attendances, especially as this thread comes just a cpl of days after we're all moaning how few we took to Derby! Don't get me wrong, this isn't meant as a criticism of our own fan base - I'm immensely proud to be city and think we've got a brilliant set of followers. but I'm also greatly appreciative of having the severnside derby; though it's been diluted thanks to the efforts of the police and the effects of modern football in general, this is an almost unique cross-country derby that you can really get your teeth in. But I think it takes two to tango - if we weren't so similar then I think it wouldn't have the same importance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 2 hours ago, poland_exile said: I'm not sure how many did lap up the re-brand. I was under the impression they lost a lot of their traditional core support because of this but those they lost were replaced with newbie 'customers'. Might be totally wrong, but that's what I've been led to believe! You’ll struggle to convince me that they were suddenly able to fill a 30k stadium with newbie fans and that none of the supporters seen here were coming before the rebrand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said: You’ll struggle to convince me that they were suddenly able to fill a 30k stadium with newbie fans and that none of the supporters seen here were coming before the rebrand. Hahah brilliant. Stupid welsh ***** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 Don’t sky think every club that has been in the premier league are/is massive? (Alternative above for grammer police!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 4 hours ago, Sweeneys Penalties said: Looks like a list of massive clubs in Europe to me, and I'd probably want to add Juve to that list Indeed. Im sure I read somewhere that Flemengo have more 30 million supporters in Brazil. Boca Juniors and River Plate would also be up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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