Red-Robbo Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 My view is that he's the defence's weakest link, but he will improve. He can do some wonderful stuff, but just gets caught out with moments of brain dead naivety on occasions. As Johnson quite correctly pointed out his mistake didn't "cost us the goal". A long line of other mistakes led us to be in the position where he dropped a b***ock. He has a wonderful attitude and seems a lot more confident on the ball, but he just needs to improve, to learn, to play safe. I'm happy with him staying at our club providing he isn't a first choice starter for the rest of this season. We've seen how other players who seemed weak last season (Brownhill comes to mind) have stepped up a gear the longer they are here. Equally, if he was sold, I wouldn't be devastated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 11 hours ago, pillred said: obviously not a die hard city fan like me, and as for being an idiot retiring at 59 and being financially secure for life enjoy your day at work tomorrow. I love it when the babyboomer generation - riding the crest of the house price boom, rattling around in homes far bigger than they need while claiming their winter fuel allowance, counting the money from the triple-locked final salary pensions, able to raise families on single incomes - sneer at their children's generation, who both have to work to raise families in modest properties with massive mortgages and pay for said pensions. SO FUNNY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRock Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 9 minutes ago, Calculus said: A bad mistake by Mags last night to be sure. Let's hope he can learn from that and kick on because if he can be a solid left back then that would allow Joe to play up the pitch. Added to that there's the long throws. Surely Mags is worth persevering with. I like the way we play out of the back, but sometimes you just need to put laces through it, as Kyle Walker demonstrated last night. A lesson to be learned IMO. Btw, whilst Pack is taking that well deserved bow just remember that he did something very similar against Wolves. Very true. He (and others) should have learned from that very recent, near identical, example. Lets hope Maggers now provides some man of the match performances to compensate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 2 hours ago, Red-Robbo said: My view is that he's the defence's weakest link, but he will improve. He can do some wonderful stuff, but just gets caught out with moments of brain dead naivety on occasions. As Johnson quite correctly pointed out his mistake didn't "cost us the goal". A long line of other mistakes led us to be in the position where he dropped a b***ock. He has a wonderful attitude and seems a lot more confident on the ball, but he just needs to improve, to learn, to play safe. I'm happy with him staying at our club providing he isn't a first choice starter for the rest of this season. We've seen how other players who seemed weak last season (Brownhill comes to mind) have stepped up a gear the longer they are here. Equally, if he was sold, I wouldn't be devastated. Agree Robbo. However, Maggs wants to play, as he has Russia to think about in the summer. Difficult one, this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, The Gasbuster said: Agree Robbo. However, Maggs wants to play, as he has Russia to think about in the summer. Difficult one, this. He will start for Iceland regardless of if he starts games for us or not. They don't exactly to have a huge pool of players to choose from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red7 Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 6 hours ago, Major Isewater said: He could watch Bakes a bit closer . As long as he doesn't watch Baker's positioning when Aguero scored their second. Thought he got it all wrong there, although he has been an immense player for us all season. But these mistakes will happen when you're playing against class. Admittedly, Maggers has made a few mistakes now. But I hope he turns it round because he's one of those players who you feel really wants to do well for the club, and I genuinely believe he has the ability to be a real success with us. Seems to be a bit lacking in physical presence though, despite his size and build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 15 hours ago, BigTone said: But Brownhill, Pack, Smith & Bryan already play different roles in the team if you hadn't noticed. As for Hegeler (despite injuries) he has hardly set the world on fire. I don't deny that but would I trust Maggers to be the last man in the midfield, going on his current decision making, not at all. I would take Korey over Maggs all day long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 How many critical errors leading to goals this season has Hörður Magnússon made in league games. Is it? One every week. More than Aden Flint. Less than Aden Flint. Less than Bailey Wright. The same as Aden Flint x appearances. The answer may be he is not the liability people think he is, in the same manner Joe Bryan is no conference player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 9 hours ago, SX227 said: Oh well - at least we know who has won "scapegoat of the month award on OTIB" for January. Yes - terrible mistake. No doubt about it. I would respectfully ask - did all those calling for him to be transferred not notice literally 10 minutes earlier when he sprinted from LB to stop a Man C attack on the right when Korey was left 3 on 1? If you didn't please look again. Yes, he has made some mistakes - tonight's was awful - 100% agree BUT - I defy anyone to genuinely not concede that Mags has improved out of sight this season. He is still young, still learning and WILL eventually stop these errors. Genuine critical posts are respected, but some posters going on about his looks and haircut....seriously guys, give it a rest. He will play plenty more games at LB this season - LJ has belief in his ability. It was awesome hearing the Maggs song being sung at the start of the 2nd half - I would imagine that helped the lad. Also saw Gus sit next to him and put his head on his shoulder and lean in - Mags looked utterly distraught. That kind of love for your club, feeling terrible after you know what you have done is the 'DNA' worth bottling. Mags will play a lot more for us, and just like AF, will turn out to be a tremendous player. Only on OTIB can we ask for a guy to be sacked after 40 games and being 24 yrs old. I also agree he may be useful further forward at times, with 2 goals for Iceland in 15 caps. When Mags is in Russia at the World Cup it will be interesting to see how many of you don't say proudly that he plays for Bristol City.......... This is not the night for finger pointing. We played a full strength Man City team, who really should have scored 4 or 5. Mags mistake did not cost us the game. It should not cost him his City career. Great response, well thought through and articulated. 6 hours ago, shelts said: I think we’ve seen enough to know that he won’t improve . To be fair he is only playing because LJ is forced into it and doesn’t trust or rate the youngsters yet How good was Flint at 24, almost 25, whilst playing in a lower division against worse players, playing alongside the stellar team in that division. At 28, has he improved from when he was Magnússon’s age. Yes. Of course he’s only playing because LJ is forced into it. You can’t have 18 first choice players in an 11-Man team! He’s not first choice, so what, he’s still given us decent cover whilst we’ve had injuries, to allow Joe to play LM. 3 hours ago, ExiledAjax said: Our absolute first choice back four is surely Pisano - Flint - Baker - Bryan Wright is captain because Flint doesn't want to be captain. I'm sure Smith or Baker would be more than capable of taking the armband. I can't remember who deputised when Wright was suspended. That’s quite telling. Said it earlier in thread that Flint play’s his own game predominantly , Baker does the organising, sets the lines etc. So when Baker isn’t there, should Flint (or Wright - as our skipper) take more ownership of guiding the less experienced man (Mags) through? I think so, but I don’t see the signs of a partnership / shared responsibility. Now don’t get me wrong, I'm happy that when Baker plays, Flint concentrates on his own game, but when Baker doesn’t play, Flint should do more to help his inexperienced partner. Flint has had a very, very good season...long may it continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 Good captaincy from Bailey Wright after Mags mistake, as they were going back into position, Wright walked alongside him, may have spoken to him but certainly made body contact with Hörður, I assume along the lines of come on and put it behind you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 In the first half, our players were practically queing up to be the one to give 'em their first. Really felt for Hörður last night. Wasn't clever play by any stretch but it happens. I like the man and the player tbh. I support the guy all day long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 19 hours ago, Maltshoveller said: OTIB need a scapegoat True, but he put himself in the frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 19 hours ago, ExiledAjax said: He’s a delicious meal...with a hair in it. Great for 95% of the time...but a major error in every match. Can't knock his consistency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 16 hours ago, Sandhurst Red said: Said it after then Fulham away gam me on here and got salvaged for it. In my 25 years of following City, I’ve never looked at a team sheet for a specific player and gone ‘oh no’ until Mags. Liability and had too many chances. Time to move on. Some players you can train and develop, what he did tonight he was taught probably aged 8! A few years ago I was saying ‘oh no’ quite often.. McGivern... Foster... Fontaine... Nyatanga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: So when Baker isn’t there, should Flint (or Wright - as our skipper) take more ownership of guiding the less experienced man (Mags) through? No doubt they all need to do this. However, just to counter that slightly - from what I have seen Flint does lead. He does look after the junior players and he is, in all respects other than having an armband on, a captain. In particular I remember that at QPR and Watford Flint was constantly talking to Lloyd Kelly, constantly telling him where to go and letting him know when he wasn't happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 Interesting reactions on here . Some very good points and some extremely long posts .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 1 minute ago, ExiledAjax said: No doubt they all need to do this. However, just to counter that slightly - from what I have seen Flint does lead. He does look after the junior players and he is, in all respects other than having an armband on, a captain. In particular I remember that at QPR and Watford Flint was constantly talking to Lloyd Kelly, constantly telling him where to go and letting him know when he wasn't happy. That’s fair comment. I see him giving the fists clenched / c’mon lads stuff, but haven’t particularly noted that side. I shall look for this in future. Ta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 Just watching the highlights and my blame for Maggers has diminished . I actually think the rugby lines were so pronounced that he lost his bearings and thought the ball had gone over the line for a split second . ! Need to sort that asap . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 Haha what a load of tosh. He tried to be clever. Watch it again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmersonsRed Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 Could I borrow one of those straws you are clutching at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 I'm really hoping this is just a **** attempt at a whoosh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 Tried to be clever and got caught. These things happen and we all move on. Getting 3 points on Saturday is all that matters now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 He kinda makes a habit of it though, dont you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryans Left Peg Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 This has been done to death now, on three different threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megansdad Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 watch again and you will see several failures to clear the ball before Hörður became involved. A series of mistakes rather than just his and his alone. He's been a valuable member of the squad this season, as a season which has been beyond the dreams of us so far - he like the rest of the squad deserves backing rather than being singled out for criticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSMRobin Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 He's done it on at least 3 occasions though, cardiff, derby and man city and 2 of those have cost goals. Everyone makes mistakes but the trouble is that he doesn't seem to be learning from his Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimme Shelton Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 Totally agree its a conscious decision he keeps making so stop doing it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 5 hours ago, RedLionLad said: Tried to be clever and got caught. These things happen and we all move on. Getting 3 points on Saturday is all that matters now. At first I thought why the he'll didn't he boot it into row z. But considering the way we play wouldn't part of the reason of keeping it in play be so we can play out from the back and launch a quick counter etc? Had he not messed up and provided a ball that led to a goal no one would be moaning about him not booting it into row z. Just trying to add a bit of balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSMRobin Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 11 minutes ago, Up The City! said: At first I thought why the he'll didn't he boot it into row z. But considering the way we play wouldn't part of the reason of keeping it in play be so we can play out from the back and launch a quick counter etc? Had he not messed up and provided a ball that led to a goal no one would be moaning about him not booting it into row z. Just trying to add a bit of balance. The fact that LJ hauled him off so soon after the error would suggest he too is frustrated by this constant fault with HM`s game and is not part of his footballing philosophy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meh Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 14 minutes ago, Up The City! said: At first I thought why the he'll didn't he boot it into row z. But considering the way we play wouldn't part of the reason of keeping it in play be so we can play out from the back and launch a quick counter etc? Had he not messed up and provided a ball that led to a goal no one would be moaning about him not booting it into row z. Just trying to add a bit of balance. I have not criticised him and won’t but that is some big IF there. He is a defender - get rid - it was a misjudgment of pace and then that error was magnified by not being strong enough to block the defenders efforts to retrieve the ball before it did roll slowly over the line.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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