Londoner Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 Now I'm not creating a scapegoat here but basing this on the whole season. The guy is clearly an effective target man but with the ball at his feet he is absolutely useless. His touch is dire, his passing is dire, and for a 5 million player I expect more from him. I know he is coming back from injury, and I know he does get goals and causes problems....but I can't help but think he is a steeotypical "donkey"...phusical strong good in the are....but not a lot else.... Get him on the training pitch and get him improving his touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman85 Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 Just now, Londoner said: Now I'm not creating a scapegoat here but basing this on the whole season. The guy is clearly an effective target man but with the ball at his feet he is absolutely useless. His touch is dire, his passing is dire, and for a 5 million player I expect more from him. I know he is coming back from injury, and I know he does get goals and causes problems....but I can't help but think he is a steeotypical "donkey"...phusical strong good in the are....but not a lot else.... Get him on the training pitch and get him improving his touch. I don't see it in him. I see a scrappy player who sometimes causes more issues than helping us. Need a fit Djuric. Much more effective for tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 Bet you didn’t post this last week. Tonight was his second start since October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 He had a few poor touches - but he was involved in some good intricate play too. He can and does link up but ultimately that's not what we bought him for, it's for his goals and physical presence to feed off, on that scale he is delivering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 Think tonight as well as Saturday summed him up. On his day a real handful, when not on his game he might as well not be anywhere near the pitch. Unfortunately I think he is a 1 in 5 game player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 His main problem is that he is simply too slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman85 Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said: His main problem is that he is simply too slow. He just never looks a threat. Not to me anyway. Oh for a Kodjia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh93 Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 He was taken off about 25/30 mins too late tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 7 minutes ago, Londoner said: Now I'm not creating a scapegoat here but basing this on the whole season. The guy is clearly an effective target man but with the ball at his feet he is absolutely useless. His touch is dire, his passing is dire, and for a 5 million player I expect more from him. I know he is coming back from injury, and I know he does get goals and causes problems....but I can't help but think he is a steeotypical "donkey"...phusical strong good in the are....but not a lot else.... Get him on the training pitch and get him improving his touch. I will get slated here but I think he is a terrible player. Have done from day one. He really is terrible. Slow, clumsy and one of the worst touches ive seen from a professional. Being 'strong' is not enough... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REBS14 Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 Ball to feet he looks lost, i preferred the team playing intricate passes between the front players, with diedhiuo we play far too many long balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bainsey Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 Looked like a very poor version of Lukaku tonight. Really needs to improve his first touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Grande Homme Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, Josh93 said: He was taken off about 25/30 mins too late tonight Totally agree, what is the point in bringing Engvall on with 4 mins to go. I dont know if Engvall is good enough but he has never been given a real chance, at least 20 mins would have given us an opportunity to see what hes got Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windmillhillred Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 The absolute state of this thread. He was poor(ish) tonight. Never going to be the best with the ball at his feet but he offers this team so much. Works hard, tracks back, scores goals, brings Reid into the game more. But because he has a poor game in his second start in three months against a well organised defence he is "terrible', 'dire' and 'useless.' What an absolute joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossi the Robin Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 Touch comes with fitness! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londoner Posted February 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, windmillhillred said: The absolute state of this thread. He was poor(ish) tonight. Never going to be the best with the ball at his feet but he offers this team so much. Works hard, tracks back, scores goals, brings Reid into the game more. But because he has a poor game in his second start in three months against a well organised defence he is "terrible', 'dire' and 'useless.' What an absolute joke. Sorry but his touch has been dire all season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 The ball does just seem to bounce off him, when its played into his feet you can never really guarantee what kind of touch your going to get which is disappointing for somebody that cost over 5 million.. i am a fan overall though ,he offers the team a lot and can clearly score goals at this level as we have seen when he is given a run of games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT The Optimist Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 16 minutes ago, Andy082005 said: I will get slated here but I think he is a terrible player. Have done from day one. He really is terrible. Slow, clumsy and one of the worst touches ive seen from a professional. Being 'strong' is not enough... I do not think he is a terrible player, that is a tad strong. But he needs the right sort of service for his strengths. I recall before he was injured speaking about his 'touch' and general hold up play. No, its not that good, but at his age no way you can coach and improve that ! a 5 Million striker getting him to improve his touch. Good touch, look at Ameobi tonight ! ( and he was a free transfer ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 FFS He had a great game last week and almost scored tonight with a header that was handled btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londoner Posted February 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, Alex_BCFC said: FFS He had a great game last week and almost scored tonight with a header that was handled btw. Handled yes but the ball was going straight down the keepers throat... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 Give him a break he’s barely played since October. He’s not particularly graceful and I believe that gives exaggerates the impression he has a poor touch. I felt their defence managed him pretty well. Still nowhere near match fit so obviously needs time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 7 minutes ago, Londoner said: Sorry but his touch has been dire all season Dire header against QPR yeah Before you say it, a header is a touch. He's getting back, lay off FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldlandReddies Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 Jesus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 Poorish game tonight, as did many of our players. Doesn’t make him a bad player. Sometimes the Adrenalin of returning from injury catches up with you a few games later. LJ needs to think about how we cope against a back 3 and wing backs. Very few channels to run against that, whereas against 2 CBs we can get down the sides. It didn’t help the Diedhiou Reid pairing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watkins1983 Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 Poor tonight. Brilliant last week against QPR with that header. Just the way it goes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungRed Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 23 minutes ago, windmillhillred said: The absolute state of this thread. He was poor(ish) tonight. Never going to be the best with the ball at his feet but he offers this team so much. Works hard, tracks back, scores goals, brings Reid into the game more. But because he has a poor game in his second start in three months against a well organised defence he is "terrible', 'dire' and 'useless.' What an absolute joke. Couldn't agree more this thread is an embarrassment. His hold up play is nearly always effective and everyone is going on like he gives the ball away all the time which is defineitely not the case. Narrow minded fans really do infuriate me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT The Optimist Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 7 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Poorish game tonight, as did many of our players. Doesn’t make him a bad player. Sometimes the Adrenalin of returning from injury catches up with you a few games later. LJ needs to think about how we cope against a back 3 and wing backs. Very few channels to run against that, whereas against 2 CBs we can get down the sides. It didn’t help the Diedhiou Reid pairing. Correct, he's not a bad player, I would say a run of the mill championship forward. He has strong points, and weaker points. I mentioned earlier that on 'tonights' game Ameobi was streets ahead of him for touch movement , and I see LJ has just come out and stated that. (stated best player on the park) I sometimes cannot get my head around the fees that we pay, when you consider Ameobi was a 'free'. But, that was on what we saw tonight. Then we open another box if we ask about DIONY.. Would like to see him play some games to make a judgement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 We’ll all have varying views on our players. The Ameobi we saw tonight, had its frustrating moments too if you’re a Bolton fan. He’d had a lean spell up until tonight. Capable of exciting stuff, capable of missing from a yard for Cardiff! Somewhere else, someone likened him to JET. Diony looks quick and strong, but we need to see him more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 Bollocks, absolute bollocks. More than good enough, had a bad game, but yeah lets dig him out and say he's shit. Vintage OTIB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Andy082005 said: I will get slated here but I think he is a terrible player. Have done from day one. He really is terrible. Slow, clumsy and one of the worst touches ive seen from a professional. Being 'strong' is not enough... Terrible player? Jesus wept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted February 2, 2018 Report Share Posted February 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said: Bollocks, absolute bollocks. More than good enough, had a bad game, but yeah lets dig him out and say he's shit. Vintage OTIB. Seems particularly poisonous on here tonight, anyone would think we were on a 10 game losing streak and 23rd in the league. We lost against a team fighting for their lives who made it difficult for us, none of our players played that well - it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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