Beni71 Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 Without a doubt one of my favourite players to watch when on song. Has great close control and makes us tick as a team. Like a few wasn’t at his best on Friday. His first touch, unusually, has been wanting in the last couple of games and slightly off form. He’s a player I would always have in my starting XI. I like him as a number 10 and don’t believe he’s as effective wide as doesn’t have the blistering pace. With Kent /Diony arriving and famara returning from injury we have more resources in the offensive positions. If we are to make the playoffs I think we need Paterson on the pitch where he can influence the game. Not sure we see him at his best in 442. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 He’s much more influential in the middle of the park, no doubt about that. Crying out for O’Dowda to come back to have Callum and Kent either side, leaving either Pato or Fam to accommodate Bobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostScotsman Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 As someone relatively new to Bristol City, he comes across as a weak link. He may be a fan favourite / a good servant to the cub but he constantly loses possession in the middle of the park (either through sloppy passes or running into trouble) and is frequently out f position when it comes to defending the counter attack. See Bolton goal & De Bruyne goal in the 1st leg of the Carabou as evidence of this, though it sould be pointed out it happens pretty much every game. Again, I've missed out on what makes him a fan favourite but from my perspective a solid holding mid should have been bought in Jan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostScotsman Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 Just to add - moved to Bristol last summer, bought a season ticket & have been to 3 away games so far (incl. up-coming Cardiff game). So, after spending £500+ to watch you lot this season, I want nothing more than for you to do well. Just posting my observations as a new fan won over by your style of play & buzz around the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanker Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 He was terrible on Friday, kept giving the ball away and was rightly taken off. A bit like Tomlin, a liability if he’s not on song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, swanker said: He was terrible on Friday, kept giving the ball away and was rightly taken off. A bit like Tomlin, a liability if he’s not on song. Not saying he’s wasnt off form on Friday, but most commentary about him on here all season was even if he want playing well, he still had great workrate....which is the opposite of aTomlin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 He starts for me too, but wide. Our best play since I’ve been following City has come in 4-4-2 so I’m not too keen on changing it. Just ensure the wide players (Pato and COD when squad fully fit) know they have some freedom to drift inside and switch wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 He's been off form for some time, I would have rested him 2 games ago. His control has been poor, and he has given the ball away a lot. Earlier in the season he was as important and influential as anyone in the team but with others misfiring we can't afford to carry passengers. He will no doubt back , but for now I would drop him. For me , his best position is in behind the forwards as he can go either way. I think he's a little wasted wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: He's been of form for some time, I would have rested him 2 games ago. His control has been poor, and he has given the ball away a lot. Earlier in the season he was as important and influential as anyone in the team but with others misfiring we can't afford to carry passengers. He will no doubt back , but for now I would drop him. For me , his best position is in behind the forwards as he can go either way. I think he's a little wasted wide. Totally agree. He needs to play a floating role behind the first line - popping up all over the place and making a nuisance of himself. A winger he categorically isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire Red Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 55 minutes ago, LostScotsman said: As someone relatively new to Bristol City, he comes across as a weak link. He may be a fan favourite / a good servant to the cub but he constantly loses possession in the middle of the park (either through sloppy passes or running into trouble) and is frequently out f position when it comes to defending the counter attack. See Bolton goal & De Bruyne goal in the 1st leg of the Carabou as evidence of this, though it sould be pointed out it happens pretty much every game. Again, I've missed out on what makes him a fan favourite but from my perspective a solid holding mid should have been bought in Jan. Are you talking about Marlon pack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostScotsman Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, city2015 said: Are you talking about Marlon pack? Nope - #20 Pack makes similar mistakes in the centre also, though not as often. Plus he often puts in solid challenges to win it back. I'm not looking to crap of Paterson but CM is a glaring issue in your team & is costing you hefty in big games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire Red Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, LostScotsman said: Nope - #20 Pack makes similar mistakes in the centre also, though not as often. Plus he often puts in solid challenges to win it back. I'm not looking to crap of Paterson but CM is a glaring issue in your team & is costing you hefty in big games. Has Paterson not been playing out wide or behind the striker this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatalist Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 I've felt for ages that we need a play-maker in central midfield. Time and time again the ball comes to our midfield and then back to the defenders without anyone trying to turn quickly and go forward. We are too static, we need someone with an eye for a quick pass, to co-incide with someone moving into space. With other options up front, how about Bobby Reid having a go in midfield? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon79 Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 It’s funny how results influence people’s opinions. Because Paterson has often given the ball away throughout the season, but that is because he will try things that other players don’t or do not see. He is brave on the ball & backs his ability. It’s just that when we are losing this is highlighted ten fold. He was poor Friday as were most, personally didn’t think the intensity was there. Would also definitely agree that he has to have the licence to be more central to affect the game. COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Beni71 said: Without a doubt one of my favourite players to watch when on song. Has great close control and makes us tick as a team. Like a few wasn’t at his best on Friday. His first touch, unusually, has been wanting in the last couple of games and slightly off form. He’s a player I would always have in my starting XI. I like him as a number 10 and don’t believe he’s as effective wide as doesn’t have the blistering pace. With Kent /Diony arriving and famara returning from injury we have more resources in the offensive positions. If we are to make the playoffs I think we need Paterson on the pitch where he can influence the game. Not sure we see him at his best in 442. Agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanker Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: Not saying he’s wasnt off form on Friday, but most commentary about him on here all season was even if he want playing well, he still had great workrate....which is the opposite of aTomlin. I rather have Paterson than the Tomlin of last season. on Friday though he was bad and has been poor for a few games now. I watched his performance against Bolton carefully and it must have been frustrating for the player around him. He was lightweight and gave the ball away all to often. He’s a good player but needs to put a shift in because if we’re going to make the playoffs we can afford to carry people. Man Utd and Man City are gone now and it’s Sunderland at home Saturday, we need 3 points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garland-sweden Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 Paterson is a good player but I think a rest one or two games will do him good. He works very hard and at the moment he dont get assists or goals. We have options in midfield. Would like to see Eliasson put the ball in the box for Famara. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Beni71 said: Without a doubt one of my favourite players to watch when on song. Has great close control and makes us tick as a team. Like a few wasn’t at his best on Friday. His first touch, unusually, has been wanting in the last couple of games and slightly off form. He’s a player I would always have in my starting XI. I like him as a number 10 and don’t believe he’s as effective wide as doesn’t have the blistering pace. With Kent /Diony arriving and famara returning from injury we have more resources in the offensive positions. If we are to make the playoffs I think we need Paterson on the pitch where he can influence the game. Not sure we see him at his best in 442. I thought that one of the reasons he left Forest was because they had played him out on the wing and he didn't get on the ball enough. I agree when Pato is on form he is top class but for me he is still too inconsistent with his performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 33 minutes ago, swanker said: I rather have Paterson than the Tomlin of last season. on Friday though he was bad and has been poor for a few games now. I watched his performance against Bolton carefully and it must have been frustrating for the player around him. He was lightweight and gave the ball away all to often. He’s a good player but needs to put a shift in because if we’re going to make the playoffs we can afford to carry people. Man Utd and Man City are gone now and it’s Sunderland at home Saturday, we need 3 points Yeah, it wasn’t the usual energetic performance that we see even when the skills don’t come off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42nite Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 2 hours ago, LostScotsman said: Just to add - moved to Bristol last summer, bought a season ticket & have been to 3 away games so far (incl. up-coming Cardiff game). So, after spending £500+ to watch you lot this season, I want nothing more than for you to do well. Just posting my observations as a new fan won over by your style of play & buzz around the club. Why would you choose us over the multi-billionaires north of the river with the most loved fans in the country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostScotsman Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 51 minutes ago, 42nite said: Why would you choose us over the multi-billionaires north of the river with the most loved fans in the country? Funny story - tried to go to Rovers vs. Oxford. Was turned away as they didn't sell tickets on the day. Went and bought a few tickets then a season for Ashton Gate instead... Haven't looked back since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Fatalist said: I've felt for ages that we need a play-maker in central midfield. Time and time again the ball comes to our midfield and then back to the defenders without anyone trying to turn quickly and go forward. We are too static, we need someone with an eye for a quick pass, to co-incide with someone moving into space. With other options up front, how about Bobby Reid having a go in midfield? I will take your post as a genuine suggestion. Young Bobby played there quite a few times for quite a few season - with very mixed results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 Sometimes when a players form drops off, it's time to give him a rest. He may think he is undroppable and become complacent, sometimes he simply needs a rest, though in Patto's case, he was injured a while back (hamstring?) and those things can niggle for months after, so that may not be helping him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 3 hours ago, LostScotsman said: As someone relatively new to Bristol City, he comes across as a weak link. He may be a fan favourite / a good servant to the cub but he constantly loses possession in the middle of the park (either through sloppy passes or running into trouble) and is frequently out f position when it comes to defending the counter attack. See Bolton goal & De Bruyne goal in the 1st leg of the Carabou as evidence of this, though it sould be pointed out it happens pretty much every game. Again, I've missed out on what makes him a fan favourite but from my perspective a solid holding mid should have been bought in Jan. I disagree, i feel He has been pretty key to the success we have had this season and has been involved in the majority of our good stuff. Nottingham Forest fans will say he blew hot and cold there but so far he has been fairly consistent in a City shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42nite Posted February 4, 2018 Report Share Posted February 4, 2018 57 minutes ago, LostScotsman said: Funny story - tried to go to Rovers vs. Oxford. Was turned away as they didn't sell tickets on the day. Went and bought a few tickets then a season for Ashton Gate instead... Haven't looked back since. Lucky escape that...you wouldn't want to support Oxford! Welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 9 hours ago, LostScotsman said: Just to add - moved to Bristol last summer, bought a season ticket & have been to 3 away games so far (incl. up-coming Cardiff game). So, after spending £500+ to watch you lot this season, I want nothing more than for you to do well. Just posting my observations as a new fan won over by your style of play & buzz around the club. seems you went from zero to hero in two posts!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UREDS_91 Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 11 hours ago, pillred said: seems you went from zero to hero in two posts!! It would seem the reverse of what has happened to Pato in 2 games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 I can see why Forest got shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 On 04/02/2018 at 17:43, swanker said: I rather have Paterson than the Tomlin of last season. on Friday though he was bad and has been poor for a few games now. I watched his performance against Bolton carefully and it must have been frustrating for the player around him. He was lightweight and gave the ball away all to often. He’s a good player but needs to put a shift in because if we’re going to make the playoffs we can afford to carry people. Man Utd and Man City are gone now and it’s Sunderland at home Saturday, we need 3 points I said similar earlier, it even looked at one stage (I think it was Vs Norwich ) that he was hiding a little. His control , passing, everything just seemed a little off. There should be other players chomping at the bit to get in now, time to rotate and use the squad I think. I'm sure he'll be back and running the show again soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted February 5, 2018 Report Share Posted February 5, 2018 13 minutes ago, shelts said: I can see why Forest got shot Bollocks. Was arguably our biggest threat earlier in the season. Been in a bad patch of form. He's a real talent, and a bargain at the price we paid imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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