BRISTOL86 Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Andy082005 said: Ok...I will rephrase it "We are no way good enough to remain in the top 6" We are where we are on merit. Granted. However I said all the way back in December that there was no way we could maintain the level we were playing at. Evetunally teams would suss us out and we dont have the quality or squad depth to have a plan B The only team in that top 6 who I would say are on a par with us is Cardiff. The one major difference is they have manager who can tactically kill a game off. We have a manager and a group of players who are now performing like they believe in all the bullshit hype theyve had the last 2 months Todays result was genuinely incredible. There is no excuse I agree that there’s no excuse for todays result having been 3 up. I disagree strongly that we don’t have the talent to remain in the top six. Not saying we will but we absolutely have the ability to do so. Today was nothing to do with being sussed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 It was as poor today as it was good v QPR with 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 LJ had the balls to say he didn't get it right, so I'll accept that. Obviously don't want him getting it wrong too often, so let's take our frustration out at Leeds. Strange the effects a few Saturday night drinks can have... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nest Egg Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 4 hours ago, Major Isewater said: That St Etienne fan probably wouldn't recognise Christmas even if Santa Claus drove his frocking sleigh through the pillock's living room. Your posts are increasingly incoherent so I have no idea what you are trying to convey here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 Shouldve played the second half like a Warnock side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 40 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said: LJ had the balls to say he didn't get it right, so I'll accept that. Obviously don't want him getting it wrong too often, so let's take our frustration out at Leeds. Yep, fair play to LJ who continues to impress me with his honesty. How many managers come out and admit they made a tactical error? It's a very rare occurance for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WECANDO Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 5 hours ago, Dr Balls said: We really missed Bobby in the second half, and Coleman worked out that our left side with Bryan & Kent can't defend. It could have been worse but for Fielding's wonder save. We need to tighten up at the back. Our run of good results came with Magnússon & Bryan on the left. We need to go back to that ASAP! Wonder save but shite kicking yet again. If he can’t kick the ball accuratelty, kick the bloody thing down the bloody middle of the bloody pitch. So bloody frustrating to watch. Why is he so crap? Agreed about Magnússon and Bryan. Prefer Magnússon at the back and Bryan pushing forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Balls Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 But the problem is that there is little evidence so far of LJ learning. Going hung-ho for a win that we already had is just bonkers. And it's not the first time that it's happened. You could say the same thing happened against Wolves when they went down to 10 men & yet we left Flint upfront. With the run of games we have coming up, we need to be as solid as possible. That means putting Hörður back at left back, and getting Baker back for the Fulham game so that Bailey Wright can return to right back, rather than using a midfielder there. With that set-up, plus Bobby & Famara upfront, who seem to know how to play off each other, we remain extremely dangerous on the break, but the players need to know that goals for the team come above any individual achievements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, Dr Balls said: But the problem is that there is little evidence so far of LJ learning. Going hung-ho for a win that we already had is just bonkers. And it's not the first time that it's happened. It wasn't LJ who went hung-ho, it was some his players who at 3-0 up against a pretty poor side thought the game was won. What LJ did post match was to hold up his hands and say he should have made a different substitutions - managed the game differently in other words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, Robbored said: It wasn't LJ who went hung-ho, it was some his players who at 3-0 up against a pretty poor side thought the game was won. What LJ did post match was to hold up his hands and say he should have made a different substitutions - managed the game differently in other words. It was the little flicks are showboating that wound me up a bit, Kent and Bryan in particular I think it was. Just arrogant. Players should've known better and are equally as accountable as LJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, Robbored said: It wasn't LJ who went hung-ho, it was some his players who at 3-0 up against a pretty poor side thought the game was won. What LJ did post match was to hold up his hands and say he should have made a different substitutions - managed the game differently in other words. Yes. This is what happened. LJ holding his hands up, was pretty much an indictment of the players that were out there and how they played. This was a team cock up, not a managerial one. LJ took it on the chin for a team who were unprofessional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 10 hours ago, REDOXO said: Yes. This is what happened. LJ holding his hands up, was pretty much an indictment of the players that were out there and how they played. This was a team cock up, not a managerial one. LJ took it on the chin for a team who were unprofessional. Indeed. And, as others have said, perhaps the fact that he publicly took responsibility for it, instead of throwing individual players under the bus, is a sign that he is learning something at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bemmyredjeff Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 19 hours ago, BRISTOL86 said: Has he even been posting before the last couple of weeks? One of a number who seem to disappear when we’re doing well.... He has actually, but its not right is it when some come back with forceful and usually honest views to upset the clique on here !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bemmyredjeff Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 14 hours ago, Robbored said: Yep, fair play to LJ who continues to impress me with his honesty. How many managers come out and admit they made a tactical error? It's a very rare occurance for sure. Did he really have a choice ? It was obvious for all to see that he'd f****d up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windmillhillred Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 15 minutes ago, bemmyredjeff said: Did he really have a choice ? It was obvious for all to see that he'd f****d up. Yep. Last season I think he would have blamed the players.huge credit to him for taking it on the chin here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 Is this what the St. Etienne fan says? "Ce fan de St Etienne ne reconnaîtrait probablement pas Noël même si le Père Noël conduisait son traîneau dans le salon du pilori." Perhsps it was lost in translation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 2 hours ago, bemmyredjeff said: Did he really have a choice ? It was obvious for all to see that he'd f****d up. Of course he had a choice ffs........... He could have sent Macca or Deano out to face the media. He could have blamed his players, as some managers do.....but no, he accepted responsibility and well done to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 All slagging off our game management 3 nil up We should have seen the game out Go back and read the match day tread and 99% of the posts are saying lets go for it and get our goal difference up None are saying shut up shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Maltshoveller said: All slagging off our game management 3 nil up We should have seen the game out Go back and read the match day tread and 99% of the posts are saying lets go for it and get our goal difference up None are saying shut up shop At 3-0 up yes but when they scored they were all over us as they suddenly believed. It's at that moment that good game management pulls their sting . Shows them that their goal was a fluke and wears them down keeping possession and repelling their attacks . As I've already posted we were chasing a game that was already won . It was naive in the extreme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne allisons tongues Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 I honestly think Marlon Pack needs to be booked. Been on 9 since Boxing Day and doesn’t seem to get stuck in so much. Has his role changed in the team because of this and is this affecting how we play now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 5 hours ago, Maltshoveller said: All slagging off our game management 3 nil up We should have seen the game out Go back and read the match day tread and 99% of the posts are saying lets go for it and get our goal difference up None are saying shut up shop Shut up shop and counter judiciously would be quite different. I actually had a small anxiety at half time. At 3-0, I remembered some Sunderland attacks and felt it was too easy. Players clearly felt similar...but weren't alert to the danger that it posed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 1 hour ago, wayne allisons tongues said: I honestly think Marlon Pack needs to be booked. Been on 9 since Boxing Day and doesn’t seem to get stuck in so much. Has his role changed in the team because of this and is this affecting how we play now? My MOTM yesterday...thought he had a fine game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne allisons tongues Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 He did play well, but start of season was getting booked for his tackles. Seems to be more a deeper role and not as much tackling. is that deliberate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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