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Major Isewater

Ashton confirms that we are not chasing promotion

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The club don't expect promotion and aren't chasing it . Which probably means that a half hearted attempt won't succeed .

At least we know where we stand.

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Ashton went on to confirm that the club are set up for the long term and are not specifically targeting promotion this season."

Reading between the lines of the interview in full it is clear that we are not prepared to jeopardise the long term future of the club but equally that we do not think that we will get promoted this season and therefore haven't taken the necessary action to really push for it . 

I applaud the stance but still feel that this is an opportunity we look like missing . 

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Seems to me Ashton, talking about transfers, has made it crystal clear that the club isn't aiming for promotion this season. If it happens it happens approach, but club is firmly basing its summer planning on remaining in this league next season 

This sets out clearly, what many of us assumed, and explains January transfer window 

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2 minutes ago, Ivorguy said:

Seems to me Ashton, talking about transfers, has made it crystal clear that the club isn't aiming for promotion this season. If it happens it happens approach, but club is firmly basing its summer planning on remaining in this league next season 

This sets out clearly, what many of us assumed, and explains January transfer window 

Was that the interview the other day? I thought he said they plan for every eventuality? 

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I think the point to take away is that the philosophy doesn’t change just because of our league position - i.e whether we were 2nd or 22nd the approach would be the same. 

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1 hour ago, BRISTOL86 said:

I think the point to take away is that the philosophy doesn’t change just because of our league position - i.e whether we were 2nd or 22nd the approach would be the same. 

 

1 hour ago, JonDolman said:

We're trying to get promoted though. Just not spending stupid money to do so. 

All of which you have to respect, although it will undoubtedly piss off some people. It is, after all, how we’ve managed to get to the top six so far, and nobody’s moaning about that.

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In my opinion this current policy is just as risky as the alternate of spending money when we are nearly there.

I keep coming back to the typical City approach to spending big, in our terms, i.e. Spending big when on the down and not when on the up.

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5 minutes ago, Ivorguy said:

In my opinion this current policy is just as risky as the alternate of spending money when we are nearly there.

I keep coming back to the typical City approach to spending big, in our terms, i.e. Spending big when on the down and not when on the up.

Bringing in hard working, success hungry players with a strong team mentality is equally as risky as signing ‘been there done that’ types on enormous wages? Really?

The latter is a massive gamble and a potentially very serious problem down the line if the immediate outcome (promotion) isn’t achieved, which is nowhere near guaranteed. 

People need a reality check if they think we’re going to beat teams like Derby and Villa to that sort of player. We’re making good progress as a club but we’re not there yet. 

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When people talk about 'Spending big' in January, with the aim of getting promoted, has it ever crossed their minds as to what budget we have, how much money is tied up in contracts, wages etc. Take FFP into account. None of us know what's in the budget, what's released at the end of the season, and what we have to play with next season.

It's not like going food shopping and buying up what you want regardless of budget.

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2 hours ago, BRISTOL86 said:

I think the point to take away is that the philosophy doesn’t change just because of our league position - i.e whether we were 2nd or 22nd the approach would be the same. 

Exactly how I interpreted it.

Also posting just an extract doesn’t show the full context. 

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It's a sensible philosophy to have and to reach the PL without buying promotion would be a huge achievement.

That said.......if/when City do get there the financial rewards are huge and even more so should you stay there for more than one season and to do that would mean strengthening the squad and to me that would mean spending serious money on better quality players.

Itll be interesting to see to the current philosophy should City reach the promised land.

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3 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said:

Exactly how I interpreted it.

Also posting just an extract doesn’t show the full context. 

I honestly don’t know how else it could be interpreted. It probably shouldn’ ( as it’s OTIB ), but I’m sometimes baffled by people’s conclusions after these video interviews. COYR 

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8 minutes ago, Ivorguy said:

In my opinion this current policy is just as risky as the alternate of spending money when we are nearly there.

I keep coming back to the typical City approach to spending big, in our terms, i.e. Spending big when on the down and not when on the up.

How is it just as risky? These signings are worth a lot more a year or so after we buy and develop them. They will make the club money. It also gets young and hungry players seeing a pathway and wanting to come here over championship rivals. Will a 10 or so million pound player definitely be better than what we have? Loads of huge championship signings have turned out to be failures. The squad Johnson has assembled is superb. I think we've sorted our recruitment out since we sacked our chief scout.

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14 minutes ago, Ivorguy said:

In my opinion this current policy is just as risky as the alternate of spending money when we are nearly there.

I keep coming back to the typical City approach to spending big, in our terms, i.e. Spending big when on the down and not when on the up.

That is a fair point I think. In the January window when we were top of L1 I was very frustrated that we didn't take the opportunity to bring in more quality. Ok so we still walked the league however we found ourselves short the following season in the Championship (not helped by a disastrous summer window) and I don't know why we didn't take the opportunity to sign some more quality when our stock was high. Same could be said about this January window; we've spent next to nothing and have barely improved the squad despite being in a great league position and being an attractive proposition for players. The two previous January windows I think we signed lots more players and spent a fair bit. Doesn't make a lot of sense.

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3 minutes ago, Simon79 said:

I honestly don’t know how else it could be interpreted. It probably shouldn’ ( as it’s OTIB ), but I’m sometimes baffled by people’s conclusions after these video interviews. COYR 

I think in this instance people are searching for a meaning that isn’t there.

He’s hardly going to say “no, if we don’t go up this season it’s a disaster. Flint, Bryan and Reid will all go. This season or nothing!”

 

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2 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

That is a fair point I think. In the January window when we were top of L1 I was very frustrated that we didn't take the opportunity to bring in more quality. Ok so we still walked the league however we found ourselves short the following season in the Championship (not helped by a disastrous summer window) and I don't know why we didn't take the opportunity to sign some more quality when our stock was high. Same could be said about this January window; we've spent next to nothing and have barely improved the squad despite being in a great league position and being an attractive proposition for players. The two previous January windows I think we signed lots more players and spent a fair bit. Doesn't make a lot of sense.

As a general rule, you don’t do much of your summer business in January. Why would you bring in any more than you need to in Jan when prices are inflated? 

The lack of quality when we stepped up from L1 was due to failings in the summer not the prior Jan. 

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4 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

That is a fair point I think. In the January window when we were top of L1 I was very frustrated that we didn't take the opportunity to bring in more quality. Ok so we still walked the league however we found ourselves short the following season in the Championship (not helped by a disastrous summer window) and I don't know why we didn't take the opportunity to sign some more quality when our stock was high. Same could be said about this January window; we've spent next to nothing and have barely improved the squad despite being in a great league position and being an attractive proposition for players. The two previous January windows I think we signed lots more players and spent a fair bit. Doesn't make a lot of sense.

The two previous windows we were rubbish. We desperately needed to strengthen or else we would be in league one. 

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13 minutes ago, Andy082005 said:

It wont be next season either when we lose the likes of Bryan and Flint

Not to mention the ones who only have 12 months left on their contract to

Who only has 12 months left? As for Dlint and Bryan, we’re always going to be a selling club if bigger come in. Just like about 88 other clubs in the league. Even the likes of Arsenal don’t keep their best players. 

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15 minutes ago, spudski said:

When people talk about 'Spending big' in January, with the aim of getting promoted, has it ever crossed their minds as to what budget we have, how much money is tied up in contracts, wages etc. Take FFP into account. None of us know what's in the budget, what's released at the end of the season, and what we have to play with next season.

It's not like going food shopping and buying up what you want regardless of budget.

No. Too many think real life is Championship Manager and we can just do what we want 100% of the time. 

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2 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said:

As a general rule, you don’t do much of your summer business in January. Why would you bring in any more than you need to in Jan when prices are inflated? 

The lack of quality when we stepped up from L1 was due to failings in the summer not the prior Jan. 

Agree. And had we made more signings in January then we might not even have got promoted. Who knows what might have happened. That league one promotion was as perfect a season as you can get as far as I'm concerned.

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2 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said:

No. Too many think real life is Championship Manager and we can just do what we want 100% of the time. 

I'm confused as to how some people think mate...you can't buy your way to promotion in this league.

We are doing it totally right...buying to be competitive in this league.

If we were to go up, you then buy in the Summer...players that are Prem quality...not Championship. It's a totally different animal. Some are suited to Premiership others for the graft of the Championship.

Promotion to the Prem is like having a baby...there is never a right time, and you can plan as much as you want...it never works out or goes to how you imagine.

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1 minute ago, spudski said:

I'm confused as to how some people think mate...you can't buy your way to promotion in this league.

We are doing it totally right...buying to be competitive in this league.

If we were to go up, you then buy in the Summer...players that are Prem quality...not Championship. It's a totally different animal. Some are suited to Premiership others for the graft of the Championship.

Promotion to the Prem is like having a baby...there is never a right time, and you can plan as much as you want...it never works out or goes to how you imagine.

Exactly. Look at Derby! They’ve been throwing millions at it for years and bottle it every year. Last season everyone talks about how they’d like to see us grow and consolidate sustainably over day 5 years, and then that all goes it the window when we have a sniff of good form and they want to see us signing players on £40k a week :laugh: 

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Some would be happier had we "gone big" in the January window and signed proven Championship players. Not me. The prospect of seeing a Jordan Rhodes type wearing the shirt, kissing the badge and taking away their weekly salary in a wheelbarrow wouldn't have guaranteed anything and only given us problems in future seasons.

We're doing things the right way imo. These things take time. :noexp:

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Just as you have fast food and the polar opposite slow food movement, so you have clubs that are in a hurry to get to/back to the PL and the rarer, slightly cranky, organic clubs that believe in doing it gradually, sustainably. 

We are the slow food football club. Moving, slowly, towards a better future.

 

 

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29 minutes ago, Andy082005 said:

It wont be next season either when we lose the likes of Bryan and Flint

Not to mention the ones who only have 12 months left on their contract to

Didn't people on here say the same about Kodjia and Tammy, yet we're doing even better without them? It depends what the replacements are like, if those 2 go we'll have a shedload of money to spend.

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I thought going big in January was not selling any of our players. I was surprised by the midfield signings as it risked breaking up the very strong link the existing players had and spirit that they had developed, though it was also clear the high tempo game had taken its toll on them. Diony was a player we have scouted for a few years so you think we would know what we were getting. But then again, we did have Tomlin on loan too and look where that ended up. January is a poor time to buy, players available are either over priced or unfit as they have not played. s we saw in our last promotion, the spirit within the group is essential, we had that, (with a great many of them being part of that last promotion) and disrupting that in January was not ideal. More so when a player arrives with the suggestion he has to be played. I personally cannot think of one signing we could have afforded or who could have boosted the side instantly. In fact I wish we had just left the squad as it was and waited for the summer. Consider all the players we signed last January and where they are now. 

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8 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said:

Exactly. Look at Derby! They’ve been throwing millions at it for years and bottle it every year. Last season everyone talks about how they’d like to see us grow and consolidate sustainably over day 5 years, and then that all goes it the window when we have a sniff of good form and they want to see us signing players on £40k a week :laugh: 

My thoughts exactly. Ashton and the Club have their head screwed on now, thank god. Not getting carried away. Remember when SL went crazy buying the likes of David James the season after we lost in the play offs. Got totally carried away with the hype.

Some fans complained that we did this, and spent on the short term. Sighting SL as making huge mistakes. He's learnt from those mistakes.

Now, when he's set a plan for the long term, some fans are expecting him to revert back to an old practice.

The bloke and Club can't win...I despair sometimes.

Who'd be an owner or manager...you can't win. Some fans have memories as short as our past strategy it seems.

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10 minutes ago, Jack Dawe said:

We are the slow food football club. Moving, slowly, towards a better future.

It's the West Country way! Seriously though, is not getting promoted a "bad thing" ?

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I posted my views on another thread, so some may have read them. 

Briefly, we don't have a squad depth to go up and would need to buy a lot in the summer; thus a new team to gel quickly at that level is difficult.

Buying potential has proved to be the right way over the last two years. It also allows those in the Academy a pathway to the first team. I reckon there are seven or eight in the Under 23's who have the ability to make it at Championship level within two seasons - Premiership impossible to gauge.

This season, we have regularly begun to pull in over 20,000, with cup income and a significantly increased revenue from hospitality. We are also probably only having to bear 50% of the stadium maintenance costs which adds more to the kitty. Another season or two of this income and support, will help us in our recruitment of players. We'll be seen as real potential for promotion, instead of hopefuls punching above their weight.

I don't have the time at my age to wait patiently but in the long term for the club,it's certainly better that spending multi millions on overpaid, nearly has beens, like we've done in the past.

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In this context, I mean adhering too rigidly to the five pillars when a little flexibility might pay dividends

As they say, even the best of plans in war don’t survive after first contact with the enemy 

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4 minutes ago, Ivorguy said:

In this context, I mean adhering too rigidly to the five pillars when a little flexibility might pay dividends

As they say, even the best of plans in war don’t survive after first contact with the enemy 

I wouldn’t say we’re inflexible. Tomlin and O’Neil proved that (and look how that turned out). I think we’re just a lot more selective than we were about the sort of personality we want in the dressing room.

Even if we entertained their sort of wages, would the likes of Jerome and Grabban be coming here for the right reasons? (The same Grabban who fled from Sunderland on false pretences when the going got tough).

Not for me.

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26 minutes ago, Ivorguy said:

In this context, I mean adhering too rigidly to the five pillars when a little flexibility might pay dividends

As they say, even the best of plans in war don’t survive after first contact with the enemy 

We're clearly flexible on our transfer policy.

Look at last winter - we signed Djuric, Hegeler, Taylor and Giefer - none of which fitted the 'young with potential' criteria

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1 hour ago, spudski said:

My thoughts exactly. Ashton and the Club have their head screwed on now, thank god. Not getting carried away. Remember when SL went crazy buying the likes of David James the season after we lost in the play offs. Got totally carried away with the hype.

Some fans complained that we did this, and spent on the short term. Sighting SL as making huge mistakes. He's learnt from those mistakes.

Now, when he's set a plan for the long term, some fans are expecting him to revert back to an old practice.

The bloke and Club can't win...I despair sometimes.

Who'd be an owner or manager...you can't win. Some fans have memories as short as our past strategy it seems.

David James wasn't bought the season after the play offs. The season after the play offs our only signings of any note were Gavin Williams and Nicky Maynard.. I still find the 2008 January and Summer windows as very frustrating opportunities missed to not kick the club considering we were massively on the up but there we go whats done is done..

My only complaint this window is not adressing the RB issue.. i also must say a slightly more proven option then Diony would have been favourable IMO. Especially when others around us strengthened in that area well.

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1 minute ago, BRISTOL86 said:

Imagine going back to a time when signing Gavin Williams was noteworthy.

I thought he was actually quite a good player! Wily and clever, had a couple of excellent games if I remember correctly.

I believe he's a contact of ours now at Merthyr for loaning them players. 

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1 minute ago, Phileas Fogg said:

I thought he was actually quite a good player! Wily and clever, had a couple of excellent games if I remember correctly.

I believe he's a contact of ours now at Merthyr for loaning them players. 

Yeah I actually thought he was reasonable to be fair! Just wasn’t a name to get people excited about another go at competing at the top end of the league!

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14 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said:

Imagine going back to a time when signing Gavin Williams was noteworthy.

Didn't he go to the sags?

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13 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said:

Yeah I actually thought he was reasonable to be fair! Just wasn’t a name to get people excited about another go at competing at the top end of the league!

Gavin Williams was actually an extremely talented footballer who'd played in the PL for West Ham. Unfortunately, he also came into the Noble/Emmanuel-Thomas/Tomlin category in terms of application and translating that talent into consistent performances. Another vastly under-achieving player who might well look back and feel that he wasted his opportunities.

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19 minutes ago, CyderInACan said:

Didn't he go to the sags?

Yep!

12 minutes ago, CliftonCliff said:

Gavin Williams was actually an extremely talented footballer who'd played in the PL for West Ham. Unfortunately, he also came into the Noble/Emmanuel-Thomas/Tomlin category in terms of application and translating that talent into consistent performances. Another vastly under-achieving player who might well look back and feel that he wasted his opportunities.

Definitley true! 

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40 minutes ago, bris red said:

David James wasn't bought the season after the play offs. The season after the play offs our only signings of any note were Gavin Williams and Nicky Maynard.. I still find the 2008 January and Summer windows as very frustrating opportunities missed to not kick the club considering we were massively on the up but there we go whats done is done..

My only complaint this window is not adressing the RB issue.. i also must say a slightly more proven option then Diony would have been favourable IMO. Especially when others around us strengthened in that area well.

With the way the Club now work, I should imagine they have targeted a RB for the long term future.

With the way contracts work, maybe January wasn't the right time, to bring a short term fix.

Maybe we have something planned in the Summer...for the long term.

Eros will be 31 next season...no spring chicken, especially with our work rate.

Vyner is being developed as a CB. Taylor Moore as a RB...will be given a chance to prove himself or moved on I imagine.

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17 minutes ago, CliftonCliff said:

Gavin Williams was actually an extremely talented footballer who'd played in the PL for West Ham. Unfortunately, he also came into the Noble/Emmanuel-Thomas/Tomlin category in terms of application and translating that talent into consistent performances. Another vastly under-achieving player who might well look back and feel that he wasted his opportunities.

he was also partial to a late night tea from Enid's on North Street! #baller 

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2 hours ago, spudski said:

I'm confused as to how some people think mate...you can't buy your way to promotion in this league.

We are doing it totally right...buying to be competitive in this league.

If we were to go up, you then buy in the Summer...players that are Prem quality...not Championship. It's a totally different animal. Some are suited to Premiership others for the graft of the Championship.

Promotion to the Prem is like having a baby...there is never a right time, and you can plan as much as you want...it never works out or goes to how you imagine.

Michael McIndoe started another thread and he commented that to play a pressing game like ours requires players not just able to play to that system but also to have tremendous fitness. He goes on to say that Man City are where they are because they have the money to not just buy the best technical players but also this with the best fitness. IIRC he also commented about our drop in form and injuries and how difficult it is for players to sustain a pressing game throughout the season because of the physical pressure it puts them under and this this is perhaps a cause of those problems.

In view of this, and the fact that we know the way that LJ wants us to be playing, perhaps the transfer activity in January ( or lack of, according to those criticising us for "not going for it") was because the players that were available did not meet either or DNA test, were not able to play within our style pf play or did not have the levels of fitness required - or two or all of those attributes? 

Also, as others have suggested, there might have been players who were on our radar, but where we would have been in competition with other clubs with much greater financial power ( e.g. Huge to West Ham) where we would have compromised our finances or caused major problems with the wage structure, as far as our existing players are concerned, which could adversely affect the team spirit built up over the last year.

Sl has been understandably criticised in the past for "throwing money at it" and how that money has been wasted , when we were relegated with a huge and unmanageable wage bill for players with little or no value and who we struggled to get off the books. We now seem to have a well organised and coherent policy right through the club, in terms of the way we want the team to play, that we are looking to bring in players with the right DNA and who will fit with our playing style and that we either develop our ow players through the academy or look to bring in young players to develop either to benefit the team's progress or where we can see for a profit that can be used to reinvest into team development.

At the worst times last season I commented that many fans seemed to want instant success from a long term plan, when criticism was being levelled at players like O'Dowda, Brownhill and Patterson, but they have been vindicated this season as has LJ, by and large and the plan seems to progressing nicely, if not yet perfectly all the time. It seems to me that SL has got it pretty well bang on with the long term strategy he put in place and that we are now seeing in operation. This season seems to have proved that his judgement was the better one when fans were calling for LJ's head last season. In view of that, it might just be that SL has weighed up what is best for the club's long term future when it came to deciding transfers during January.

If any fans think that SL doesn't want Premier League football then they must be mad. The difference is that we can all make the decisions no problem when it is not our money and the club's future at stake.  SL however does carry the responsibility for the club and spending his money and I'm pretty sure he isn't going to want to see another £20m flushed down the pan because we went for it in January but it all went tits up thereafter and we end up back where we were 3 years ago.

 

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1 hour ago, Phileas Fogg said:

We're clearly flexible on our transfer policy.

Look at last winter - we signed Djuric, Hegeler, Taylor and Giefer - none of which fitted the 'young with potential' criteria

You make my point

We signed these on the down 

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3 hours ago, spudski said:

When people talk about 'Spending big' in January, with the aim of getting promoted, has it ever crossed their minds as to what budget we have, how much money is tied up in contracts, wages etc. Take FFP into account. None of us know what's in the budget, what's released at the end of the season, and what we have to play with next season.

It's not like going food shopping and buying up what you want regardless of budget.

Seems we shopped in Aldi during the whole of January-maybe just the one visit to 'Marks 'n 'Sparks could've raised the quality just a little..?

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i think some need to take back and look at this from a different angle.

Last season, we were on our worst run of games in the club's history and survived relegation thanks to an excellent start and a decent finish to the season.

Last July, I would have been happy with a mid table finish for the 17/18 season. It was an improvement on the season before. (anything above 4th bottom in all honesty)

To be this high up and to have stayed there is a great achievement considering the other clubs in this division. 

Yes it is a shame if we do fall away but some sense of perspective is needed.

Maybe the plan was to finish upper mid table this year, then push for promotion heavily for 2018/19. There has been a slight (ever so slight) sense of over achievement this season. Especially with the Cup run.

Ultimately, this little club has done wonders this season, it would be nice to finish in the Playoff's but we must not be disappointed if we do not finish there.

Wolves and Villa will go up, Fulham will win the playoffs. There is always a team that ends the season on a high and Fulham are that side.

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22 minutes ago, Robert the bruce said:

Seems we shopped in Aldi during the whole of January-maybe just the one visit to 'Marks 'n 'Sparks could've raised the quality just a little..?

Depends what stock is available in either shop and at what price and whether available, or whether they fit our style of football.

There obviously talented footballers out there...we see them , week in, week out. But it doesn't mean they would fit with our style of play.

It's finding the right fit that counts. Look at Tomlin...he would fit certain teams, undoubted talent, but no way was he a fit to how we play. If you get my drift.

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