GrahamC Posted February 22, 2018 Report Share Posted February 22, 2018 Fulham’s number 4 last night. What a player. Seemed to be about 5ft 8 but played centrally at the back, as near to a Continental sweeper (well, he is Belgian) as anyone I’ve seen at our level. Superb on the ball, came forward and dictated play a lot and just when I was thinking can he defend, he did that phenomenal interception in the last minute. Went expecting to be impressed by Sessegnon and Cairney but he was just outstanding. Also for all their theatrics and time wasting, Fulham can play some lovely stuff. That first 20 minutes reminded me of the Man City game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted February 22, 2018 Report Share Posted February 22, 2018 That late challenge to nick the ball away from Bobby and stop him from just nodding in the winner was top class! Very composed & vital defending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman85 Posted February 22, 2018 Report Share Posted February 22, 2018 19 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Fulham’s number 4 last night. What a player. Seemed to be about 5ft 8 but played centrally at the back, as near to a Continental sweeper (well, he is Belgian) as anyone I’ve seen at our level. Superb on the ball, came forward and dictated play a lot and just when I was thinking can he defend, he did that phenomenal interception in the last minute. Went expecting to be impressed by Sessegnon and Cairney but he was just outstanding. Also for all their theatrics and time wasting, Fulham can play some lovely stuff. That first 20 minutes reminded me of the Man City game. Fulham are a very good side with a proven manager. He did a great job at Watford too. At the other end of the scale Neil Warnock is just incredible. Be interesting to compare his spend and budget to LJ. 10 points difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted February 22, 2018 Report Share Posted February 22, 2018 13 minutes ago, tinman85 said: Fulham are a very good side with a proven manager. He did a great job at Watford too. At the other end of the scale Neil Warnock is just incredible. Be interesting to compare his spend and budget to LJ. 10 points difference. What has any of that got to do with Odoi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted February 22, 2018 Report Share Posted February 22, 2018 42 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Also for all their theatrics and time wasting, Fulham can play some lovely stuff. And that was the thing I couldn't work out - with Cairney and Johansen in particular, they've got some wonderful players, and as good as anyone in the division at playing through you, but a few of them (keeper in particular, Mitrovic also) seem to want to game the ref instead, in a game they're quite capable of winning fairly. Such a shame. We obviously had quite a few Fulham on the train back last night and they're always pleasant enough as opposition fans go, but I must say I've never heard them so big headed before. This run of theirs has really gone to their heads - to a man they've written us off as unlikely to make the play offs, and think they're on for second place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipps69 Posted February 22, 2018 Report Share Posted February 22, 2018 28 minutes ago, tinman85 said: Fulham are a very good side with a proven manager. He did a great job at Watford too. At the other end of the scale Neil Warnock is just incredible. Be interesting to compare his spend and budget to LJ. 10 points difference. Who’s budget do you want to compare to LJ’s? Colin’s? He’s just spent £6m on Madine, £3m on Tomlin & signed various free transfers that while they wouldn’t of commanded a fee, the likes of Bamba & Hoillet will be on large wages (along with Tomlin). So he’s not done it on peanuts but don’t let that stand in the way of you finding another stick to try & beat LJ with. Take a look at what our first team cost to what they are probably worth now & what wages they are on & then compare it to Birmingham, Middlesbrough, Forest, Wednesday, Derby, Wolves, Leeds, Villa, Fulham & Cardiff over the last 5 years or so, to name just a few!! You seem to have this perception that we have spent hundreds of millions on buying players & another fortune on wages, we simply haven’t, we have still had an outstanding season & only look like improving further over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted February 22, 2018 Report Share Posted February 22, 2018 6 minutes ago, Tipps69 said: Who’s budget do you want to compare to LJ’s? Colin’s? He’s just spent £6m on Madine, £3m on Tomlin & signed various free transfers that while they wouldn’t of commanded a fee, the likes of Bamba & Hoillet will be on large wages (along with Tomlin). So he’s not done it on peanuts but don’t let that stand in the way of you finding another stick to try & beat LJ with. Take a look at what our first team cost to what they are probably worth now & what wages they are on & then compare it to Birmingham, Middlesbrough, Forest, Wednesday, Derby, Wolves, Leeds, Villa, Fulham & Cardiff over the last 5 years or so, to name just a few!! You seem to have this perception that we have spent hundreds of millions on buying players & another fortune on wages, we simply haven’t, we have still had an outstanding season & only look like improving further over the years. He just wants somewhere to make a Johnson dig, and as we had a positive performance the options are limited today. Logic and actual facts don’t come in to it. As for the wonderful proven Jokanovic, an almost identical record to Johnson in an almost identical number of games. Christ knows where this myth comes from that Cardiff are working on a shoestring budget, utter nonsense. This is also the guy who spent the whole of Jan moaning that we didn’t spend big and bring in a load of ‘proven’ talent. Can’t make it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro Posted February 22, 2018 Report Share Posted February 22, 2018 10 minutes ago, Tipps69 said: Who’s budget do you want to compare to LJ’s? Colin’s? He’s just spent £6m on Madine, £3m on Tomlin & signed various free transfers that while they wouldn’t of commanded a fee, the likes of Bamba & Hoillet will be on large wages (along with Tomlin). So he’s not done it on peanuts but don’t let that stand in the way of you finding another stick to try & beat LJ with. Take a look at what our first team cost to what they are probably worth now & what wages they are on & then compare it to Birmingham, Middlesbrough, Forest, Wednesday, Derby, Wolves, Leeds, Villa, Fulham & Cardiff over the last 5 years or so, to name just a few!! You seem to have this perception that we have spent hundreds of millions on buying players & another fortune on wages, we simply haven’t, we have still had an outstanding season & only look like improving further over the years. And a wage bill that’s probably 30% or £10m larger than ours is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted February 22, 2018 Report Share Posted February 22, 2018 1 hour ago, BRISTOL86 said: What has any of that got to do with Odoi? Absolutely nothing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted February 22, 2018 Report Share Posted February 22, 2018 1 hour ago, BRISTOL86 said: What has any of that got to do with Odoi? Surely you've seen a thread wander off topic before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted February 22, 2018 Report Share Posted February 22, 2018 My Fulham supporting mate describes him as a utility player. Bit like us sticking Korey Smith at centre half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted February 22, 2018 Report Share Posted February 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Robbored said: Surely you've seen a thread wander off topic before? There’s wandering off topic, and then there’s popping up in completely unrelated threads to post the same old sly digs time and time again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted February 22, 2018 Report Share Posted February 22, 2018 1 hour ago, tinman85 said: Fulham are a very good side with a proven manager. He did a great job at Watford too. At the other end of the scale Neil Warnock is just incredible. Be interesting to compare his spend and budget to LJ. 10 points difference. You mean the budget that allows him to spend 30k a week on a player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC J Posted February 22, 2018 Report Share Posted February 22, 2018 Odoi was quality on the ball but as you'd expect. He isn't a centre half he's a full back by trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted February 22, 2018 Report Share Posted February 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, BCFC J said: Odoi was quality on the ball but as you'd expect. He isn't a centre half he's a full back by trade. Can you stay on topic please. This is about Warnock and what a great man he is. He’s 93 don’t you know. Some Bristol City thugs once attacked him in cold blood and he still manages to operate on a budget of half a shilling a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlyotib Posted February 22, 2018 Report Share Posted February 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Bar BS3 said: That late challenge to nick the ball away from Bobby and stop him from just nodding in the winner was top class! Very composed & vital defending. Totally agree. His stature wasn’t normal for a defender. Seemed to small but was class all game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted February 22, 2018 Report Share Posted February 22, 2018 57 minutes ago, Tipps69 said: £3m on Tomlin If you had said £3 million on Odoi I would have said; what a steal instead I am going to say we stole the money from Cardiff. But more to the point I have seen no evidence that £3m is anywhere near what was paid or agreed even in instalments. I have heard £1 million with possible add ons; more likely to be take offs the way his career is relentlessly nosediving. But Odoi? .. now that is a player, at least on last nights showing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipps69 Posted February 22, 2018 Report Share Posted February 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, havanatopia said: If you had said £3 million on Odoi I would have said; what a steal instead I am going to say we stole the money from Cardiff. But more to the point I have seen no evidence that £3m is anywhere near what was paid or agreed even in instalments. I have heard £1 million with possible add ons; more likely to be take offs the way his career is relentlessly nosediving. But Odoi? .. now that is a player, at least on last nights showing. If we can get a million back on Tomlin, having cleared his wages off the budget, it’ll do for me, especially when you consider what damage could of been done to the squad if he was still here. It would of been worth just simply writing his cost off but anything back is a bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted February 22, 2018 Report Share Posted February 22, 2018 37 minutes ago, Robbored said: Surely you've seen a thread wander off topic before? Yes but not usually after two posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiale Posted February 22, 2018 Report Share Posted February 22, 2018 2 hours ago, GrahamC said: Fulham’s number 4 last night. What a player. Seemed to be about 5ft 8 but played centrally at the back, as near to a Continental sweeper (well, he is Belgian) as anyone I’ve seen at our level. Superb on the ball, came forward and dictated play a lot and just when I was thinking can he defend, he did that phenomenal interception in the last minute. Went expecting to be impressed by Sessegnon and Cairney but he was just outstanding. Also for all their theatrics and time wasting, Fulham can play some lovely stuff. That first 20 minutes reminded me of the Man City game. a few times during the game when we had a period of ascendancy/control one of their players went down for a 1-3 minutes completely taking the steam out of our play. I am not sure how many of the main 4 "injuries" were genuine, but most looked like soft / feigned injuries allowing them to regain composure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted February 22, 2018 Report Share Posted February 22, 2018 2 hours ago, BRISTOL86 said: What has any of that got to do with Odoi? It's called hijacking a thread to push your own agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuno Gomes Posted February 22, 2018 Report Share Posted February 22, 2018 2 hours ago, GrahamC said: Fulham’s number 4 last night. What a player. Seemed to be about 5ft 8 but played centrally at the back, as near to a Continental sweeper (well, he is Belgian) as anyone I’ve seen at our level. Superb on the ball, came forward and dictated play a lot and just when I was thinking can he defend, he did that phenomenal interception in the last minute. Went expecting to be impressed by Sessegnon and Cairney but he was just outstanding. Also for all their theatrics and time wasting, Fulham can play some lovely stuff. That first 20 minutes reminded me of the Man City game. I was going to post the very same thing; I thought he was class all night and certainly did not look to be playing out of position. Though hardly what you would expect from a central defender. Just goes to show size is not always that important (que the predictable riposte) when you consider arguably the 2 best performances last night came from Reid and Odoi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted February 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2018 6 hours ago, havanatopia said: If you had said £3 million on Odoi I would have said; what a steal instead I am going to say we stole the money from Cardiff. But more to the point I have seen no evidence that £3m is anywhere near what was paid or agreed even in instalments. I have heard £1 million with possible add ons; more likely to be take offs the way his career is relentlessly nosediving. But Odoi? .. now that is a player, at least on last nights showing. Even Warnock said it was £1.5m, which seeing as he is the biggest ******* liar around, suggests it was probably around a million more than that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted February 22, 2018 Report Share Posted February 22, 2018 12 hours ago, Olé said: And that was the thing I couldn't work out - with Cairney and Johansen in particular, they've got some wonderful players, and as good as anyone in the division at playing through you, but a few of them (keeper in particular, Mitrovic also) seem to want to game the ref instead, in a game they're quite capable of winning fairly. Such a shame. We obviously had quite a few Fulham on the train back last night and they're always pleasant enough as opposition fans go, but I must say I've never heard them so big headed before. This run of theirs has really gone to their heads - to a man they've written us off as unlikely to make the play offs, and think they're on for second place. Most great runs last no more than 10-12 games. A change in form is imminent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveF Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 22 hours ago, Tipps69 said: Who’s budget do you want to compare to LJ’s? Colin’s? He’s just spent £6m on Madine, £3m on Tomlin & signed various free transfers that while they wouldn’t of commanded a fee, the likes of Bamba & Hoillet will be on large wages (along with Tomlin). So he’s not done it on peanuts but don’t let that stand in the way of you finding another stick to try & beat LJ with. Take a look at what our first team cost to what they are probably worth now & what wages they are on & then compare it to Birmingham, Middlesbrough, Forest, Wednesday, Derby, Wolves, Leeds, Villa, Fulham & Cardiff over the last 5 years or so, to name just a few!! You seem to have this perception that we have spent hundreds of millions on buying players & another fortune on wages, we simply haven’t, we have still had an outstanding season & only look like improving further over the years. Has Tinman been caught spouting utter bollocks again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Cyril Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 21 hours ago, BRISTOL86 said: Can you stay on topic please. This is about Warnock and what a great man he is. He’s 93 don’t you know. Some Bristol City thugs once attacked him in cold blood and he still manages to operate on a budget of half a shilling a week. And don't forget the 23 legit goals against Bristol City that were never given. (Actually, it may be more than 23 but personally I have only heard him bring this up in 23 interviews) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 On 22/02/2018 at 08:18, BRISTOL86 said: What has any of that got to do with Odoi? Put on ignore - he's this season's Thatch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said: Put on ignore - he's this season's Thatch. The trouble with ignoring nonsense and not challenging it is that nonsense starts believing that no one thinks it’s nonsense. Not sure why I bother though. He has no interest in actual discussion. Just plants his seeds of BS then disappears for good from the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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