Magnússon's long throw

[Fiale]

Okay, it is a great weapon to have in your arsenal but do we over use it ? The opposition know what's coming and I feel that we need to maybe take advantage of what happened a couple of times last night... what was that you ask ? The opposition switching off and sauntering back to their box to take up defensive positions. On a couple of occasions a quick throw would have had us with 3 v 3 deep in their half/outside the box whilst Fulham players were strolling back having a fag and chat. Have we become to rely on the long throw in to much and fail to see other potential better options . Are we programmed in a rigid "mags is on, their half, long throw into the box" mentality.... maybe we should "think outside the box" sometimes 

[Rocking Red Cyril]

11 minutes ago, Fiale said:

Okay, it is a great weapon to have in your arsenal but do we over use it ? The opposition know what's coming and I feel that we need to maybe take advantage of what happened a couple of times last night... what was that you ask ? The opposition switching off and sauntering back to their box to take up defensive positions. On a couple of occasions a quick throw would have had us with 3 v 3 deep in their half/outside the box whilst Fulham players were strolling back having a fag and chat. Have we become to rely on the long throw in to much and fail to see other potential better options . Are we programmed in a rigid "mags is on, their half, long throw into the box" mentality.... maybe we should "think outside the box" sometimes 

good thinking batman  it the surprise of the long short long throw 

[Major Isewater]

11 minutes ago, Fiale said:

Okay, it is a great weapon to have in your arsenal but do we over use it ? The opposition know what's coming and I feel that we need to maybe take advantage of what happened a couple of times last night... what was that you ask ? The opposition switching off and sauntering back to their box to take up defensive positions. On a couple of occasions a quick throw would have had us with 3 v 3 deep in their half/outside the box whilst Fulham players were strolling back having a fag and chat. Have we become to rely on the long throw in to much and fail to see other potential better options . Are we programmed in a rigid "mags is on, their half, long throw into the box" mentality.... maybe we should "think outside the box" sometimes 

In fairness they did mix it up last night . 

It is a weapon that worries the opposition and the psychological affect is important. 

[Rocking Red Cyril]

3 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

In fairness they did mix it up last night . 

It is a weapon that worries the opposition and the psychological affect is important. 

not as much as a AK 47

[Red Army 75]

2 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

In fairness they did mix it up last night . 

It is a weapon that worries the opposition and the psychological affect is important. 

Ye Brownhill started taking them. When HM went off. I say launch it in there . With the height of some of our players 

[slartibartfast]

17 minutes ago, Fiale said:

Okay, it is a great weapon to have in your arsenal but do we over use it ? The opposition know what's coming 

They might know, but dealing with it is something else .

[Roger Red Hat]

4 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

In fairness they did mix it up last night . 

It is a weapon that worries the opposition and the psychological affect is important. 

Agreed. And their namby  pamby 'keeper was terrified every time it came in. I believe we used it so often deliberately for that reason.

[Major Isewater]

5 minutes ago, Rocking Red Cyril said:

not as much as a AK 47

Different game .

[Rocking Red Cyril]

3 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

Different game .

ok that a play at Cardiff then

[RedLionLad]

3 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

Different game .

Different result too

[RedLionLad]

When a throw-in is as good as a corner, get it into the box every time.

[LeeJohnsonsFlatCap]

10 minutes ago, Rocking Red Cyril said:

not as much as a AK 47

That would surprise our opposition to be fair 

[Gibbs]

It is effective. Magnússon had a throw in from well in our own half which got deflected and went out for another. He moved us 2/3 up the pitch with a single throw in. 

Considering Magnússon is a squad player I wouldn't say we are dependant on it. We are just utilising a skill ("weapon") of his when he plays.

[ZiderEyed]

1 minute ago, Gibbs said:

It is effective. Magnússon had a throw in from well in our own half which got deflected and went out for another. He moved us 2/3 up the pitch with a single throw in. 

Considering Magnússon is a squad player I wouldn't say we are dependant on it. We are just utilising a skill ("weapon") of his when he plays.

Brownhill's are coming along as well, perhaps LJ has got Hörður teaching JB. Be good to have that threat even when HM isn't playing.

[Ska Junkie]

37 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said:

Ye Brownhill started taking them. When HM went off. I say launch it in there . With the height of some of our players 

Yep, we're a big side so use it to our advantage. With Flint, Bakes, Magners, Bailey, Famara and usually Marlon, we've some serious height in our team.

34 minutes ago, Roger Red Hat said:

Agreed. And their namby  pamby 'keeper was terrified every time it came in. I believe we used it so often deliberately for that reason.

He was doing my bonce in! His moaning at the lino in the first half was pathetic. At one point, one of his own players went up in front of him, stopping him getting to a corner and he went beserk at the lino wanting a foul!

What a wnaker, thank god we didn't sign the pussy.

[wendyredredrobin]

Maggers throws are as good as a corner.  I think they are even more dangerous at times.  Plus he can get great distance, I think he could even launch one into the box from the half way line.

For the record, he had a great game yesterday and I was even disappointed to see him substituted.

Two things about him are that he shouldnt try to play football in dangerous areas, just boot it away and second, I think his challenges look a bit half hearted when compared with the rest of our back line. Definitely improving though and I am beginning to trust him more.

[BCFCadam]

2 hours ago, Fiale said:

Okay, it is a great weapon to have in your arsenal but do we over use it ? The opposition know what's coming and I feel that we need to maybe take advantage of what happened a couple of times last night... what was that you ask ? The opposition switching off and sauntering back to their box to take up defensive positions. On a couple of occasions a quick throw would have had us with 3 v 3 deep in their half/outside the box whilst Fulham players were strolling back having a fag and chat. Have we become to rely on the long throw in to much and fail to see other potential better options . Are we programmed in a rigid "mags is on, their half, long throw into the box" mentality.... maybe we should "think outside the box" sometimes 

It seems to me we use Magnussons long throw to draw penalties rather than actually attempt a goalbound header most of the time.

[Roger Red Hat]

We use them to apply pressure in the box and hopefully score.

[downendcity]

Magger's throws are like corners/free kicks. Fans would be up in arms if we had corners or free kicks around the box  and didn't get into the penalty area. We moan when out corners or crosses don;t get past the first defender, but Maggers gets all of his throws past the first, second and third defenders overtime.

As  others have commented, it is one thing for the opposition to know his throws are incoming, but another thing entirely to be able to deal with them. With a player like Flint on the end of them, they are a dangerous weapon ( albeit not quite as dangerous as an AK47!)

[Davefevs]

Seem to recall Pisano has a long throw too, so can have options on right and left without having to flog Magnússon from one side to the other.

[Super]

I have no problem using it. Bloke behind was saying have we turned into stoke city with Pulis in charge?!

[Cowshed]

31 minutes ago, downendcity said:

.ger's throws are like corners/free kicks. Fans would be up in arms if we had corners or free kicks around the box  and didn't get into the penalty area. We moan when out corners or crosses don;t get past the first defender, but Maggers gets all of his throws past the first, second and third defenders overtime.

As  others have commented, it is one thing for the opposition to know his throws are incoming, but another thing entirely to be able to deal with them. With a player like Flint on the end of them, they are a dangerous weapon ( albeit not quite as dangerous as an AK47!)

Some moan about delivery. Only around 3% of corners crossed result in goals. Balls into specific zones are harder to deliver . Bristol City have been for seasons very strong in converting corners due to Flint exceeding that 3% on his own. Hitting Flints position of maximum opportunity (pomo) will result in balls hitting the opposition frequently, but his success is abnormal and consistent. Its failing to succeed (really).

Magnussoon looks to be outperforming corners. Expect to see him launching everything.

[Davefevs]

2 hours ago, Cowshed said:

Some moan about delivery. Only around 3% of corners crossed result in goals. Balls into specific zones are harder to deliver . Bristol City have been for seasons very strong in converting corners due to Flint exceeding that 3% on his own. Hitting Flints position of maximum opportunity (pomo) will result in balls hitting the opposition frequently, but his success is abnormal and consistent. Its failing to succeed (really).

Magnussoon looks to be outperforming corners. Expect to see him launching everything.

Pomo looks like porno on my iPad font! 

[Roger Red Hat]

2 hours ago, Super said:

I have no problem using it. Bloke behind was saying have we turned into stoke city with Pulis in charge?!

Long throws and four centre halfs in the back four, you can't blame him!

[tinman85]

7 hours ago, Fiale said:

Okay, it is a great weapon to have in your arsenal but do we over use it ? The opposition know what's coming and I feel that we need to maybe take advantage of what happened a couple of times last night... what was that you ask ? The opposition switching off and sauntering back to their box to take up defensive positions. On a couple of occasions a quick throw would have had us with 3 v 3 deep in their half/outside the box whilst Fulham players were strolling back having a fag and chat. Have we become to rely on the long throw in to much and fail to see other potential better options . Are we programmed in a rigid "mags is on, their half, long throw into the box" mentality.... maybe we should "think outside the box" sometimes 

We don't create enough from open play. We love a tippy tappy sideways move like Lee's dad. But ultimately long throws help us become a threat. 

[Chivs]

2 hours ago, Cowshed said:

Some moan about delivery. Only around 3% of corners crossed result in goals. Balls into specific zones are harder to deliver . Bristol City have been for seasons very strong in converting corners due to Flint exceeding that 3% on his own. Hitting Flints position of maximum opportunity (pomo) will result in balls hitting the opposition frequently, but his success is abnormal and consistent. Its failing to succeed (really).

Magnussoon looks to be outperforming corners. Expect to see him launching everything.

What does that mean?

Also, are you saying Magnússon throw-ins are more productive than corners?  I can't recall one of his throw-ins that resulted in a goal.

[1bristolcity]

4 minutes ago, Chivs said:

What does that mean?

Also, are you saying Magnússon throw-ins are more productive than corners?  I can't recall one of his throw-ins that resulted in a goal.

1.We never score from corners.

2, Maggers long throw resulted in two goals against Leeds.

[ZiderEyed]

6 minutes ago, Chivs said:

What does that mean?

Also, are you saying Magnússon throw-ins are more productive than corners?  I can't recall one of his throw-ins that resulted in a goal.

I can think of 3 this season.

[Cowshed]

44 minutes ago, Chivs said:

What does that mean?

Also, are you saying Magnússon throw-ins are more productive than corners?  I can't recall one of his throw-ins that resulted in a goal.

City's corners may seem ineffective, they are not. 

And yes. Magnússon throw ins are outperforming norms for corners. This may level out longer term.

38 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said:

I can think of 3 this season.

 

[RedLionLad]

4 hours ago, Chivs said:

What does that mean?

Also, are you saying Magnússon throw-ins are more productive than corners?  I can't recall one of his throw-ins that resulted in a goal.

 

You wait for one and two come along at once.......and not even a week ago