archie andrews Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, Tomarse said: That’s David Nobel stylee at the very same end noble not nobel.......the king Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Red Army 75 said: Glad palace lost . Hope they go down. Rather Swansea go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: If they finish 2nd...well it'll be a bit of a mystery tbh, I still think they are nothing amazing. Whether you finish 2nd 3rd or 4th little difference. Still miles off top spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, Super said: Whether you finish 2nd 3rd or 4th little difference. Still miles off top spot. Well you do go straight into group stage of CL if 2nd don’t you? Less of a pre season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, The Gasbuster said: Rather Swansea go down. Both of them. But I think the swans will survive. Really surprised how the old Wednesday boss has done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: If they finish 2nd...well it'll be a bit of a mystery tbh, I still think they are nothing amazing. It will be because the other teams are not good enough, plain and simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman85 Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said: Glad palace lost . Hope they go down. Totally. Our rivals since 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, Tomarse said: Well you do go straight into group stage of CL if 2nd don’t you? Less of a pre season! Think all of them go straight in from next season. No qualifying anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, Super said: Whether you finish 2nd 3rd or 4th little difference. Still miles off top spot. It's a bit like Liverpool last season, Klopp needed to get into the top 4 to show progress and so does Mourinho. But I have to say they do not look like a happy bunch, Pogba and Lukaku arguing, Mourinho berating his players, Pogba looked like he didn't give a shit and by **** he is lazy, Sanchez was awful and Lingard not far behind and Shaw is still fat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 Hate all this Top 4 shit 2ND 3RD 4TH WINS NOTHING Just hope when the olympics come around The GB Team are not happy coming 4TH!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 14 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: It will be because the other teams are not good enough, plain and simple. Ok. Will explain my point a bit more.. Man City are clearly the top. Clearly the best. Liverpool and Tottenham..more dominant in their varied ways overall. Chelsea seem to have fallen off, but they were worth a point at OT IMO. In big games this year, not like Manchester U have dominated anyone... I don't really consider them part of European elite either currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meh Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 I enjoyed the game personally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williams' Penalty Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 The thing that really irritates me about Man U is the fact that with the players they have, they should 100% be going toe to toe and challenging Man City. I mean the potential quality they have in Lukaku, Pogba, Sanchez, Linguard and even Rashford is huge. Also Smalling, Valencia and de Gea. What a team. I genuinely believe Jose is managing such a talented team really poorly, and making quality players like Lukaku, Pogba and Sanchez perform worse than their ability. Such a waste of exciting footballing talent IMO, why can't he utilise some of the best attaking footballers in the game to produce some exciting football. Really frustaiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 18 minutes ago, Maltshoveller said: Hate all this Top 4 shit 2ND 3RD 4TH WINS NOTHING Yes it does..! It wins Champions League qualification. The benchmark of every big club these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, Williams' Penalty said: The thing that really irritates me about Man U is the fact that with the players they have, they should 100% be going toe to toe and challenging Man City. I mean the potential quality they have in Lukaku, Pogba, Sanchez, Linguard and even Rashford is huge. Also Smalling, Valencia and de Gea. What a team. I genuinely believe Jose is managing such a talented team really poorly, and making quality players like Lukaku, Pogba and Sanchez perform worse than their ability. Yeah, with a line up like that, they are probably the 2nd best team in the country, along with possibly Liverpool & Spurs. So they are about where they all should be..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 9 minutes ago, Williams' Penalty said: The thing that really irritates me about Man U is the fact that with the players they have, they should 100% be going toe to toe and challenging Man City. I mean the potential quality they have in Lukaku, Pogba, Sanchez, Linguard and even Rashford is huge. Also Smalling, Valencia and de Gea. What a team. I genuinely believe Jose is managing such a talented team really poorly, and making quality players like Lukaku, Pogba and Sanchez perform worse than their ability. Such a waste of exciting footballing talent IMO, why can't he utilise some of the best attaking footballers in the game to produce some exciting football. Really frustaiting. A team with Valencia and Young both over 30 at full back... Could get exposed by elite sides here and abroad IMO. However...a midfield 3 of Pogba, Herrera, Matic and a front 3, a front 3 of Martial, Rashford and Sanchez...balance, pace, skill and fluidity IMO. Lukaku scores goals, but is he elite? How well does he contribute v the best? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South-of-river Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 Good win by man u..bit of a bogey team old palace..I knew from 2 down united would come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 8 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: Yes it does..! It wins Champions League qualification. The benchmark of every big club these days. How many years on the bounce did Arsenal qualify? 20!! What trophies do they have for that NONE If England come 4th in this summers World Cup what will they get Nothing Will Germany be happy with 2nd 3rd or 4th? No chance Sport is about winning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Maesknoll Red Posted March 5, 2018 Admin Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, Maltshoveller said: How many years on the bounce did Arsenal qualify? 20!! What trophies do they have for that NONE If England come 4th in this summers World Cup what will they get Nothing Will Germany be happy with 2nd 3rd or 4th? No chance Sport used to be about winning, but now with football it’s all about the money....... Corrected that for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Maltshoveller said: How many years on the bounce did Arsenal qualify? 20!! What trophies do they have for that NONE If England come 4th in this summers World Cup what will they get Nothing Will Germany be happy with 2nd 3rd or 4th? No chance Sport is about winning What has tournament football got to do with league placings..?! 20 years of champions league qualification made Arsenal one of the richest clubs on the planet. Their “trophy” was qualifying for the champions league. Only 1 team can win a division. Other prizes are on offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williams' Penalty Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 8 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Lukaku scores goals, but is he elite? How well does he contribute v the best? I really believe Lukaku is better than he has shown this season. I think the way he was played at Everton as an out and out striker suited him much more. He is a great player and don't think he is suited to the way Jose plays him. As for performing against the best, I think he has the ability when played in the role that suits him, one of the most powerful strikers I've seen. 15 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: Yeah, with a line up like that, they are probably the 2nd best team in the country, along with possibly Liverpool & Spurs. So they are about where they all should be..! Hmmm I see your point, I guess what I was trying to say is there shouldn't be this huge gulf between Man U and Man City. Also I feel it's more frustration at the way they play and achieve their results rather than the actual results themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: What has tournament football got to do with league placings..?! 20 years of champions league qualification made Arsenal one of the richest clubs on the planet. Their “trophy” was qualifying for the champions league. Only 1 team can win a division. Other prizes are on offer. Ok i will give you its good for the clubs money wise But if you asked most of those Arsenal players What means most to you (1) Playing in the champions league or (2) Winning FA Cups I would think most will say WINNING FA cups Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 13 minutes ago, Maltshoveller said: Ok i will give you its good for the clubs money wise But if you asked most of those Arsenal players What means most to you (1) Playing in the champions league or (2) Winning FA Cups I would think most will say WINNING FA cups Yes, you are probably right. But that doesn’t mean that finishing in the top 4 is no achievement. I’m sure many FA Cup winners would jump ship for a team that’s playing champions league football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 21 minutes ago, Maltshoveller said: Ok i will give you its good for the clubs money wise But if you asked most of those Arsenal players What means most to you (1) Playing in the champions league or (2) Winning FA Cups I would think most will say WINNING FA cups You are probably right Maltshoveller. However, the reality for the top clubs these days is that you won't attract the very best players on the promise of winning FA Cups. Top, top players want to go to clubs playing in the champions league, allied to paying top salaries, and the champions league gives increased revenue and higher exposure leading to better sponsorship and advertising deals, all of which enables top clubs to afford top salaries. I grew up at a time when the magic of the FA Cup was real for fans, players and owners and the winners went into a major European Cup competition. It was also the time when only the champions played in the European Cup, which was a proper cup competition. Football is big business, and the owners are mostly hard nosed businessmen with little interest in the romance of the FA Cup as compared to the financial rewards on offer from the Champions League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said: A team with Valencia and Young both over 30 at full back... Could get exposed by elite sides here and abroad IMO. However...a midfield 3 of Pogba, Herrera, Matic and a front 3, a front 3 of Martial, Rashford and Sanchez...balance, pace, skill and fluidity IMO. Lukaku scores goals, but is he elite? How well does he contribute v the best? Martial is overrated for me. And Rashford aint world class, although he does have talent for his age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 3 hours ago, Maltshoveller said: Ok i will give you its good for the clubs money wise But if you asked most of those Arsenal players What means most to you (1) Playing in the champions league or (2) Winning FA Cups I would think most will say WINNING FA cups Easy, playing in the Champions League, what boosts your wages more? An FA Cup win or experience in the CL? You have an odd idea of footballers’ motivation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 10 hours ago, AshtonGreat said: Martial is overrated for me. And Rashford aint world class, although he does have talent for his age. Fair enough. Martial's record is reasonably good tbh...more the tactics of it all, those 3 switching and interchanging, would do better than Lukaku I reckon, more unpredictable. Depends how they want to set up, I suppose but I don't see Lukaku as really troubling the top sides in Europe- not least because the CL is a bit less tolerant of physicality than English football- actually most nations are, have been in some ways but the CL in particular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 4 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Fair enough. Martial's record is reasonably good tbh...more the tactics of it all, those 3 switching and interchanging, would do better than Lukaku I reckon, more unpredictable. Depends how they want to set up, I suppose but I don't see Lukaku as really troubling the top sides in Europe- not least because the CL is a bit less tolerant of physicality than English football- actually most nations are, have been in some ways but the CL in particular. Yeah I think Lukaku has previously been called a flat-track bully. As for Martial, I think he's good but reading some of the comments on the United forum, you'd think he was the best thing since sliced bread. I suppose they are starved of genuine flair these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 20 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said: Yeah I think Lukaku has previously been called a flat-track bully. As for Martial, I think he's good but reading some of the comments on the United forum, you'd think he was the best thing since sliced bread. I suppose they are starved of genuine flair these days. My view basically that set up, in that 4-3-3 would be more fluid and have more flair than their current. Nice problem to have anyway for them... even though we did beat them, deservedly so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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