Davefevs Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Super said: When shouldnt he celebeate scoring against us? After we decided he wasnt good enough. I actually agree with you, but I was trying to make the point that he’s not the jovial Irishman we portrayed him as, you know the type, e.g. "ah Greg, what a joker he is, he’s always on the bants", etc. I think he’s a calculated pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redmycolour Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 Well I watched it on local news tonight, if Flinty is sent off so should have GC, GC raised his arm first, Flinty just retaliated,GC went down like a sack of spuds as though he'd been hit by a bus,come on justice needs to be done, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, Redmycolour said: Well I watched it on local news tonight, if Flinty is sent off so should have GC, GC raised his arm first, Flinty just retaliated,GC went down like a sack of spuds as though he'd been hit by a bus,come on justice needs to be done, That’s pretty much what people are getting upset about. Cunningham should not have touched Flint’s head, agreed. Flint should not have struck out however much he did or didn’t connect, agreed. BUT, the fact that Cunningham cheated and conned the Ref and his assistants into getting a fellow professional ( never mind an ex team mate and personal friend) sent off, that’s what people are upset about. Am I right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chappers Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 Embarrassing. We lost, and Flint got a red card. That's life, get over it and stop the petty whinging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redmycolour Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, RedM said: That’s pretty much what people are getting upset about. Cunningham should not have touched Flint’s head, agreed. Flint should not have struck out however much he did or didn’t connect, agreed. BUT, the fact that Cunningham cheated and conned the Ref and his assistants into getting a fellow professional ( never mind an ex team mate and personal friend) sent off, that’s what people are upset about. Am I right? Why oh why are city not appealing it, GC should be charged for conning the officials and Flinty red card should be rescinded, yes he did raise his arm but? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryans Left Peg Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 26 minutes ago, Redmycolour said: Why oh why are city not appealing it, GC should be charged for conning the officials and Flinty red card should be rescinded, yes he did raise his arm but? Because it's a red card offence in the letter of the law. Appealing would be a waste of time and resources. Could argue that GC could/should've been yellow carded for being unsportsmanlike? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, Redmycolour said: Why oh why are city not appealing it, GC should be charged for conning the officials and Flinty red card should be rescinded, yes he did raise his arm but? If city did appeal he should get an extra game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, Bryans Left Peg said: Because it's a red card offence in the letter of the law. Appealing would be a time and resources. Could argue that GC could/should've been yellow carded for being unsportsmanlike? Funny thing is that if it was the other way round same people would be saying it is a blatant red card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryans Left Peg Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 17 minutes ago, Super said: Funny thing is that if it was the other way round same people would be saying it is a blatant red card. Agreed, because it is. Zero complaints from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 I guess the Ref has to write his report, do the clubs see a copy of that? But he’s just going to say he thought it was a red and not mention Cunninghams part in this isn’t he. After all he won’t admit he’s been conned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EstoniaTallinnRed Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 49 minutes ago, RedM said: That’s pretty much what people are getting upset about. Cunningham should not have touched Flint’s head, agreed. Flint should not have struck out however much he did or didn’t connect, agreed. BUT, the fact that Cunningham cheated and conned the Ref and his assistants into getting a fellow professional ( never mind an ex team mate and personal friend) sent off, that’s what people are upset about. Am I right? Will Flint still be his personal friend after that, would you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, EstoniaTallinnRed said: Will Flint still be his personal friend after that, would you? No. I wouldn’t want to socialise with him after that. Will be interesting to see if the old boys do meet up as they have done for the last two or three years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 10 minutes ago, RedM said: I guess the Ref has to write his report, do the clubs see a copy of that? But he’s just going to say he thought it was a red and not mention Cunninghams part in this isn’t he. After all he won’t admit he’s been conned. Thats cause he wasnt conned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Super said: Thats cause he wasnt conned! He was as far as the contact was grossly exaggerated, that said I know the law says intent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, RedM said: He was as far as the contact was grossly exaggerated, that said I know the law says intent. Whether it was or not he was still going to get a red card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 12 hours ago, spudski said: You raise your hand to a players head and grab it...surely you are more guilty than the player retaliating and pushing his arm away? Surely the Club has to defend this and make a case of it? 100% agree. Cant emphasize that enough. Cunningham's action was pre-meditated designed to wind up. Flint was a natural reaction many normal people would make if that was done in a moment of disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 Was all a bit Ronaldo and Rooney to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eardun Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 I’m with those above who say this is no different to the Wright ban for deceiving the ref. I think GC dived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 Well it’s clear what is allowed and what isn’t now in a match, a precedent has been set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 On 07/03/2018 at 10:14, RedM said: I don’t really know what Cunningham gained from the sending off, so late in the game. Yes we were close to getting back to a draw but why take the chance of getting into trouble yourself. And this was a former team mate who he goes on holiday with at least once a year, every year since leaving, so a mate too. It must be really important to him, and Preston, that we are lessened as rivals. Flint is important to us no doubt about it and missing him will be a blow. Of course I agree that Flint should not have retaliated but he does seem to take the law into his own hands (literally) at times, and has got away with shoving players several times, blatantly into the goal net at least once recently. Unfortunately he got little protection from the Ref last night and frustration boiled over. Cunningham knew how to push his buttons, but at great risk to himself. He has only just got back from injury, and is captain of a promotion challenging team. Suppose that ‘elbow’ had connected, he could have faced more weeks out than Flint. Madness on both parts. We’re clearly a promotion rival to Preston. They will know the importance of flint to us in both boxes, the opportunity to get him sent off was available and Cunningham took it. Is it right, no. Do clubs / players do it , yes. Preston will know will miss flint for the games he’s banned for, they took three points off us , and we’ve lost an important player for three games. A pretty good night for Preston ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 On 07/03/2018 at 18:32, Davefevs said: I know that a lot on here have said that Greg seemed the jovial Irishman in his time here, but maybe we had our rise tinted specs on because he was our player? Any thoughts on whether he’s pulled Flint’s hair, or did it a more rough way than it appeared? No disrespect Dave, I usually agree with the majority of your stuff on here, but a rugby player would laugh his head off at that...Greg ruffled Aden’s hair...Aden should have ignored it and not reacted at all...so what if he ‘pulled his hair’? Or ruffled it in a ‘rough’ way?! Either way, it wouldn’t have hurt Aden... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: No disrespect Dave, I usually agree with the majority of your stuff on here, but a rugby player would laugh his head off at that...Greg ruffled Aden’s hair...Aden should have ignored it and not reacted at all...so what if he ‘pulled his hair’? Or ruffled it in a ‘rough’ way?! Either way, it wouldn’t have hurt Aden... It won’t have been one isolated incident....I didn’t say "hurt", but it was more than likely the straw that broke the camel’s back. You have someone constantly needling you, sly little things when the referee isn’t looking. Of course he shouldn’t react, but I can understand why he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 12 minutes ago, Davefevs said: It won’t have been one isolated incident....I didn’t say "hurt", but it was more than likely the straw that broke the camel’s back. You have someone constantly needling you, sly little things when the referee isn’t looking. Of course he shouldn’t react, but I can understand why he did. No, you didn’t say ‘hurt’ - I said ‘hurt’ because your post implied that if GC’s ruffling of Aden’s hair was ‘rough’ then his reaction was almost justified. Was GC constantly needling Aden throughout the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 1 minute ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Was GC constantly needling Aden throughout the game? I suspect so....it’s what he does. Seen him on TV games a couple of times, and he’s very ‘clever’ about what he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Red Cyril Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 Would it not be a good idea for the players to receive coaching/training from a sports physiologist on dealing with these explosive moments in an anger type management typecthing to control the anger. Which would avoid silly red cards for retaliation ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 4 hours ago, Rocking Red Cyril said: Would it not be a good idea for the players to receive coaching/training from a sports physiologist on dealing with these explosive moments in an anger type management typecthing to control the anger. Which would avoid silly red cards for retaliation ? Good luck with that. I've been attending anger management for years. Sometimes it works, sometimes it don't. Like Rag n Bone Man says "I'm only human after all" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warwickshire Red Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 No news on any FA review and ban so looks like it isn't going to happen. Very lucky IMO. With that acting should be in Hollywood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dastardly and Muttley Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, Warwickshire Red said: No news on any FA review and ban so looks like it isn't going to happen. Very lucky IMO. With that acting should be in Hollywood. I think that if the FA were going to call it simulation and deceiving officials, they’d have to rescind Flint’s red card. No way that they were going to do that unfortunately, so Cunningham was always going to get away with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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